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Re: The profile picture for the group

George Eichelberger
 

The “Jim Wrinn” photo room at the SRHA archives is “complete” but far from completely organized….help is wanted during any archives work session!

Next work session is July 15/16.

Ike



On Jul 3, 2022, at 11:35 AM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

That is neat, I’ll have to check some of those other slides out once the photo room is completed and then I will be able to see some of those photos.


Re: The profile picture for the group

Will Kesler
 

That is neat, I’ll have to check some of those other slides out once the photo room is completed and then I will be able to see some of those photos.


Re: The profile picture for the group

C J Wyatt
 

I think it is worth mentioning that sometime in the late forties as more diesel locomotives arrived, the division assignment was dropped from the cab side. That is the case with No. 1394. The remaining steam locomotives were freely moved around to places where they could run off their remaining time. That lead to certain classes of steam engines being seen in places where they did not go during regular steam operations. If the SRHA archives has any files about this, I am sure a good and interesting story could be done about the last years. If no one is interested, I will put it on my list, but the list is pretty long now, and I am not making much headway.

Jack Wyatt

On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 03:45:16 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


The cab photo of 1394 is a 35mm Kodachrome color slide (ASA 10) taken by David Driscoll at  Reidsville, NC 10-9-51.  SRHA acquired Driscoll’s B&W negative collection about 30 years ago. His slides came to SRHA with the (large and important) Marvin Black collection. (The parts of both collections SRHA purchased were funded by member donations. Note the subtle reference to the importance of DONATIONS to the SRHA archives!)

The train number is typically on a Driscoll negative or slide but not on the cab view of 1394. The name of the Engineer is not recorded but the Fireman is Mr. Floyd A. Frick.

His family furniture business was beside the Southern main line in Reidsville (thus many photos there). He kept his camera close so when a different engine stopped at the depot, he would go out and get a photo, usually with a post-card negative size camera and B&W film. Many of his photos of trains at the depot were of Train 11 pulled by Ps-4s. (The Driscoll collection has a number of “first” and “last” run photos.)

A loco on that train did not necessarily mean a permanent assignment, Spencer Shops would use the train to “break in” engines after class repairs. They would return to the shop for any necessary adjustments and then be sent to their assigned terminal or Division.

Because of that, on many of his photos, you can almost “smell the paint” that may have been applied the day or so before. He also took the opportunity to take detail photos during the station stops.

Ike

PS Tentative plans are for Doug Alexander to present a Ps-4 modeling and prototype clinic at the joint convention.

The following photo, also an undated Kodachrome ASA10 slide by David Driscoll showing Tr 11 passing through Reidsville, probably when he started shooting Kodachrome slides around 1950?



On Jul 2, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Is there any full version or other shots of the photo that is used in the profile picture for the group.io? It appears to be Ps-4 #1394 but is there any context on where this is? I know 1394 was around Spencer North Carolina and there are many pictures at Reidsville. Any context of the photo is appreciated.


Re: The profile picture for the group

George Eichelberger
 

The cab photo of 1394 is a 35mm Kodachrome color slide (ASA 10) taken by David Driscoll at  Reidsville, NC 10-9-51.  SRHA acquired Driscoll’s B&W negative collection about 30 years ago. His slides came to SRHA with the (large and important) Marvin Black collection. (The parts of both collections SRHA purchased were funded by member donations. Note the subtle reference to the importance of DONATIONS to the SRHA archives!)

The train number is typically on a Driscoll negative or slide but not on the cab view of 1394. The name of the Engineer is not recorded but the Fireman is Mr. Floyd A. Frick.

His family furniture business was beside the Southern main line in Reidsville (thus many photos there). He kept his camera close so when a different engine stopped at the depot, he would go out and get a photo, usually with a post-card negative size camera and B&W film. Many of his photos of trains at the depot were of Train 11 pulled by Ps-4s. (The Driscoll collection has a number of “first” and “last” run photos.)

A loco on that train did not necessarily mean a permanent assignment, Spencer Shops would use the train to “break in” engines after class repairs. They would return to the shop for any necessary adjustments and then be sent to their assigned terminal or Division.

Because of that, on many of his photos, you can almost “smell the paint” that may have been applied the day or so before. He also took the opportunity to take detail photos during the station stops.

Ike

PS Tentative plans are for Doug Alexander to present a Ps-4 modeling and prototype clinic at the joint convention.

The following photo, also an undated Kodachrome ASA10 slide by David Driscoll showing Tr 11 passing through Reidsville, probably when he started shooting Kodachrome slides around 1950?



On Jul 2, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Is there any full version or other shots of the photo that is used in the profile picture for the group.io? It appears to be Ps-4 #1394 but is there any context on where this is? I know 1394 was around Spencer North Carolina and there are many pictures at Reidsville. Any context of the photo is appreciated.


Re: The profile picture for the group

Will Kesler
 


The profile picture for the group

Will Kesler
 

Is there any full version or other shots of the photo that is used in the profile picture for the group.io? It appears to be Ps-4 #1394 but is there any context on where this is? I know 1394 was around Spencer North Carolina and there are many pictures at Reidsville. Any context of the photo is appreciated.


TIES magazine

Will Kesler
 

I think since I’ve recently joined it’s just a mix up but I also haven’t received the ties magazines from the 1st quarter of the year, I don’t know if since I joined in May if I don’t receive that one or not though. Another question, when should I expect to receive the new 2nd quarter of the magazine? I’ve heard it’s coming out soon. 


Re: Southern 542

George Eichelberger
 

In the SRHA digital files….

