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locked Re: Savannah and Atlanta Cab X-256 (and SOU X-255)

Michael Sherbak II
 

Also - I believe one of these cabooses is located in Varnville SC 

Michael
803-293-5568


On Feb 8, 2021, at 20:39, Michael J Sherbak II <msherbak11@...> wrote:

Didn’t the yellow cupola indicate a local ? 

Michael
803-293-5568


On Feb 8, 2021, at 19:44, Warren Calloway <wcalloway@...> wrote:


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On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:49 PM, David Friedlander <davidjfriedlander@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I just received my 2020Q4 TIES.  It was very well done. Kudos to those who take the time to produce these articles.

I now have excuses to run 30-car silversides trains.

In any case, I had a question about the S&A caboose shown on page 23.  When did this NE-style caboose get repainted from the (White and/or Off-White) to SOU red/yellow?

Here's a photo of it prior to the repaint:

I might as well ask - Would the colors match S&A 251 on page 22? Looking at Sam McCall's website, it looks like my initial thoughts are correct: http://hosam.com/roads/sa.html  (white sides, black roof, caboose red ends.)

The image archive also has an interesting photo of X-255. When did it get its windows plated over and repainted into Southern? These look like neat projects for way down the road.

Thanks,
David Friedlander


locked Re: Savannah and Atlanta Cab X-256 (and SOU X-255)

Michael Sherbak II
 

Didn’t the yellow cupola indicate a local ? 

Michael
803-293-5568


On Feb 8, 2021, at 19:44, Warren Calloway <wcalloway@...> wrote:


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On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:49 PM, David Friedlander <davidjfriedlander@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I just received my 2020Q4 TIES.  It was very well done. Kudos to those who take the time to produce these articles.

I now have excuses to run 30-car silversides trains.

In any case, I had a question about the S&A caboose shown on page 23.  When did this NE-style caboose get repainted from the (White and/or Off-White) to SOU red/yellow?

Here's a photo of it prior to the repaint:

I might as well ask - Would the colors match S&A 251 on page 22? Looking at Sam McCall's website, it looks like my initial thoughts are correct: http://hosam.com/roads/sa.html  (white sides, black roof, caboose red ends.)

The image archive also has an interesting photo of X-255. When did it get its windows plated over and repainted into Southern? These look like neat projects for way down the road.

Thanks,
David Friedlander


locked Re: Savannah and Atlanta Cab X-256 (and SOU X-255)

Warren Calloway
 




On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:49 PM, David Friedlander <davidjfriedlander@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I just received my 2020Q4 TIES.  It was very well done. Kudos to those who take the time to produce these articles.

I now have excuses to run 30-car silversides trains.

In any case, I had a question about the S&A caboose shown on page 23.  When did this NE-style caboose get repainted from the (White and/or Off-White) to SOU red/yellow?

Here's a photo of it prior to the repaint:

I might as well ask - Would the colors match S&A 251 on page 22? Looking at Sam McCall's website, it looks like my initial thoughts are correct: http://hosam.com/roads/sa.html  (white sides, black roof, caboose red ends.)

The image archive also has an interesting photo of X-255. When did it get its windows plated over and repainted into Southern? These look like neat projects for way down the road.

Thanks,
David Friedlander


locked Savannah and Atlanta Cab X-256 (and SOU X-255)

David Friedlander
 

Hi all,

I just received my 2020Q4 TIES.  It was very well done. Kudos to those who take the time to produce these articles.

I now have excuses to run 30-car silversides trains.

In any case, I had a question about the S&A caboose shown on page 23.  When did this NE-style caboose get repainted from the (White and/or Off-White) to SOU red/yellow?

Here's a photo of it prior to the repaint:

I might as well ask - Would the colors match S&A 251 on page 22? Looking at Sam McCall's website, it looks like my initial thoughts are correct: http://hosam.com/roads/sa.html  (white sides, black roof, caboose red ends.)

The image archive also has an interesting photo of X-255. When did it get its windows plated over and repainted into Southern? These look like neat projects for way down the road.

Thanks,
David Friedlander


locked Re: Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

Michael Roderick
 

Ike:

 

Thank you for that link.

 

Mike

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Eichelberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:35
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

 

Mike:

 

This is a good question and one the .io groups do not make clear. I’ll post it for everyone….

 

I’d suggest “subscribing” (by sending an email) to  ModelingTheSouthern@SouthernRailway.groups.io

to get on that group.

 

You’ll notice the browser page does/should(?) list all of the io groups where you are member. I usually log in to “ main@SouthernRailway.groups.io then use the pull down at the top of the page to go to other groups; MFCL, passenger, etc. (I recommend them all!)

 

Ike

 

 

 

On Feb 3, 2021, at 11:06 AM, Michael Roderick <mdrghost@...> wrote:

 

Ike:

 

I have looked for the group on Groups.io and can’t find it. All I get is this info.

