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locked Heater Car 50 at TVRM?

Rob Wingo
 

Anyone,

 

Is the heater car HC-50  or a mid-train radio car or a transfer caboose preserved at TVRM?  I am interested in modeling them.

 

Thanks,

Rob


locked Re: Moving to Atlanta...in 1928!

Bill Schafer
 

I meant to say that the image was of the newer of the old buildings on Penna Ave. Even though this area has long since been taken over by government office buildings, the Old Post Office still stands and is a handy landmark to figure out where things were 100 years ago. 

On Mar 10, 2021, at 15:18, Bill Schafer <bill4501@...> wrote:

Location of original SOU office buildings in Washington, D.C. was at 1300 Pennsylvania Avenue, a block west of the old Post Office at 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue. Southern added to these buildings over the years; I’ll have to check the dates, but the  original SOU HQ building - an ornate monstrosity - was partially destroyed by fire in 1916. 

When SOU built its new executive office building on K Street, it was not large enough to accommodate everyone at Pennsylvania Avenue, so they added five stories to the 125 Building and two stories to the 99 Building in Atlanta and moved a number of departments there in late 1928. See Southern News Bulletin for November 1928 for the story. 

Attached is an image of the office newest office building, which I think was built in 1916, at night in 1922. 

This is the Federal Triangle area today.

—Bill Schafer

<Washington DC 1300 Penna Ave office bldg at night Jan 3 1922 Leet Bros photo from NS.jpeg>



On Mar 10, 2021, at 14:21, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

Tim:

Here is a Google Drive link to SRHA Archives SR Presidents’ Files Box 420 File 9682 Washington, DC office.


Note that Chattanooga attempted to get the Sou Rwy headquarters.

Ike

PS If anyone would like to help get more files from the SRHA archives scanned……donations to www.srha.net or TVRM are always appreciated.





On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:07 PM, TIM ANDREWS <ANDREWSTIM@...> wrote:

Where were the original Southern offices in DC that the government took over?  I assume they might have been in the area now known as Federal Triangle.  From Wikipedia:

Seven of the buildings in Federal Triangle were built by the U.S. federal government in the early and mid-1930s as part of a coordinated construction plan 

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 01:49:47 PM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


What’s old is new again…Atlanta newspaper clipping from 3-6-1928 in the SRHA archives. (Box 420 File 9682 Washington DC Office Bldgs - 1927)

Ike

<1928-3-6 Atl Constitution  clipping.jpeg>


<1928-3-6 Atl Constitution  clipping.jpeg>




locked Re: Moving to Atlanta...in 1928!

Bill Schafer
 

Location of original SOU office buildings in Washington, D.C. was at 1300 Pennsylvania Avenue, a block west of the old Post Office at 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue. Southern added to these buildings over the years; I’ll have to check the dates, but the  original SOU HQ building - an ornate monstrosity - was partially destroyed by fire in 1916. 

When SOU built its new executive office building on K Street, it was not large enough to accommodate everyone at Pennsylvania Avenue, so they added five stories to the 125 Building and two stories to the 99 Building in Atlanta and moved a number of departments there in late 1928. See Southern News Bulletin for November 1928 for the story. 

Attached is an image of the office newest office building, which I think was built in 1916, at night in 1922. 

This is the Federal Triangle area today.

—Bill Schafer





On Mar 10, 2021, at 14:21, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

Tim:

Here is a Google Drive link to SRHA Archives SR Presidents’ Files Box 420 File 9682 Washington, DC office.


Note that Chattanooga attempted to get the Sou Rwy headquarters.

Ike

PS If anyone would like to help get more files from the SRHA archives scanned……donations to www.srha.net or TVRM are always appreciated.





On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:07 PM, TIM ANDREWS <ANDREWSTIM@...> wrote:

Where were the original Southern offices in DC that the government took over?  I assume they might have been in the area now known as Federal Triangle.  From Wikipedia:

Seven of the buildings in Federal Triangle were built by the U.S. federal government in the early and mid-1930s as part of a coordinated construction plan 

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 01:49:47 PM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


What’s old is new again…Atlanta newspaper clipping from 3-6-1928 in the SRHA archives. (Box 420 File 9682 Washington DC Office Bldgs - 1927)

Ike

<1928-3-6 Atl Constitution  clipping.jpeg>


<1928-3-6 Atl Constitution  clipping.jpeg>



locked Re: Moving to Atlanta...in 1928!

George Eichelberger
 

Tim:

Here is a Google Drive link to SRHA Archives SR Presidents’ Files Box 420 File 9682 Washington, DC office.


