Tim, thanks for chiming in.
Ike, thanks for the very helpful pic and technical data.
My interest in the car, as you might already have guessed, is to
draw it up in 3D CAD and then make a laser-cut styrene model in
1:20.3 scale. Of course my CAD work could be the basis for a model
in any scale since I always drawing things in 1:1 and then scale
the relevant parts down.
On 6/24/2022 11:25 AM, George
PS Here’s a photo of Southern (gondola) 117644, caption was on
Note the flat car was a WrightTrak kit…. Same flat
as under the transfer cab kit. A series of them would make a
great Southern welded rail train.
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[SouthernRailway] SR Flat Car at TVRM
Date: June 24, 2022 at
11:19:58 AM EDT
Without a good broadside photo, I cannot
compare it to the General Arrangement drawings SF-1023
(Sou 115000-115249 and 118000-118749), SF-11118 (Sou
116600-116849 & 118000-118749). Those drawings are
so accurate, if there is even a small difference in
rivet patterns we can tell which series it is from.
(Note these drawings are for both flats or gons.
Gondolas of the 1920s were sometimes simply wooden
sides on flat cars. Over time, sides were removed from
the gons so most finished out their service as flat
Unless TVRM can find a road number
someplace on the car, it would be impossible to
determine exactly what the car’s revenue or MoW road
number was. Unless we know where the prior owner got
the car, it is possible it came from one of the
industries around Birmingham, ex Southern or something
else with replacement Southern trucks. With so many SR
cars scrapped in B’ham, trucks would have been easy to
Sou 117644 is still configured as a
low-side gondola on the ACL at Bradenton, FL in
1953. It was one of five hundred built at Lenoir in
1928 under Southern Specification F-97.
N.C.Miller Jr. Photo Neg A486 Bradenton,
Collection of GP Eichelberger
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when we got the car out of the parting lot
in Irondale all previous paint markings were
gone. We will look more closely to see if
the number is punched into the metal
somewhere but I'm not optimistic.
On Friday, June 24, 2022,
10:31:10 AM EDT, Dave Queener <dave@...
There is an approximately 40' or 42'
steel flat car at TVRM with fishbelly
center and side sills riding on Vulcan
trucks that are clearly marked as
having been cast for or by the
Southern. Assuming then that it is a
Southern flat car, does anyone know
what number series, class, or build
date it might be a part of? Here's a
few pics taken yesterday:
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