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locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

C J Wyatt
 

Tim, I recall us talking about it years ago. If I remember, you had a lot of information on dispositions and my strength was the early Southern Railway passenger cars. I still would like to do something, but my research priorities are topics which have more general relevance. However I still get excited (like solving a puzzle) if I find out something new concerning cars from predecessor lines. We need to get someone with database expertise to help us get this thing set up.

Jack Wyatt

On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 11:22:47 AM EDT, TIM ANDREWS <andrewstim@...> wrote:


I also worked on an all time roster of Southern Railway passenger cars. my last print out came from dBase IV and is dated over twenty years ago.  It would seem that between the archives and some work done by individuals we should be able to take another stab at it using the tools that are available now.

On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 09:44:22 AM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:


Tim, thanks for finding the answer. Years ago when I was trying to create an all time roster of Southern Railway passenger cars, a similar renumbering incident, number 1367 in your list, bedeviled me. The original Southern 1367 was a coach built by Pullman in 1909. Therefore I refer to the excursion car as No. 1367 (2nd).

Jack Wyatt 

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 10:12:09 PM EDT, TIM ANDREWS <andrewstim@...> wrote:


From the SRHA archives today comes the following from the car maintenance record for car 3659 and dated 11/1/1966
Inline image

Using the diagram book from Another Man's Treasure we see that the car was originally 1632 which fits the series reported by Jack Wyatt.  According to Diagram 30-F-38 the car was built by Bethlehem 1924 was air conditioned in May of 1939 had Green Frieze Pat. 60 upholstery, the "8-3 interior color scheme and the tile #101 and 107 aisle stripe". It weighted 149,600 pounds.  From the diagram it had walk over seats and seated 72.  Although the date is not given on diagram 31-F-51 dated 12/7/48 the car received reclining seats and reconfigured restrooms and was renumbered 1083.  The seating was dropped to 48 seats.  26 cars received this conversion, some at Hayne and some at Chattanooga.

Seeing as how the seating was raised to 72 reclining seats and the restrooms were removed, we would assume that took place around 1966.

It is interesting to note that the 1058 on the list above is now at TVRM and still has the large restrooms and lower seating capacity.

I will keep digging through stuff and see what else I can find.


On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 05:18:23 PM EDT, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:


Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

TIM ANDREWS
 

I also worked on an all time roster of Southern Railway passenger cars. my last print out came from dBase IV and is dated over twenty years ago.  It would seem that between the archives and some work done by individuals we should be able to take another stab at it using the tools that are available now.

On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 09:44:22 AM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:


Tim, thanks for finding the answer. Years ago when I was trying to create an all time roster of Southern Railway passenger cars, a similar renumbering incident, number 1367 in your list, bedeviled me. The original Southern 1367 was a coach built by Pullman in 1909. Therefore I refer to the excursion car as No. 1367 (2nd).

Jack Wyatt 

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 10:12:09 PM EDT, TIM ANDREWS <andrewstim@...> wrote:


From the SRHA archives today comes the following from the car maintenance record for car 3659 and dated 11/1/1966
Inline image

Using the diagram book from Another Man's Treasure we see that the car was originally 1632 which fits the series reported by Jack Wyatt.  According to Diagram 30-F-38 the car was built by Bethlehem 1924 was air conditioned in May of 1939 had Green Frieze Pat. 60 upholstery, the "8-3 interior color scheme and the tile #101 and 107 aisle stripe". It weighted 149,600 pounds.  From the diagram it had walk over seats and seated 72.  Although the date is not given on diagram 31-F-51 dated 12/7/48 the car received reclining seats and reconfigured restrooms and was renumbered 1083.  The seating was dropped to 48 seats.  26 cars received this conversion, some at Hayne and some at Chattanooga.

Seeing as how the seating was raised to 72 reclining seats and the restrooms were removed, we would assume that took place around 1966.

It is interesting to note that the 1058 on the list above is now at TVRM and still has the large restrooms and lower seating capacity.

I will keep digging through stuff and see what else I can find.


On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 05:18:23 PM EDT, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:


Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

George Eichelberger
 

One of the possible projects for upcoming work sessions will be to go through boxes of “miscellaneous” document and either move them to individual car files, or, at least to scan them and put the digital versions in the same “folder” as the car file (not many of those have been scanned. As Hayne maintained the Southern’s passenger cars, official cars and cabs, there are individual files on them in the archives. Box cars, also maintained at Hayne, do not have individual car files.

Other possible work session projects include:
Reviewing, organizing and scanning the documentation, specifications and drawings (some very large) on all of the Southern’s lightweight passenger car orders from 1941.

The SRHA photo collections: There are thousands of negative and prints in the archives. Some are very well organized but other are not. The various collections, while maintaining each item’s provenance, need to be collated and organized. Now the same engine number, for example, may have different photos in various collections and may be filed in different places depending on the size of the negative or if it is a print. While we may not want to rearrange the negatives or prints, once the items are scanned we can organize the digital files to manke anything easier to find. (That applies to anything; drawing, document or photo.)

Note the SRHA archive includes many ACL, SAL, A&WP, GA, L&N etc. photos from the Roberts, Kimsey and Prince collections. The Kimsey collection contains hundreds of industrial and short line photos dating back to steam.

The industrial and short line negatives warrant their own book!

The archives will be open before noon on Thursday 6-17 through Saturday afternoon. If you are coming to help, please (!) send an email to archives@... so we can plan the various projects and work areas. We typically work until 7:00PM or so and will start by 8:00 on Friday and Saturday. TVRM is fully open.

