locked Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
C J Wyatt
When the Vestibule Limited was wrecked at Bluff City, Tennessee in October 1894, two coaches were destroyed. Southern Railway ordered two coaches from Pullman on an expedited basis using spec's from Pullman. These coaches became Nos. 1200-1201. Southern liked the coaches so much that they sent No. 1200 to DC and had a draftsman make drawings of the car to be to be used in future requests for bids. See attached memo's. This drawing would be of No. 1200. The design with minor modifications became Southern's standard coach until 1901 when the coach design was lengthen from 57' to 66' over end sills.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020, 03:44:41 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <email@example.com> wrote:
Another good subject for research!
The only thing I can say for sure about “smoking rooms” is that they were only in the “gents” end of the car during this time period. I expect that corresponded to the social mores of the time.
The filename does not say “floor plan” so I did not find/post it earlier. I’ve attached a much reduced size and resolution scan of drawing 2-A-17 dated April 17, 1895 of a standard 57’ coach that includes a floor plan.
The drawing may (!) be in the same category I mentioned earlier but in any case, it is a “work of art” on its own. (Note: it is a very early example of a car with a closed (Beauhop?) vestibule.)
On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Joel Walker <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Question about the P and B car. I noticed in the diagram that there is a smoking room. If the car was also serving as 2nd class accommodations, was smoking only allowed in the smoking room? Twenty years prior, in an 1879 Civil Rights case on the Memphis and Charleston Railroad (Robinson v. M & C RR), the second-class car is referred to as the 'smoking car' which would imply the passengers were emitting about as much smoke as the engine was (an exaggeration). Any idea on what the policy on smoking was in 1900?
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 9:40 AM George Eichelberger <email@example.com> wrote: