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Re: ACL O 15 photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Paul


On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:57 PM Paul Schmidt <pschmidt3013@...> wrote:
Well done, Fenton!
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Re: ACL O 15 photos

Paul Schmidt
 

Well done, Fenton!
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Sequim WA


Re: ACL O 15 photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Donnie


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:20 PM Donnie Dixon <rf4cnam@...> wrote:

Beautiful work Fenton. Absolutely gorgeous

Donnie

 



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Re: ACL O 15 photos

George Eichelberger
 

Shouldn't this topic be on "ModelingTheSouthern.io"?

Ike


Re: ACL O 15 photos

Donnie Dixon
 

Beautiful work Fenton. Absolutely gorgeous

Donnie

 


Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

Curtis Brookshire
 

re, the lettering difference: The 1941 Tennessean and Southerner equipment came from Pullman. Maybe Budd submitted a different font due to competition with Pullman? I've read somewhere that there was some bad blood between the manufacturers that came from Pullman shutting Budd out of building streamlined sleepers when the ATSF ordered cars for the Super Chief in the 1930s.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

Gino:

Thanks for the info!

As a dedicated “Mac” user, I typically am not aware of issues like this…the Mac simply “handles” this stuff.

Ike

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Gino Damen <g.damen@quarter105.nl> wrote:

Hi,

It is the type of attachment who is the problem. On the average PC TIFF images can be viewed. On a lot of mobile device the included imageviewer can not parse TIFF files.

Even the fact that you currently attached a file with the extension .JPEG can cause problems because the extension .JPEG isn't always registered correctly.

The safest option is always post images saved in JPEG-format and with the extension JPG (not JPEG although the file self is exactly the same).

Greetings,

Gino Damen


Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

Gino Damen
 

Hi,

It is the type of attachment who is the problem. On the average PC TIFF images can be viewed. On a lot of mobile device the included imageviewer can not parse TIFF files.

Even the fact that you currently attached a file with the extension .JPEG can cause problems because the extension .JPEG isn't always registered correctly.

The safest option is always post images saved in JPEG-format and with the extension JPG (not JPEG although the file self is exactly the same).

Greetings,

Gino Damen

20 okt. 2021 15:12:41 George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...>:

Arrgh! Some folks can see them, others cannot…here’s an attached jpeg.

Ike



On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, aramsay18 <aramsay37@...> wrote:

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
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-Evan Whatley





Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

Arrgh! Some folks can see them, others cannot…here’s an attached jpeg.

Ike



On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, aramsay18 <aramsay37@...> wrote:

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
--
-Evan Whatley





Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

aramsay18
 

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
--
-Evan Whatley


Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
--
-Evan Whatley


Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

This past SRHA archives work session at TVRM was very productive. The new scanner is in service and producing excellent scans. (One Pullman letter board drawing was 26 ft long!)

As is typical, we always find “surprises”. Here is an example, Budd drawing B74-07760 Exterior Signs and Letter boards 7-13-1948…(Notice anything unusual about the lettering?)

Ike




Re: ACL O 15 photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Barry
Fenton 


On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Barry Kimble <southernry@...> wrote:


Fenton,
Well done!
Barry

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

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Re: ACL O 15 photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Gipson much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:06 PM, gipson.philip via groups.io <gipson.philip@...> wrote:

Very nice!


On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

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Re: ACL O 15 photos

Barry Kimble
 

Fenton,
Well done!
Barry

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos


Re: ACL O 15 photos

gipson.philip
 

Very nice!


On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

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Re: ACL O 15 photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Love it , Thanks so much
Fenton

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 3:43 PM Robert Graham <rgraham2@...> wrote:
Nice work, Fenton. Just to add to your collection, here is a photo I made of the very similar ACL class O-17 ventilated boxcar 18440 in service at the Wilmington NC freight station (now the Wilmington RR Museum) in July 1962. It was one of the first freight car photos I made. It shows the circa 1950 freight car lettering and the use of the Prismo stripes at the bottom of the car sides.

Bob Graham

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From: "O Fenton Wells"
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Sent: Tuesday October 19 2021 3:02:07PM
Subject: [SouthernRailway] ACL O 15 photos

Sorry I forgot to add the photos



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Re: ACL O 15 photos

Robert Graham
 

Nice work, Fenton. Just to add to your collection, here is a photo I made of the very similar ACL class O-17 ventilated boxcar 18440 in service at the Wilmington NC freight station (now the Wilmington RR Museum) in July 1962. It was one of the first freight car photos I made. It shows the circa 1950 freight car lettering and the use of the Prismo stripes at the bottom of the car sides.

Bob Graham

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From: "O Fenton Wells"
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday October 19 2021 3:02:07PM
Subject: [SouthernRailway] ACL O 15 photos

Sorry I forgot to add the photos


ACL O 15 photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Sorry I forgot to add the photos


Westerfield ACL O 15

O Fenton Wells
 

This is a Westerfield O 15.  It is the modern kit but I had to use the '40's decals as my railroad time ends in 1953.  It has been built pretty much as the directions outlined and HyTech air hoses and TCP ALC 40's era paint was used.  Kadee couplers and wheel sets as well.
This will help us during the peach season in the Carolinas.  I did weather the car but forgot to add decal chalk marks so had to do the white pencil routine.
Fenton

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