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Robert Richardson
 

Here is a make up of a local train from a conductors cars handled book on the Knoxville Division on a train between Knoxville and Bristol on 10/24/41.

 

 

Eng SR  600

SR         107720   H    Coal

CG         7812      B     Fertz.

ATSF    123535  “       “

CG        7067      “       “

CG        58493    “       “

SP         84208    “       Lbr

TCX      8569      T     Gas

ACL      92994    G      ??

PLE      83677    B      Mty

TNO      53757    “       Slag ??

CCCStL 57647    “         “

SR          149203  “       Cedar Logs

Cab SR   X2777      

 

Robert Richardson

Henderson, NC

MP S114.5

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stuart Thayer via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules

 

Jason,

 

All of the tank cars I saw in trains on the former L&N EK Subdivision during the SBD era had the tank cars at the rear of the train.  In fact, that was true of all non-coal freight cars.  This was especially true of cars that would be tacked on to the end of a unit coal train.  By doing this these cars could be easily removed from the rear of the train once it arrived at a coal marshalling yard such as Hazard thus not requiring a lot of additional working of the train by the yard crew.  The train would then become a mine run that would proceed on to the load out for loading.  The reverse was true as well so those non-coal freight cars could be quickly removed at a terminal such as Corbin.

 

Stuart Thayer

 

In a message dated 4/19/2020 11:14:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, jason.p.greene@... writes:

 

So a train moving up a coal branch with a tank car of diesel fuel would have that tank 6 cars away from the caboose and last locomotive, and between two buffer cars separating the tank car from the coal hoppers. 

 

Would the same be true for an empty uncleaned tank car?

 

If the train were less than 13 cars would the tank be the middle car or would it be closer to the cab or locomotive?

Jason Greene

 

On Apr 19, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...> wrote:

Placement chart from 1979.

<Scan.jpg>


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rwbrv4
 

Thanks Carl
Rick




On Sunday, April 19, 2020 Carl Ardrey <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> wrote:

Depended on commodity.  In general, no closer than 6th car from occupied engine or caboose "if train length permits".  SOU considered all locomotives occupied as does NS.  A tank car also can't be next to a shiftable load.  No restrictions in terms of engines/cabooses on diesel which is considered combustible, not dangerous.
On April 19, 2020 at 5:56 AM "rwbrv4 via groups.io" <dccinstallssales@...> wrote:

Carl, what were those tank car placement orders?
Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@southernrailway.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules

No restrictions for covered hoppers.  Placement restrictions for tank cars only.
CEA
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: pschmidt3013@...
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:20 AM
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules
 
Anyone have access to a Southern Special System Instructions for the late 1970s (or equivalent document for the era) pertaining to the location of a hazmat car within a train? In particular, how many non-hazmat cars would be placed between a locomotive or cab and a covered hopper containing ammonium nitrate.

Thanks
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA
 
 


 


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Stuart Thayer
 

Jason,

All of the tank cars I saw in trains on the former L&N EK Subdivision during the SBD era had the tank cars at the rear of the train.  In fact, that was true of all non-coal freight cars.  This was especially true of cars that would be tacked on to the end of a unit coal train.  By doing this these cars could be easily removed from the rear of the train once it arrived at a coal marshalling yard such as Hazard thus not requiring a lot of additional working of the train by the yard crew.  The train would then become a mine run that would proceed on to the load out for loading.  The reverse was true as well so those non-coal freight cars could be quickly removed at a terminal such as Corbin.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 4/19/2020 11:14:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, jason.p.greene@... writes:

So a train moving up a coal branch with a tank car of diesel fuel would have that tank 6 cars away from the caboose and last locomotive, and between two buffer cars separating the tank car from the coal hoppers. 

Would the same be true for an empty uncleaned tank car?

If the train were less than 13 cars would the tank be the middle car or would it be closer to the cab or locomotive?

Jason Greene

On Apr 19, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...> wrote:

Placement chart from 1979.
<Scan.jpg>


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James
 

From my 20 years in the fire service, DOT did away with the combustible placard in the early 1990’s or so.  Combustible covered too many commodities and shippers were using it on everything they could to avoid restrictions.  Even though it may qualify as poisonous if they could ship as combustible they would.  Emergency response also could not identify the product easily, even some shipments were “use no water” but would not be marked as such with a combustible placard.

Most diesel fuel loads from then to now are labeled Flammable.  Diesel fuel would be UN1993 in the DOT HazMat guide book.

