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Re: Archives Work

George Eichelberger
 

I should be there by 9:45. C U then…

Ike

On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:17 PM, mike turner <michaellturner@...> wrote:

Jim, Ike,

Given no objections, I plan on being at the archives Thu AM.

The hunt for the other 100t aggregate hopper NCP folders is my primary goal. If the hunt is unsuccessful on Thu, it will be extended to Fri.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35

Archives Work

mike turner
 

Jim, Ike,

Given no objections, I plan on being at the archives Thu AM.

The hunt for the other 100t aggregate hopper NCP folders is my primary goal. If the hunt is unsuccessful on Thu, it will be extended to Fri.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35

moderated Saluda grade timing circuits

pschmidt3013@...
 

I'm looking for assistance and information on the Saluda grade timing circuit -- specifically imI searching for technical information that I'm hoping to develop into an article for "Ties," the SRHA magazine. 

I'm a signal technician for a major Class 1, so signalese is no problem for me to understand. Anyone with track charts, photos, old plans of the signalling system at Pearson's Gate, people I could interview, etc., would be of great help.

Thanks, and keep that green light shining!
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA

moderated Archives Work Session This Weekend

Jim Thurston
 

Just a reminder that there will be an Archives Work Session this weekend, Fri & Sat, 21-22 June

Jim Thurston

moderated Re: Southern and Southwestern Railway Club

Charles Harris
 

Hi
on
The article says at  :   between 2pm and 5pm    on   Track 13 at the  Terminal Station.

Date of display was       Thursday March 21  1946

No need to spend your time on this as you have heaps to do.

Thankyou

Charles Harris

moderated Re: Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

O Fenton Wells
 

JC, totally understand take your time and enjoy your day.  When you get to it
Happy Fathers Day
Fenton

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 7:14 PM charliecatsrr via Groups.Io <charliecatsrr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Fenton,
With my kids & grandkids celebrating father’s day, I was not able to send you the files I had promised.  I’ll send them tomorrow.  
J. C. 

On Sunday, June 16, 2019, 5:54:01 PM EDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Thanks big D


On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:37 PM, charliecatsrr via Groups.Io <charliecatsrr@...> wrote:

Try No 2


On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 10:43:50 PM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:


Fenton,

I uploaded files to the resin car list files section for ORERs from years 1930, 35, 45, 50, and 55.  The total size was close to 20MB (some are larger than others).

If anyone else needs these, let me know and I'll upload them here (for a short while since they take up too much space to leave them).

Dave

Thursday, June 13, 2019, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:


If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC
<ORER 1937 003.jpg>



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...

moderated Re: Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

charliecatsrr
 

Fenton,
With my kids & grandkids celebrating father’s day, I was not able to send you the files I had promised.  I’ll send them tomorrow.  
J. C. 

On Sunday, June 16, 2019, 5:54:01 PM EDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Thanks big D


On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:37 PM, charliecatsrr via Groups.Io <charliecatsrr@...> wrote:

Try No 2


On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 10:43:50 PM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:


Fenton,

I uploaded files to the resin car list files section for ORERs from years 1930, 35, 45, 50, and 55.  The total size was close to 20MB (some are larger than others).

If anyone else needs these, let me know and I'll upload them here (for a short while since they take up too much space to leave them).

Dave

Thursday, June 13, 2019, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:


If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC
<ORER 1937 003.jpg>

moderated Re: Southern and Southwestern Railway Club

George Eichelberger
 

Charles:

Can you give me an approximate date the unit was in Atlanta? That would narrow the number of Presidents files to look for this weekend.

If the loco got from Ingalls in Pascagola to Atlanta on the L&N (logical) the chances of finding something on it in the records are small unless they tried to sell the model to the Southern. Marvin Black accumulated a lot of builders sales info…another place to look.

Ike


Did the newspaper article specifically say which depot, Terminal or Union station?  

On Jun 16, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Charles Harris <railroads@...> wrote:

Hi George

Thanks for your response.  As much as I would like to make it to the work session, I cannot, live in New Zealand!
If you happen to come across any reference to the Ingalls that would be great.  The only ref to Southern I have is the newspaper article, other comments online say it was 'demonstrated' to Southern, but the exhibition may be what they were referring to.
Thanks

Charlie Harris

moderated Re: Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks big D


On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:37 PM, charliecatsrr via Groups.Io <charliecatsrr@...> wrote:

Try No 2


On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 10:43:50 PM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:


Fenton,

I uploaded files to the resin car list files section for ORERs from years 1930, 35, 45, 50, and 55.  The total size was close to 20MB (some are larger than others).