Note that Chattanooga attempted to get the Sou Rwy headquarters.

Ike

PS If anyone would like to help get more files from the SRHA archives scanned……donations to www.srha.net or TVRM are always appreciated.





On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:07 PM, TIM ANDREWS <ANDREWSTIM@...> wrote:

Where were the original Southern offices in DC that the government took over?  I assume they might have been in the area now known as Federal Triangle.  From Wikipedia:

Seven of the buildings in Federal Triangle were built by the U.S. federal government in the early and mid-1930s as part of a coordinated construction plan 

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 01:49:47 PM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


What’s old is new again…Atlanta newspaper clipping from 3-6-1928 in the SRHA archives. (Box 420 File 9682 Washington DC Office Bldgs - 1927)

Ike

<1928-3-6 Atl Constitution  clipping.jpeg>


<1928-3-6 Atl Constitution  clipping.jpeg>


locked Re: Moving to Atlanta...in 1928!

TIM ANDREWS
 

Where were the original Southern offices in DC that the government took over?  I assume they might have been in the area now known as Federal Triangle.  From Wikipedia:

Seven of the buildings in Federal Triangle were built by the U.S. federal government in the early and mid-1930s as part of a coordinated construction plan 

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 01:49:47 PM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


What’s old is new again…Atlanta newspaper clipping from 3-6-1928 in the SRHA archives. (Box 420 File 9682 Washington DC Office Bldgs - 1927)

Ike




locked Moving to Atlanta...in 1928!

George Eichelberger
 

What’s old is new again…Atlanta newspaper clipping from 3-6-1928 in the SRHA archives. (Box 420 File 9682 Washington DC Office Bldgs - 1927)

Ike




locked Creation of the RF&P - 1900

George Eichelberger
 

The SRHA Archives contain many files on agreements, correspondence and contracts with other railroads (beginning about 1894). 

The Southern Railway’s work with the Washington Southern predates the RF&P as the Southern had its own line to Alexandria, VA, interchanged freight with the PRR (PB&W) and B&O and used Washington Southern to get its passenger trains into DC before Washington Union Station was constructed.

There are multiple files on the WS, Potomac Yard and the RF&P, here (Box 83 File 3859 - 175 scanned items) is a two page letter from AJ Cassatt of the PRR to Sam Spencer written 2-21-1900 describing the concept of the RF&P.





locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

bjarne@juno.com
 

It was a great job -- extra board out of Chicago as a service attendant and then as a lead service attendant. The Chicago crew base held almost all assignments except some of #7 and #8 (some Seattle crews), the DC section of the Bway Ltd until it went HEP (then we got it) and the Floridian. #3 and #4 also had some LA based crews - mostly in the sleepers I think..


locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Steve Ellis
 

Wow, you really got around the country.

On Mar 9, 2021, at 8:34 PM, bjarne@juno.com wrote:

My experiences go back to when I was a service attendant for Amtrak during the summer seasons of 1977, 1979, and 1980. The service attendants usually went to a different hotel than the transportation employees like conductors and engineers. This was probably because the transportation people had their hotels paid by the host railroad. Further, as both groups were represented by different unions, that also could have had an effect on who stayed where. For every rule, there is an exception. I stayed in the same places as the rest of the crew at Dubuque, Quincy, Carbondale, and Champaign. Different locales in LA, New York, New Orleans, Detroit, and St. Louis. Hope this information is helpful, FWIW. Bjarne Henderson, Valparaiso, IN





locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

bjarne@juno.com
 

My experiences go back to when I was a service attendant for Amtrak during the summer seasons of 1977, 1979, and 1980. The service attendants usually went to a different hotel than the transportation employees like conductors and engineers. This was probably because the transportation people had their hotels paid by the host railroad. Further, as both groups were represented by different unions, that also could have had an effect on who stayed where. For every rule, there is an exception. I stayed in the same places as the rest of the crew at Dubuque, Quincy, Carbondale, and Champaign. Different locales in LA, New York, New Orleans, Detroit, and St. Louis. Hope this information is helpful, FWIW. Bjarne Henderson, Valparaiso, IN


locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Steve Ellis
 

Or the cruise on the Crescent based out of New Orleans or Washington, or both?


On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Steve Ellis <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

As I remember it, the attendants’ jackets did seem to look to be styled a little bit like a sports jacket or blazer, but without the lining or construction. They were also shorter, but I remember them having a button front and lapels.




On Mar 9, 2021, at 2:44 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

When office car NS-8 arrived at TVRM, I was looking in the closets and discovered several what I’d call “attendants’ jackets, soiled but in good condition. Someday, I expect they will find a new use in a museum display?