James Wall
Rural Hall, NC




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Carl Ardrey
 

Diesel fuel cars are considered combustible, not dangerous so no placement restrictions.  The fuel cars would have been used to supply fuel facilities at yards.  We had them at Norris Yd, Brosnan Yd, and Sheffield.  Wouldn’t have seen one on a branchline.  Empty DANG tank cars can’t be next to engine.

CEA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jason Greene
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 10:14 AM
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules

 

So a train moving up a coal branch with a tank car of diesel fuel would have that tank 6 cars away from the caboose and last locomotive, and between two buffer cars separating the tank car from the coal hoppers. 

 

Would the same be true for an empty uncleaned tank car?

 

If the train were less than 13 cars would the tank be the middle car or would it be closer to the cab or locomotive?

Jason Greene 



On Apr 19, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...> wrote:

Placement chart from 1979.

<Scan.jpg>

 


locked Re: Hazmat rules

Jason Greene
 

So a train moving up a coal branch with a tank car of diesel fuel would have that tank 6 cars away from the caboose and last locomotive, and between two buffer cars separating the tank car from the coal hoppers. 

Would the same be true for an empty uncleaned tank car?

If the train were less than 13 cars would the tank be the middle car or would it be closer to the cab or locomotive?

Jason Greene 

On Apr 19, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...> wrote:

Placement chart from 1979.
<Scan.jpg>


locked Re: Hazmat rules

Carl Ardrey
 

Placement chart from 1979.


locked Re: Hazmat rules

Carl Ardrey
 

Depended on commodity.  In general, no closer than 6th car from occupied engine or caboose "if train length permits".  SOU considered all locomotives occupied as does NS.  A tank car also can't be next to a shiftable load.  No restrictions in terms of engines/cabooses on diesel which is considered combustible, not dangerous.

On April 19, 2020 at 5:56 AM "rwbrv4 via groups.io" <dccinstallssales@...> wrote:

Carl, what were those tank car placement orders?
Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@southernrailway.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules

No restrictions for covered hoppers.  Placement restrictions for tank cars only.
CEA
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: pschmidt3013@...
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:20 AM
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules
 
Anyone have access to a Southern Special System Instructions for the late 1970s (or equivalent document for the era) pertaining to the location of a hazmat car within a train? In particular, how many non-hazmat cars would be placed between a locomotive or cab and a covered hopper containing ammonium nitrate.

Thanks
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA
 
 


 


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Paul Schmidt
 

Thanks, Carl!
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA


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rwbrv4
 

Carl, what were those tank car placement orders?
Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Ardrey <carlardrey2005@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@southernrailway.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules

No restrictions for covered hoppers.  Placement restrictions for tank cars only.
CEA
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: pschmidt3013@...
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:20 AM
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules
 
Anyone have access to a Southern Special System Instructions for the late 1970s (or equivalent document for the era) pertaining to the location of a hazmat car within a train? In particular, how many non-hazmat cars would be placed between a locomotive or cab and a covered hopper containing ammonium nitrate.

Thanks
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA
 


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Carl Ardrey
 

No restrictions for covered hoppers.  Placement restrictions for tank cars only.

CEA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: pschmidt3013@...
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:20 AM
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Hazmat rules

 

Anyone have access to a Southern Special System Instructions for the late 1970s (or equivalent document for the era) pertaining to the location of a hazmat car within a train? In particular, how many non-hazmat cars would be placed between a locomotive or cab and a covered hopper containing ammonium nitrate.

Thanks
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA

 


locked Hazmat rules

Paul Schmidt
 

Anyone have access to a Southern Special System Instructions for the late 1970s (or equivalent document for the era) pertaining to the location of a hazmat car within a train? In particular, how many non-hazmat cars would be placed between a locomotive or cab and a covered hopper containing ammonium nitrate.

Thanks
--
Paul Schmidt
Sequim WA


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George Eichelberger
 

Stuart:

Thanks! One of my NS projects was to put a fiber optic cable across the bridge so I was all over the K&IT ROW in ’12 and ’13. I could not have missed a track passing underneath. Of course, we worked with local NS folks that would have known about the loop but the subject never came up.

For the first time in many years, I drove over the bridge on the old NB highway lane (following an NS special agent). I don’t know when the bridge was closed to auto traffic but I remember crossing it (cost $.15?) years ago. The locals wanted to open a bike path/walking trail across the bridge but I don’t expect that happened?