If anyone else needs these, let me know and I'll upload them here (for a short while since they take up too much space to leave them).

Dave

Thursday, June 13, 2019, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:


If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC
<ORER 1937 003.jpg>

moderated Re: Southern and Southwestern Railway Club

Charles Harris
 

Hi George

Thanks for your response.  As much as I would like to make it to the work session, I cannot, live in New Zealand!
If you happen to come across any reference to the Ingalls that would be great.  The only ref to Southern I have is the newspaper article, other comments online say it was 'demonstrated' to Southern, but the exhibition may be what they were referring to.
Thanks

Charlie Harris

moderated Re: Southern and Southwestern Railway Club

George Eichelberger
 

Charles:

While I do not know of anything in the SRHA archives on the Ingalls locomotive, there are thousands of files in the collection, so I can say “maybe”. There is an archives work session next weekend. You are welcome to come and check the Presidents’ files and photos for something on the loco. There could also be something in the (large) Marvin Black diesel data collection.

Do you have specific information about the engine operating on the Southern?

Ike

On Jun 16, 2019, at 3:33 AM, Charles Harris <railroads@...> wrote:

In the Atlanta Constitution newspaper for Thursday 21 March 1946, page 14, there was an article headed 'Terminal' Host To First Diesel Built In The South.   This outlined an exhibition being held that day for the Ingalls 4-S locomotive.

The exhibition to  Seaboard, L&N, GM&O, and Southern Railroads, was arranged by Southern and Southwestern Railway Club.  This club still in existence, but unable to help with info for me.

I understand that Southern Railway with others were members of this club.

Does Southern Railway have in your archives have information about above exhibition, and maybe an evaluation report.

The Railway Club issued regular 'Proceedings of Southern and Southwestern Railway Club' and a regular magazine.  Any copies in your archives ?, especially for March 1946 !
Any help much appreciated.
Thankyou
 

moderated Southern and Southwestern Railway Club

Charles Harris
 

In the Atlanta Constitution newspaper for Thursday 21 March 1946, page 14, there was an article headed 'Terminal' Host To First Diesel Built In The South.   This outlined an exhibition being held that day for the Ingalls 4-S locomotive.

The exhibition to  Seaboard, L&N, GM&O, and Southern Railroads, was arranged by Southern and Southwestern Railway Club.  This club still in existence, but unable to help with info for me.

I understand that Southern Railway with others were members of this club.

Does Southern Railway have in your archives have information about above exhibition, and maybe an evaluation report.

The Railway Club issued regular 'Proceedings of Southern and Southwestern Railway Club' and a regular magazine.  Any copies in your archives ?, especially for March 1946 !
Any help much appreciated.
Thankyou
 

moderated Re: Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

charliecatsrr
 

Try No 2


On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 10:43:50 PM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:


Fenton,

I uploaded files to the resin car list files section for ORERs from years 1930, 35, 45, 50, and 55.  The total size was close to 20MB (some are larger than others).

If anyone else needs these, let me know and I'll upload them here (for a short while since they take up too much space to leave them).

Dave

Thursday, June 13, 2019, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:


If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC

moderated Re: Wonderful Day

rwbrv4
 

OK should see you Thursday AM maybe 10ish?
RB


-----Original Message-----
From: George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2019 8:54 am
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Wonderful Day

I’ll head up to Chatt Thursday AM. I agree there is too much noise on Saturday usually but since this is so close to the opening week end, I don’t expect many people. I’m not going to put out a reminder note.

Ike


On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:57 AM, rwbrv4 via Groups.Io <Rwbrv4@...> wrote:

I had a wonderful day yesterday.  Diagnosed with an abdominal hernia that will require surgery.  Yeaaaaah.