Ike

PS We are still looking for new trucks for Southern OC-21 circa 1956 (when it was converted at Hayne Shop). If anyone know of any that might be available, let me know at archives@....



On Mar 9, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Robert W. Grabarek, Jr. <grabarek@...> wrote:

The white jacket was normal attire for coach attendants.

Bob Grabarek

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Steve Ellis via groups.io" 
Sent: Mar 9, 2021 12:17 PM 
To: "main@SouthernRailway.groups.io" 
Subject: Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars 

Wonderful, thank you! 

 On my trip on the Southern from Washington to Atlanta and back in October of 1970, it seemed that even car attendants wore a white cotton 
jacket that looks like something a waiter would wear. Is that normal attire or was this person perhaps a member of the dining staff filling in for
the regular car attendant? 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 11:42:52 AM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


In addition to hotels, many cities and large railroad facilities had either bunkhouses or YMCAs. (There are plans for several in the archives.) The question is….were they used by dining car staff? I suspect that was not common because dining cars were dropped and picked up by trains at various depots.

Ike

PS Here are two pages from the 7-31-57 dining car assignments.



On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:


> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?
 
While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.
- Bill



locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Steve Ellis
 

As I remember it, the attendants’ jackets did seem to look to be styled a little bit like a sports jacket or blazer, but without the lining or construction. They were also shorter, but I remember them having a button front and lapels.




On Mar 9, 2021, at 2:44 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

When office car NS-8 arrived at TVRM, I was looking in the closets and discovered several what I’d call “attendants’ jackets, soiled but in good condition. Someday, I expect they will find a new use in a museum display?

Ike

PS We are still looking for new trucks for Southern OC-21 circa 1956 (when it was converted at Hayne Shop). If anyone know of any that might be available, let me know at archives@....



On Mar 9, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Robert W. Grabarek, Jr. <grabarek@...> wrote:

The white jacket was normal attire for coach attendants.

Bob Grabarek

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Steve Ellis via groups.io" 
Sent: Mar 9, 2021 12:17 PM 
To: "main@SouthernRailway.groups.io" 
Subject: Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars 

Wonderful, thank you! 

 On my trip on the Southern from Washington to Atlanta and back in October of 1970, it seemed that even car attendants wore a white cotton 
jacket that looks like something a waiter would wear. Is that normal attire or was this person perhaps a member of the dining staff filling in for
the regular car attendant? 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 11:42:52 AM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


In addition to hotels, many cities and large railroad facilities had either bunkhouses or YMCAs. (There are plans for several in the archives.) The question is….were they used by dining car staff? I suspect that was not common because dining cars were dropped and picked up by trains at various depots.

Ike

PS Here are two pages from the 7-31-57 dining car assignments.



On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:


> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?
 
While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.
- Bill



locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

George Eichelberger
 

When office car NS-8 arrived at TVRM, I was looking in the closets and discovered several what I’d call “attendants’ jackets, soiled but in good condition. Someday, I expect they will find a new use in a museum display?

Ike

PS We are still looking for new trucks for Southern OC-21 circa 1956 (when it was converted at Hayne Shop). If anyone know of any that might be available, let me know at archives@....



On Mar 9, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Robert W. Grabarek, Jr. <grabarek@...> wrote:

The white jacket was normal attire for coach attendants.

Bob Grabarek

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Steve Ellis via groups.io" 
Sent: Mar 9, 2021 12:17 PM 
To: "main@SouthernRailway.groups.io" 
Subject: Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars 

Wonderful, thank you! 

 On my trip on the Southern from Washington to Atlanta and back in October of 1970, it seemed that even car attendants wore a white cotton 
jacket that looks like something a waiter would wear. Is that normal attire or was this person perhaps a member of the dining staff filling in for
the regular car attendant? 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 11:42:52 AM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


In addition to hotels, many cities and large railroad facilities had either bunkhouses or YMCAs. (There are plans for several in the archives.) The question is….were they used by dining car staff? I suspect that was not common because dining cars were dropped and picked up by trains at various depots.

Ike

PS Here are two pages from the 7-31-57 dining car assignments.



On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:


> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?
 
While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.
- Bill



locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Robert W. Grabarek, Jr.
 

The white jacket was normal attire for coach attendants.

Bob Grabarek

-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Ellis via groups.io"
Sent: Mar 9, 2021 12:17 PM
To: "main@SouthernRailway.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Wonderful, thank you! 