Ike


On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Stuart Thayer via groups.io <StuThayer@...> wrote:

Ike,

For those of us that were born and raised in Louisville, KY or just across the Ohio River in Indiana the "Southern Loop" is well known.  Your map shows the Southern Loop (yellow line) splitting off the B&O about a 1/2 a block past the point where the B&O splits off the K&IT trackage coming off the K&IT bridge over the Ohio River.  The Southern track which was the original mainline then loops around to cross under the K&IT tracks.  This arrangement was replaced when the Southern redid their alignment in the 1970's and split off the K&IT right at the end of the bridge bypassing the Loop and the street running.

The attached photo shows train #120 crossing under itself as it heads WB off the K&IT bridge.  The new alignment wiped out this trackage with the fill for the new alignment running through this scene right about where the photographer is standing.  If you visit New Albany today you can still find the loop right-of-way in places if you know where to look and the overpass in the photo is still there.  Although it is obscured by trees now.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 4/14/2020 10:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:

Michael:

Southern Railway contracts 183 (New Albany Belt & Terminal 11-11-1890), contract 184 (New Albany Belt 7-24-1895), contract 442 (Joint Use of Tracks at New Albany, IN 5-28-1908), contract 652 (Joint Use of Passenger Station at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917), contract 653 (Pitts-Cincy & StL tracks at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917) and contract 931 (Southern-PRR crossing at New Albany, IN) all cover agreements at the north end of the K&IT bridge but I do not see a reference, or drawing of a “loop track” except on the street railway. The attached drawing from contract 442 shows the K&IT tracks off the bridge but only a far toward the river as Main St. I’ve been across the bridge and to where the tracks split but do not remember a track under the bridge.

Maybe someone can look at the drawing and help?

Ike

<442 New Albany, IN.jpeg>

On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Michael Shirey <pcrrhs6561@...> wrote:

Looking for some help finding photos and or information on the Southern railway by-pass loop off of the north end of the K&IT bridge in New Albany, Indiana. Southern had trackage rights on the B&O to loop around and under the north end of the bridge then westward on the east and west district line.





Thanks, Michael Shirey





<SOU 3137_Tr 120_New Albany  IN_5-73_coll SThayer.jpg><442 New Albany, IN.jpeg>


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Stuart Thayer
 

Michael,

Glad to help.  The Southern in and around Louisville, KY is near and dear to my heart.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 4/15/2020 5:51:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, pcrrhs6561@... writes:

 Stuart Thayer thanks you for your very in-depth information on this topic. You my friend have hit the jackpot and helps me understand this more.  If anyone is interested I have a Facebook group for this topic and my layout build..https://www.facebook.com/groups/2278439425795609/





Thanks, Michael Shirey






On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:37 PM Stuart Thayer via groups.io <StuThayer=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ike,

For those of us that were born and raised in Louisville, KY or just across the Ohio River in Indiana the "Southern Loop" is well known.  Your map shows the Southern Loop (yellow line) splitting off the B&O about a 1/2 a block past the point where the B&O splits off the K&IT trackage coming off the K&IT bridge over the Ohio River.  The Southern track which was the original mainline then loops around to cross under the K&IT tracks.  This arrangement was replaced when the Southern redid their alignment in the 1970's and split off the K&IT right at the end of the bridge bypassing the Loop and the street running.

The attached photo shows train #120 crossing under itself as it heads WB off the K&IT bridge.  The new alignment wiped out this trackage with the fill for the new alignment running through this scene right about where the photographer is standing.  If you visit New Albany today you can still find the loop right-of-way in places if you know where to look and the overpass in the photo is still there.  Although it is obscured by trees now.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 4/14/2020 10:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:

Michael:

Southern Railway contracts 183 (New Albany Belt & Terminal 11-11-1890), contract 184 (New Albany Belt 7-24-1895), contract 442 (Joint Use of Tracks at New Albany, IN 5-28-1908), contract 652 (Joint Use of Passenger Station at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917), contract 653 (Pitts-Cincy & StL tracks at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917) and contract 931 (Southern-PRR crossing at New Albany, IN) all cover agreements at the north end of the K&IT bridge but I do not see a reference, or drawing of a “loop track” except on the street railway. The attached drawing from contract 442 shows the K&IT tracks off the bridge but only a far toward the river as Main St. I’ve been across the bridge and to where the tracks split but do not remember a track under the bridge.

Maybe someone can look at the drawing and help?