What day are you heading up to Chatt this next week's work session?  If the doctor allows, I'm considering going up Thursday morning early and returning Friday night around 6 PM.  I just don't get anything done on those Saturdays.  Too much hullabaloo for me to concentrate on anything, ( I guess one of my shortcomings).  
Rick

moderated Southern Railway Presidents' Files in the SRHA Archives - Partial Draft 6-14-2019

George Eichelberger
 

Although there is much work to be done on the complete set (there is one file per year of the Southern 1894-1982), here is a draft version of two Southern Railway Presidents' Files finding aids. They are both from the Sam Spencer administration. As this is only an example, it will be on-line here for a short time. The entire set will be moved to a server for permanent access when that is set up. It can be searched as a PDF but will eventually reside on a data base for easier searches.

In addition to a continuing clean up, we want to review every archives box and file to "QC" the contents, to add missing files and to expand the descriptions of each. There are approx 17,000 Presidents' files so the work to be done will take some time to complete. We are fortunate that the first version is very useful to do research now, and that we can build on it as resources permit.

While SRHA archives volunteers will work on the project as time permits, we will attempt to obtain donations or grants that would allow us to pay students from local schools to help. Anyone reading this is certainly welcome to help, with donations or labor.

Ike

moderated Re: Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Fenton,

I uploaded files to the resin car list files section for ORERs from years 1930, 35, 45, 50, and 55.  The total size was close to 20MB (some are larger than others).

If anyone else needs these, let me know and I'll upload them here (for a short while since they take up too much space to leave them).

Dave

Thursday, June 13, 2019, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:


If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC

moderated derrick

mike turner
 

https://exploreuk.uky.edu/catalog/xt7n8p5v9x1t_17_1?q=train&offset=300&per_page=100

Interesting photo of a derrick with a cover.

--
Mike Turner
MP-Z35

moderated Re: Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

charliecatsrr
 

Fenton, 
I should be able to send these to you tomorrow or Saturday.  
J. C. Paschal

On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 11:39:32 AM EDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton

moderated Need SR Freight Car data from 1937 and 1940 ORER

O Fenton Wells
 

If anybody has copies of these 1937 and 1940 ORER for SR Freight, could you please scan and send them to me.  Thanking all in advance
Fenton

moderated Re: TT codes

Jim King
 

Mike,

 

The line to Cherokee ran from Ela on the Southern … it was called the Appalachian Ry.  Remnants of the bridge piers/abutments where the line crossed the river near Ela are, supposedly, still visible.  Long-time friend and expert on local logging ops, Jerry Ledford, is finishing the 5th book in a series covering logging companies in this area and eastern TN.  The previous books include a tremendous amount of on-the-ground research along with mostly previously unpublished photos and maps showing how diverse these lines were.  The 5th book, soon to be printed, has a section on the Appalachian Ry with a detailed map drawn by ET&WNCHS authority, Chris Ford.  Southern was the primary outlet for logging products.  He’s also including extensive coverage of Champion’s ops between Canton and Sunburst plus other lines in their vast network.

 

I don’t know if Jerry is on this list.  You can contact him at gledford55@... re: purchasing previous and upcoming books.  Well worth having in your library if you’re even remotely interested rail ops in western NC.

 

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Roderick
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:18 PM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io; srymurphybranch@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] TT codes

 

Gordon: 

 

Good evening how are you doing? Jim King has sparked interest in the Branch again. If you have a copy of the TT I would appreciate a copy of it, I sent Jim a copy of the 1946 one if your copy is prior to that date I would like to have a copy of it. As for other interesting things I have found out about the branch in the 1920's there was a 3' gauge railroad that ran from Bryson to Alarka it was 10 miles long hauling logs to be milled and the was a line that ran somewhere between Whitter and Governors Island to Cherokee and past it was about 15 miles long.

 

Mike

 


From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> on behalf of milepost 131 <mp131.ghandrews@...>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 18:05
To:
main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] TT codes

 

I found a copy of a SRY TT that Marvin Black copied and  sent me probably early 2000's.

It does not mention the year but as I recall Marvin stated it was in the 1940's

It has a few codes:

I can probably scan it into a PDF if anyone is interested.
A few codes include:
G Coaling station  (chute bin,platform tipple)
H stock pen
K turntable
P hospital at that location
R engines are coaled from cars at the location
Y "Y" track at location

E water
D passenger trains stop at flag


Gordon Andrews