 

Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Interchange main@SouthernRailway.groups.io

Which is our group. If you know the admin for that group have them email me of list.

 

Mike

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Eichelberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:54
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

 

Sorry, I don’t see your point. “Decals” are clearly a “modeling” subject..that’s why the “Modelingthesouthern.io” group was created and advertised as part of this group. Here is a copy of an email I sent yesterday.

 

I realize we have two pretty distinct groups, historical/business types and modelers. I'm both but I understand “modeling” topics may need more discussion and details. If someone is not “into” modeling that material can get tedious. You’’ll find the topics on “modeling” are pretty good and that’s where I usually post things like drawings there. Sometimes, I think items may apply to both and I’ll post something twice.

 

Ike

 

 

 

Both are SRHA owned groups so archives goodies appear in both.

 

On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:18 AM, RamblingReck <ramblingreck@...> wrote:

 


-- I thought this was the Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Exchange group. I found the exchanges on decals interesting. 


John Ryan

 

 


locked Re: Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

George Eichelberger
 

Mike:

This is a good question and one the .io groups do not make clear. I’ll post it for everyone….

I’d suggest “subscribing” (by sending an email) to  ModelingTheSouthern@SouthernRailway.groups.io
to get on that group.

You’ll notice the browser page does/should(?) list all of the io groups where you are member. I usually log in to “ main@SouthernRailway.groups.io then use the pull down at the top of the page to go to other groups; MFCL, passenger, etc. (I recommend them all!)

Ike



On Feb 3, 2021, at 11:06 AM, Michael Roderick <mdrghost@...> wrote:

Ike:
 
I have looked for the group on Groups.io and can’t find it. All I get is this info.
 

Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Interchange main@SouthernRailway.groups.io

Which is our group. If you know the admin for that group have them email me of list.
 
Mike
 
From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Eichelberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:54
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io
 
Sorry, I don’t see your point. “Decals” are clearly a “modeling” subject..that’s why the “Modelingthesouthern.io” group was created and advertised as part of this group. Here is a copy of an email I sent yesterday.
 
I realize we have two pretty distinct groups, historical/business types and modelers. I'm both but I understand “modeling” topics may need more discussion and details. If someone is not “into” modeling that material can get tedious. You’’ll find the topics on “modeling” are pretty good and that’s where I usually post things like drawings there. Sometimes, I think items may apply to both and I’ll post something twice.
 
Ike
 
 
 
Both are SRHA owned groups so archives goodies appear in both.
 
On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:18 AM, RamblingReck <ramblingreck@...> wrote:
 

-- I thought this was the Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Exchange group. I found the exchanges on decals interesting. 

John Ryan
 



locked Re: Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

Michael Roderick
 

Ike:

 

I have looked for the group on Groups.io and can’t find it. All I get is this info.

 

Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Interchange main@SouthernRailway.groups.io

Which is our group. If you know the admin for that group have them email me of list.

 

Mike

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Eichelberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:54
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

 

Sorry, I don’t see your point. “Decals” are clearly a “modeling” subject..that’s why the “Modelingthesouthern.io” group was created and advertised as part of this group. Here is a copy of an email I sent yesterday.

 

I realize we have two pretty distinct groups, historical/business types and modelers. I'm both but I understand “modeling” topics may need more discussion and details. If someone is not “into” modeling that material can get tedious. You’’ll find the topics on “modeling” are pretty good and that’s where I usually post things like drawings there. Sometimes, I think items may apply to both and I’ll post something twice.

 

Ike

 

 

 

Both are SRHA owned groups so archives goodies appear in both.

 

On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:18 AM, RamblingReck <ramblingreck@...> wrote:

 


-- I thought this was the Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Exchange group. I found the exchanges on decals interesting. 


John Ryan

 


locked Re: Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

George Eichelberger
 

Sorry, I don’t see your point. “Decals” are clearly a “modeling” subject..that’s why the “Modelingthesouthern.io” group was created and advertised as part of this group. Here is a copy of an email I sent yesterday.

I realize we have two pretty distinct groups, historical/business types and modelers. I'm both but I understand “modeling” topics may need more discussion and details. If someone is not “into” modeling that material can get tedious. You’’ll find the topics on “modeling” are pretty good and that’s where I usually post things like drawings there. Sometimes, I think items may apply to both and I’ll post something twice.

Ike



Both are SRHA owned groups so archives goodies appear in both.

On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:18 AM, RamblingReck <ramblingreck@...> wrote:


-- I thought this was the Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Exchange group. I found the exchanges on decals interesting. 


John Ryan



locked Re: Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

RamblingReck
 


-- I thought this was the Southern Railway Historical and Modeling Information Exchange group. I found the exchanges on decals interesting. 


John Ryan


locked Re: DT&I Study of 1975

George Eichelberger
 

The DT&I had an important role for the Southern with auto parts traffic.

