Locked Re: [bbfcl] Southern Tobacco Hogshead cars

George Eichelberger

Yes to “1965”.

The “problem” with these cars is they were not a single design, blt. date or carbuilder. (Someone had plans to produce an HO model. SRHA provided the drawings, then pffft, nada. It makes it difficult for us to do research for mfgr’s. with no track record or folks we do not know.)

Here’s a 1960s freight car diagram book page* for the car in Tim’s photo, 9799. It was built as Southern’s Coster Shop in Knoxville as a “prototype”. Production cars built later by P-S were similar but had several variations. 

*Southern never really built rolling stock. This was one of D.W. Brosnans’ effort to attract new business. I don’t know how often they were seen off the Southern or not in VA and NC (“plate ??”).

To my knowledge, their last use was for carrying auto tires…


*Would anyone be interested if SRHA published the diagram book? We have sold around 500 copies of the 1970s version in a three Volume set. (They may still be available from SRHA?)

1960s Freight Car Diagram Book 32-F-93 Pg 47.jpeg

On Mar 20, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

The first cars definitely existed in 1961, equipped with roll-up doors ! I'm not sure if later cars were built new
with plug doors, or whether they were just rebuilt with plug doors. But I do know that plug door cars and
roll up door cars were both in service by 1965. No doubt an equipment register, or IKE, will have more
information. :-)

In HO scale, Ambroid produced a kit for the car. I know because my Dad built one. These cars continued
in service for a very long time!

On 3/20/2023 9:26 AM, Bob Weston via groups.io wrote:
When did Southern first build these cars? Photo by Karl Geffchen, Allentown, Pa. 07-03-00 from George Ellwood's fallen flags website. Bob Weston


sou_9799 84ft_SD_box hogsheads-load brand-new-paint 9-1961.jpeg

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