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I happen to have the attached photo of #665 with painted black smooth roof
and ‘Fort McPherson’ on the nameplate. Enjoy!
Ed Locklin at mp367.
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Enoree River
been searching my files to find a photo of 665 after repairs were made but must
not have one. I’m beginning to believe that you are correct in that Southern
applied the smooth roof but I have always thought differently. I recall the car
coming into Jacksonville in about 1965 on the Ponce de Leon with a smooth roof
and with Central of Georgia still on the letter board.
main@SouthernRailway.groups.io [mailto:main@SouthernRailway.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Kevin Centers
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 8:12
[SouthernRailway] Enoree River
You wouldn’t happen to have a picture of the car post wreck
but prior to going to Southern? I don’t, but would love to see it.
I question that Budd applied the smooth roof, primarily
because they would still have the tooling set up to remove the damaged portions
of the original roof and replace them with fluted material. In looking at
some of the repairs done on the car by Budd, they pretty well stuck to their
going practice at the time-which meant fluted roofs all the way through the
Amfleet cars. Not saying it didn’t happen, but my bet is Southern did it since
other Budds in the fleet received the same treatment.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 8:01 PM,
Ed Mims <wemims@...> wrote:
CofGa car 665 (formerly Fort McPherson) was wrecked and repaired by Budd. That
is why it has a smooth stainless steel roof. See
steel does not corrode but it is not totally indestructible. Stainless steel
will fatigue in service and fracture (crack). Once this begins it is
irreversible. The pre-war cars had this problem with the early design of
center sills. Later designs were heavier and stayed in regular service for
many years. Post war cars were much sturdier and some remain in service today
(example: VIA RAIL THE CANADIAN).
[mailto:main@SouthernRailway.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway]
Budds were built with fluted roofs. Being of all stainless
construction, the cars were-and in many cases still are-practically
indestructible. Unfortunately they leak. Sometimes a little silicon will do
the trick, but some are a little worse. Southern fixed the issue by applying
smooth stainless over the flutes. SOU 665 (former CofGa 665) at Southern
Appalachia Ry Museum is a good example of this. Built by Budd with a fluted
roof with smooth panels applied by Southern.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 7:02 PM,
Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...>
Alaska RR got several of the SR coaches (one CofG)
after Amtrak took over the Crescent (all Budd built). Roofs
varied among the lot. Some fluted roofs, some smooth (were these
replacement roofs?). Some natural metal, some black.
Photos can be found here: http://www.alaskarails.org/fp/passenger/passenger-roster-retired.html
Scroll down to the 5200 group.
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