Ike



On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Michael Shirey <pcrrhs6561@...> wrote:

Looking for some help finding photos and or information on the Southern railway by-pass loop off of the north end of the K&IT bridge in New Albany, Indiana. Southern had trackage rights on the B&O to loop around and under the north end of the bridge then westward on the east and west district line.





Thanks, Michael Shirey






 



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Stephen Warner
 

Ike and all,

The K&I Bridge did indeed leave Youngtown with a loop turning right/east and then under the bridge to run west toward Duncan Tunnel and Huntingburg.   In 1969 I patrolled that trackage between Huntingburg and the K&I Bridge on Fairmont M-19 Motor Cars.  As I lived until Feb. '70 in New Albany, I could hear the Monon running behind my apt. house on Bono Rd. north of the bridge morning and night.  The B&OSW also came onto/off of the bridge from the NE, then passing our Youngtown Yard and Floyd St.  As your JF Files showed, we had a separate JF there, and had the (then) Operator count cars to share the maintenance.  When I was there, besides DI Tower at the north end of Youngtown, there was KI Tower on the bridge (N. end?) with the original Operator handling the Interlocking.  I believe that he was K&IT.  I spent a few evenings there - he had a hobby to "collect" the Radio Car Numbers of the slave trains as they went by.   Sometime after I left, SR built a LH turnout somewhere on the N. end of the bridge and a ramp west down to the Main going toward Duncan Tunnel.  The PCC&SL/PRR never crossed the bridge as far as I knew, and was not a petty to the Five Line Agreement; we got to them (now LNA&) via the Panama Track on the Levee, but connected with the Monon north on Vincennes St. .  The Five Line Agreement was my specialty later in JF, and I spent much time there and dealing with the remnants of the Monon/Soo/CP/CSX as we shut down the agreement.  At one time CP/Soo ( ICC-granted TR on Monon that they refused to give up after CSX abandoned their Monon operation) had one train in and out, and we handled the switching, Interchange, and Loco servicing in Youngtown.   Before I retired, I walked the remains of the Loop Track - not much left then, just a short weedy lead to what used to be an industry just to the east with a troublesome turnout on a sharp main line curve.  But the most interesting thing was the roadway for vehicles that ran along beside the K&I Bridge Tracks. It was shut down decades ago, but I recall that it was barricaded off to traffic the last time I saw it. One day in the '90's I was with the Term. Supt. and we got a call to go with the Special Agents to the old K&IT HQ.  It was a beautiful Victorian mansion in a residential area, that someone had called in a trespasser.  It was like an office bldg that everyone had  just gone home expecting to come back the next day.  Strange and haunting.  One of my memories that stay with me.


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Michael Shirey
 

 Stuart Thayer thanks you for your very in-depth information on this topic. You my friend have hit the jackpot and helps me understand this more.  If anyone is interested I have a Facebook group for this topic and my layout build..https://www.facebook.com/groups/2278439425795609/





Thanks, Michael Shirey 







On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:37 PM Stuart Thayer via groups.io <StuThayer=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ike,

For those of us that were born and raised in Louisville, KY or just across the Ohio River in Indiana the "Southern Loop" is well known.  Your map shows the Southern Loop (yellow line) splitting off the B&O about a 1/2 a block past the point where the B&O splits off the K&IT trackage coming off the K&IT bridge over the Ohio River.  The Southern track which was the original mainline then loops around to cross under the K&IT tracks.  This arrangement was replaced when the Southern redid their alignment in the 1970's and split off the K&IT right at the end of the bridge bypassing the Loop and the street running.

The attached photo shows train #120 crossing under itself as it heads WB off the K&IT bridge.  The new alignment wiped out this trackage with the fill for the new alignment running through this scene right about where the photographer is standing.  If you visit New Albany today you can still find the loop right-of-way in places if you know where to look and the overpass in the photo is still there.  Although it is obscured by trees now.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 4/14/2020 10:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:

Michael:

Southern Railway contracts 183 (New Albany Belt & Terminal 11-11-1890), contract 184 (New Albany Belt 7-24-1895), contract 442 (Joint Use of Tracks at New Albany, IN 5-28-1908), contract 652 (Joint Use of Passenger Station at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917), contract 653 (Pitts-Cincy & StL tracks at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917) and contract 931 (Southern-PRR crossing at New Albany, IN) all cover agreements at the north end of the K&IT bridge but I do not see a reference, or drawing of a “loop track” except on the street railway. The attached drawing from contract 442 shows the K&IT tracks off the bridge but only a far toward the river as Main St. I’ve been across the bridge and to where the tracks split but do not remember a track under the bridge.