The 2-10-49 photo caption of (A&Y) 542 says “just in from Sanford, NC”. Other photos at Pomona (9-13-53 show it lettered “C&NW” for the State Fair.

Ike



On Jul 1, 2022, at 7:46 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Thanks guys but I was taking about in revenue service sorry for the misunderstanding. But anyways why was 542 at Pomona? I saw a picture in Pomona yard after being retired in 1954.


Re: Southern 542

Will Kesler
 

Thanks guys but I was taking about in revenue service sorry for the misunderstanding. But anyways why was 542 at Pomona? I saw a picture in Pomona yard after being retired in 1954.


Re: Southern 542

A&Y Dave in MD
 

http://southern-railway.railfan.net/ay/equipment/loco/ay542.htm

Scroll to bottom for images at Spencer.

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott's iPhone

On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Does anyone have any pictures of Southern 542 on their hands at the moment? I’m looking for picture of it at Spencer.


Re: Southern 542

O Fenton Wells
 

Here's one I took the day they  rolled it out of the shop at Spencer 


On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:34 PM Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:
Picture like this :



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Southern 542

John Willis
 


Re: Southern 542

George Eichelberger
 

SRHA has pictures of 542, but they are all at Pomona.

Ike

On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

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Re: Southern 542

Will Kesler
 

Picture like this :


Southern 542

Will Kesler
 

Does anyone have any pictures of Southern 542 on their hands at the moment? I’m looking for picture of it at Spencer.


"Outside Swing Hanger Six Wheel Trucks"

George Eichelberger
 

I’ve mentioned them enough, here a photo of the first of the two Outside Swing Hanger Six Wheel Trucks TVRM acquired to put under Southern Office Car 21. 
They are the same style that Southern used when it replaced the original Pullman, “Point Richmond”, trucks in the 60s. (I understand they were the last such pair built by General Steel Castings. The replacements that Southern put under OC-21 were sold by its previous owner after they bought NS-8 from Norfolk Southern. They are now under the business car the New Orleans Public Belt has for sale.)

With some luck, the car will be in service for the joint SRHA-L&NHS convention at TVRM 9-30/10-1.

Even with the roller bearing wheel sets, cash will help the project “move along”. I’m sure a donation from anyone to TVRM interesting preserving, operating (and riding in!) a Southern Railway “official car” would be appreciated and put to good use.

Ike



moderated Re: Southern Railway Bells

George Eichelberger
 

Will:

As you may be aware, TVRM is celebrating its 60th anniversary this year. In my opinion (I’m not an officer, only a member, certainly not speaking for the museum) it is the finest operating railroad museum in the Southeast. Three years ago, an eight year old, 9,000 sq. ft. building just across Turntable Road from the Grand Junction property came available, TVRM with help from SRHA members, acquired it as an archives facility and TVRM support building. (I’ve attached a photo). Recently, the Louisville & Nashville Historical Society upgraded another part of the facility and moved their archives from Bolling Green, KY. The L&NHS archives will be dedicated during the SRHA-L&NHS joint convention 9-30/10-1.

Early last year another (approx 10,000 sq. ft.) building came on the market, also adjacent to the TVRM Grand Junction property. Again, with help from SRHA, members, TVRM purchased it. It contains first class offices, conference room, a kitchen and a (est.) 5,000 sq. ft. exhibit area, all with modern lighting and HVAC equipment.

That building will, for the first time in 60 years, provide TVRM with a permanent indoor, all year, railroad museum. The building will be doubled in size and a two track train shed will provide cover for multiple pieces of TVRM locomotives and rolling stock.

As must be obvious, this will be an expensive multi year project. I have no doubt TVRM will accept ideas and assistance of any kind. Many of the joint convention clinics and RPM display area will be in the exhibit building with activities also at the archives, headquarters and Grand Junction depot (not to mention the Shop at East Chattanooga and TVRM trains)!

Join us at the convention, 10-30/11-1, any SRHA archives work session or whenever you can get to Chattanooga.

Ike





On Jun 26, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Could you tell me more about this exhibit and what’s it meant for?


moderated Re: Southern Railway Bells

Will Kesler
 

Could you tell me more about this exhibit and what’s it meant for?


moderated Re: Southern Railway Bells

George Eichelberger
 

If anyone has Southern items, such as bells, whistles, headlights station signs, etc., you might consider donating them to SRHA or TVRM to be used in the TVRM Exhibit building displays.  

At present, planning is mostly for the “brick and mortar” additions planned for the complex in addition to the existing 10,000 sq ft building. Those include an extension to the exhibit building, a new restroom “pod”, rolling stock display shed and turntable. (A roundhouse will follow.)

Individual inside and outside displays will be dedicated to the railroads of the Tennessee Valley, Pullman, express, mail and dining car services, car, diesel and steam loco components and models in several scales showing the development of rolling stock over the years. A feature will be Gen. J.D. Smith’s custom made, full HO size, Cumberland River bridge, approximately twelve feet from end to end. The bridge “kit” was constructed using Southern Railway plans provided to General Smith by Graham Claytor when they were both at the Pentagon.

If anyone would like to donate or assist, contact archives@... and we’ll make sure your information is forwarded.

Ike




On Jun 26, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Thank you for clarifying. There’s actually a bell at a school near me from a Southern Ks-1 #755 and there’s a house I’ve seen around with a southern bell mounted just in plain site. Hope it doesn’t get stolen but they weren’t selling as I remember.


moderated Re: 3d Kitbashing Showcasing

Will Kesler
 

In the game Kitbashing is using different model parts to make an engine basically exactly like how you with a real model.

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