 On my trip on the Southern from Washington to Atlanta and back in October of 1970, it seemed that even car attendants wore a white cotton 
jacket that looks like something a waiter would wear. Is that normal attire or was this person perhaps a member of the dining staff filling in for
the regular car attendant? 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 11:42:52 AM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


In addition to hotels, many cities and large railroad facilities had either bunkhouses or YMCAs. (There are plans for several in the archives.) The question is….were they used by dining car staff? I suspect that was not common because dining cars were dropped and picked up by trains at various depots.

Ike

PS Here are two pages from the 7-31-57 dining car assignments.



On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:


> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?
 
While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.
- Bill


locked Re: Sands And Company

George Eichelberger
 

Eeveryone:

To keep more Southern material from being “lost in history”, I’d like to invite everyone, SRHA members or not, to come to one of this year’s archives work sessions. (Of course, we want everyone on the list to be “members!”)

We don’t know when we will be able to schedule sessions but hope it will be possible this summer. The best way to know is to look at the SRHA web home page, www.srha.net, to check the dates. IF anyone is planning a trip to Chattanooga and TVRM and wants to either visit or work in the archives, send an email to archives@.... I cannot say for sure we can have someone there but it’s worth the try.

Ike


On Mar 9, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:

I am glad to see this.  For some time now I have been trying to find something on Sands & Co., with no luck.  I remember them in Knoxville in the mid 60's, and in '68 when I went to Bham as Switchman on the Frisco, I found the Sands at the East End of Terminal Station (small bldg), and bought a good Star Lantern and gloves there.  Apparently later events merged the two companies as Sands was found on the Western Lines as well.  But Sands seems to be lost in history, until now.  Thanks.


locked Re: Sands And Company

Stephen Warner
 

I am glad to see this.  For some time now I have been trying to find something on Sands & Co., with no luck.  I remember them in Knoxville in the mid 60's, and in '68 when I went to Bham as Switchman on the Frisco, I found the Sands at the East End of Terminal Station (small bldg), and bought a good Star Lantern and gloves there.  Apparently later events merged the two companies as Sands was found on the Western Lines as well.  But Sands seems to be lost in history, until now.  Thanks.


locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Steve Ellis
 

Wonderful, thank you! 

 On my trip on the Southern from Washington to Atlanta and back in October of 1970, it seemed that even car attendants wore a white cotton 
jacket that looks like something a waiter would wear. Is that normal attire or was this person perhaps a member of the dining staff filling in for
the regular car attendant? 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 11:42:52 AM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


In addition to hotels, many cities and large railroad facilities had either bunkhouses or YMCAs. (There are plans for several in the archives.) The question is….were they used by dining car staff? I suspect that was not common because dining cars were dropped and picked up by trains at various depots.

Ike

PS Here are two pages from the 7-31-57 dining car assignments.



On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:


> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?
 
While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.
- Bill


locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

George Eichelberger
 

In addition to hotels, many cities and large railroad facilities had either bunkhouses or YMCAs. (There are plans for several in the archives.) The question is….were they used by dining car staff? I suspect that was not common because dining cars were dropped and picked up by trains at various depots.

Ike

PS Here are two pages from the 7-31-57 dining car assignments.



On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:


> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?
 
While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.
- Bill


locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Steve Ellis
 

I was wondering if the Southern Railway ever housed any of their employees in a hotel for an overnight stay. I know that Amtrak does this. Here in New York City, one of the car attendants on the Crescent told me that he spends the night in a hotel right across the street from Penn Station.


Employees on American trains are not away from home nearly as much as those on the Russian trains. In 2010 I fulfilled a dream I’ve had from childhood and rode the Trans-Siberian railroad from Moscow to Vladivostok, a journey of seven days.


On YouTube you can watch a video of a lady who is an attendant on this train. Every time she leaves home it is for two weeks. The train does not have showers, and they do not get a hotel when they get to Vladivostok, sleeping in the train instead.


I spoke to one lady who said that she did two round trips and was away from home for a month.


Steve Ellis,
Brooklyn New York




On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Graves, William W <wwg@...> wrote:



> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?

 

While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.

- Bill


locked Re: Greensboro map was Re: [SouthernRailway] Dining Car Crews Sleeping on their Cars

Graves, William W
 

> Was this installation located on the military reservation shown on your Greensboro map?

 

While I did not recognize the picture, the Military Reservation shown on the map was definitely what was called the ORD section of Greensboro.  The picture could have been from the Pilot Life Campus that was mentioned in the wiki article as it had trees and while my time in Greensboro didn’t start until 1954, by then the ORD section was quite built up with small industrial buildings.

- Bill

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