Maybe someone can look at the drawing and help?

Ike



On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Michael Shirey <pcrrhs6561@...> wrote:

Looking for some help finding photos and or information on the Southern railway by-pass loop off of the north end of the K&IT bridge in New Albany, Indiana. Southern had trackage rights on the B&O to loop around and under the north end of the bridge then westward on the east and west district line.





Thanks, Michael Shirey






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Stuart Thayer
 

Ike,

For those of us that were born and raised in Louisville, KY or just across the Ohio River in Indiana the "Southern Loop" is well known.  Your map shows the Southern Loop (yellow line) splitting off the B&O about a 1/2 a block past the point where the B&O splits off the K&IT trackage coming off the K&IT bridge over the Ohio River.  The Southern track which was the original mainline then loops around to cross under the K&IT tracks.  This arrangement was replaced when the Southern redid their alignment in the 1970's and split off the K&IT right at the end of the bridge bypassing the Loop and the street running.

The attached photo shows train #120 crossing under itself as it heads WB off the K&IT bridge.  The new alignment wiped out this trackage with the fill for the new alignment running through this scene right about where the photographer is standing.  If you visit New Albany today you can still find the loop right-of-way in places if you know where to look and the overpass in the photo is still there.  Although it is obscured by trees now.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 4/14/2020 10:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:

Michael:

Southern Railway contracts 183 (New Albany Belt & Terminal 11-11-1890), contract 184 (New Albany Belt 7-24-1895), contract 442 (Joint Use of Tracks at New Albany, IN 5-28-1908), contract 652 (Joint Use of Passenger Station at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917), contract 653 (Pitts-Cincy & StL tracks at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917) and contract 931 (Southern-PRR crossing at New Albany, IN) all cover agreements at the north end of the K&IT bridge but I do not see a reference, or drawing of a “loop track” except on the street railway. The attached drawing from contract 442 shows the K&IT tracks off the bridge but only a far toward the river as Main St. I’ve been across the bridge and to where the tracks split but do not remember a track under the bridge.

Maybe someone can look at the drawing and help?

Ike



On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Michael Shirey <pcrrhs6561@...> wrote:

Looking for some help finding photos and or information on the Southern railway by-pass loop off of the north end of the K&IT bridge in New Albany, Indiana. Southern had trackage rights on the B&O to loop around and under the north end of the bridge then westward on the east and west district line.





Thanks, Michael Shirey






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George Eichelberger
 

Michael:

Southern Railway contracts 183 (New Albany Belt & Terminal 11-11-1890), contract 184 (New Albany Belt 7-24-1895), contract 442 (Joint Use of Tracks at New Albany, IN 5-28-1908), contract 652 (Joint Use of Passenger Station at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917), contract 653 (Pitts-Cincy & StL tracks at New Albany, IN 1-2-1917) and contract 931 (Southern-PRR crossing at New Albany, IN) all cover agreements at the north end of the K&IT bridge but I do not see a reference, or drawing of a “loop track” except on the street railway. The attached drawing from contract 442 shows the K&IT tracks off the bridge but only a far toward the river as Main St. I’ve been across the bridge and to where the tracks split but do not remember a track under the bridge.

Maybe someone can look at the drawing and help?

Ike



On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Michael Shirey <pcrrhs6561@...> wrote:

Looking for some help finding photos and or information on the Southern railway by-pass loop off of the north end of the K&IT bridge in New Albany, Indiana. Southern had trackage rights on the B&O to loop around and under the north end of the bridge then westward on the east and west district line.





Thanks, Michael Shirey 







locked Southern K&IT Bridge

Michael Shirey
 

Looking for some help finding photos and or information on the Southern railway by-pass loop off of the north end of the K&IT bridge in New Albany, Indiana. Southern had trackage rights on the B&O to loop around and under the north end of the bridge then westward on the east and west district line.





Thanks, Michael Shirey 






locked Re: Storm Report Chatt

Jim Thurston
 

Mike:

I'll quit complaining about my power outage

Jim Thurston


From: "mike turner" <michaellturner@...>
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:04:45 PM
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Storm Report Chatt

Jim,

Good news!

Tornado 3am this morning 3 miles down the road from me took out the county's largest employer.

-- 
Mike Turner
MP-Z35

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