If an auto parts car was bad ordered at one of the parts or assembly plants in Michigan, it would be billed empty to Hayne Shop in Spartanburg for repairs or “re-complimenting” if missing DF equipment was the problem. Not only was the r/t deadhead mileage a problem, an assigned car would be out of service until it could be returned. That could be a real problem for special equipment that stayed with the car.

That, plus the fact a remarkable percentage of Southern cars never came “home” during their assignments*. The Southern had the DT&I do work on cars to save the trip to Spartanburg.

*For example, if a car was set up to move auto bodies, transmissions, whatever for a particular car model and the auto companies shifted assembly of that car to another plant (not in Atlanta) in the same pool, the rail car stayed in that pool with no mileage on the SRS. (Pool cars were loaded and sent as needed, no matter which road owned the car or its destination.)

Ike

PS for anyone interested in Southern 50’ box cars, I’m told there are only three copies of the first SRHA box car book (1938-1963) left in the Grab. I don’t expect we’ll see another printing until the revised and expanded 40’ box car book and the second (1963-1982) 50’ box car book.



On Feb 2, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Michael Shirey <pcrrhs6561@...> wrote:

 I will say this, I model a Modern Southern Railway from about 1982 to 1990,  and this is very informative information on the DT&I.  In my world the DT&I was merged into the Southern in 1983 in a 50/50 split with the GTW.  Again I know this group is for the Southern pre 1982.  But I just wanted to share my 2 Cents. 


Michael Shirey
PCRRHS and SRHA Member


On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:39 PM CMayhew <chris.mayhew611@...> wrote:
A fascinating what-if scenario there.




locked Re: DT&I Study of 1975

Michael Shirey
 

 I will say this, I model a Modern Southern Railway from about 1982 to 1990,  and this is very informative information on the DT&I.  In my world the DT&I was merged into the Southern in 1983 in a 50/50 split with the GTW.  Again I know this group is for the Southern pre 1982.  But I just wanted to share my 2 Cents. 


Michael Shirey
PCRRHS and SRHA Member


On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:39 PM CMayhew <chris.mayhew611@...> wrote:
A fascinating what-if scenario there.


locked Re: Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

A&Y Dave in MD
 

oops. Sure

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Feb 2, 2021, at 6:00 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

All:

Could I suggest we respond directly to an individual if we have a question for them, AND move modeling topics, e.g. decals, to the "modeling the Southern.io" group?

Ike


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

A&Y Dave in MD
 

I believe so.  Note that I created custom sets based upon my need. Those are not generic 0-6-0 decals but specific to the 1684 in Greensboro. And I added an A&Y roadname just for fun since I toyed with using it. The A&Y paid a share of the upkeep since it switched for both it and the parent Southern. But I only have one of these Tenshodo engines and decided it needed to be as accurate as I could, at least in lettering.  

I also created a Mikado set for 4560, that ran on the Winston-Salem Division in 1934. And an 8x10 decal set that can letter 26 individual A&Y freight locomotives and at least 3 cabs rented from the Southern with A&Y lettering. 

Jim at Highball has the artwork. Tell him to ask me if there is any concern and I’ll give permission again.

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Feb 2, 2021, at 5:55 PM, michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...> wrote:

Dave:
Is it possible for others of us to buy sets of those decals you’ve had printed by HighBall Graphics??
Michael 


On Feb 2, 2021, at 3:14 PM, cajordan2 <cajordan2@...> wrote:


Michael, 

If you do have some printed, I would definitely like to buy a few sets.

Chad



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...>
Date: 2/2/21 2:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io, main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked Let's Move topic about modeling to "Modeling the Southern.io

George Eichelberger
 

All:

Could I suggest we respond directly to an individual if we have a question for them, AND move modeling topics, e.g. decals, to the "modeling the Southern.io" group?

Ike


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

michael DUNNINGTON
 

Dave:
Is it possible for others of us to buy sets of those decals you’ve had printed by HighBall Graphics??
Michael 


On Feb 2, 2021, at 3:14 PM, cajordan2 <cajordan2@...> wrote:


Michael, 

If you do have some printed, I would definitely like to buy a few sets.

Chad



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...>
Date: 2/2/21 2:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io, main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

cajordan2
 

Michael, 

If you do have some printed, I would definitely like to buy a few sets.

Chad



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...>
Date: 2/2/21 2:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io, main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

A&Y Dave in MD
 

I use Donnie’s artwork to create custom decals printed by Highball Graphics. Attached is my current project using just that.



Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Feb 2, 2021, at 1:12 PM, michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...> wrote:


Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked Re: DT&I Study of 1975

 

A fascinating what-if scenario there.


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

michael DUNNINGTON
 

Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

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locked DT&I Study of 1975

George Eichelberger
 

Sorry attachment did not work for first attempt.

The attached is page 4 of a 1975 study of the DT&I by the Southern. The idea, revisited in 1977, was to expand the Southern north of Cincinnati at the beginning of the Conrail era for $18.161M additional SRS revenue.

Ike

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