Ike


On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:43 AM, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:

Tim, thanks for finding the answer. Years ago when I was trying to create an all time roster of Southern Railway passenger cars, a similar renumbering incident, number 1367 in your list, bedeviled me. The original Southern 1367 was a coach built by Pullman in 1909. Therefore I refer to the excursion car as No. 1367 (2nd).

Jack Wyatt 

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 10:12:09 PM EDT, TIM ANDREWS <andrewstim@...> wrote:


From the SRHA archives today comes the following from the car maintenance record for car 3659 and dated 11/1/1966
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Using the diagram book from Another Man's Treasure we see that the car was originally 1632 which fits the series reported by Jack Wyatt.  According to Diagram 30-F-38 the car was built by Bethlehem 1924 was air conditioned in May of 1939 had Green Frieze Pat. 60 upholstery, the "8-3 interior color scheme and the tile #101 and 107 aisle stripe". It weighted 149,600 pounds.  From the diagram it had walk over seats and seated 72.  Although the date is not given on diagram 31-F-51 dated 12/7/48 the car received reclining seats and reconfigured restrooms and was renumbered 1083.  The seating was dropped to 48 seats.  26 cars received this conversion, some at Hayne and some at Chattanooga.

Seeing as how the seating was raised to 72 reclining seats and the restrooms were removed, we would assume that took place around 1966.

It is interesting to note that the 1058 on the list above is now at TVRM and still has the large restrooms and lower seating capacity.

I will keep digging through stuff and see what else I can find.


On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 05:18:23 PM EDT, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:


Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.
<1622670693242blob.jpg>


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

TIM ANDREWS
 

We can get you a sample or current color formula for the Southern Green paint, along with the lettering, if it is decided to go with the Southern colors.

On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 10:10:08 AM EDT, Artist794 Workshop <artist794workshop@...> wrote:


All I can say is WOW and thank you so much everyone. This is amazing research work and I know myself and many of our crews appreciate it. 

First to answer an earlier post I just saw now. Yes, this car is now at the Valley Railroad ( Essex Steam Train & Riverboat) in Essex, CT. I myself, am both a employee of the railroad as a Trainmen and as a volunteer with their non profit associated group, The Friends of the Valley Railroad.  Our line acquired the car from Age of Steam Roundhouse along with two former Canadian National cars. While no plans have been announce, nor do I speak on behalf of the railroad company, the "Friends" have been working on it during our weekly shop night removing seats and the existing flooring for inspection of the steel under floor and start repairs. As of last night we have 3/4th of the flooring removed. (Many layers of tile, 3/4" plywood, insulation and 2x4s)  We found a few areas were the steel floor underneath is damaged and/or corroding away above the south truck/bathroom area. 

I did take a moment to look around the car and was able to find some metal marked "1632" so with that and the above post from Tim Andrews, I think its safe to say we have identified the car's original number. I also removed some of the flaking "Ohio Central" maroon paint and saw a darker green, almost black. Not sure if that is the correct colors for southern green or if its just a undercoat. I can also confirm there are no Bathrooms on the car but that might help explain the thinner sheets of metal we found at the south end. Could be patches over previous holes. Also on the south end there are 2 cabinets that seem to need a key to open. Without trying to force it too much we could not open them. 

Another confirmation I can make is that the 6 wheel trucks have "Bethlehem" cast into the frames. However the wheels are roller bearing so I'm not sure if these were upgraded during one of the renovations. 

Regardless Thank you all again for the help and please let me know if you find anything else.  The car seems like its going to be our pet project for the foreseeable future, so I can post updates here if any one is interested. While we are not sure what exactly the cars future hold, I'm hoping that this research can be used to help tell its story and help with restorations.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

Artist794 Workshop
 

All I can say is WOW and thank you so much everyone. This is amazing research work and I know myself and many of our crews appreciate it. 

First to answer an earlier post I just saw now. Yes, this car is now at the Valley Railroad ( Essex Steam Train & Riverboat) in Essex, CT. I myself, am both a employee of the railroad as a Trainmen and as a volunteer with their non profit associated group, The Friends of the Valley Railroad.  Our line acquired the car from Age of Steam Roundhouse along with two former Canadian National cars. While no plans have been announce, nor do I speak on behalf of the railroad company, the "Friends" have been working on it during our weekly shop night removing seats and the existing flooring for inspection of the steel under floor and start repairs. As of last night we have 3/4th of the flooring removed. (Many layers of tile, 3/4" plywood, insulation and 2x4s)  We found a few areas were the steel floor underneath is damaged and/or corroding away above the south truck/bathroom area. 

I did take a moment to look around the car and was able to find some metal marked "1632" so with that and the above post from Tim Andrews, I think its safe to say we have identified the car's original number. I also removed some of the flaking "Ohio Central" maroon paint and saw a darker green, almost black. Not sure if that is the correct colors for southern green or if its just a undercoat. I can also confirm there are no Bathrooms on the car but that might help explain the thinner sheets of metal we found at the south end. Could be patches over previous holes. Also on the south end there are 2 cabinets that seem to need a key to open. Without trying to force it too much we could not open them. 

Another confirmation I can make is that the 6 wheel trucks have "Bethlehem" cast into the frames. However the wheels are roller bearing so I'm not sure if these were upgraded during one of the renovations. 

Regardless Thank you all again for the help and please let me know if you find anything else.  The car seems like its going to be our pet project for the foreseeable future, so I can post updates here if any one is interested. While we are not sure what exactly the cars future hold, I'm hoping that this research can be used to help tell its story and help with restorations.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

C J Wyatt
 

Tim, thanks for finding the answer. Years ago when I was trying to create an all time roster of Southern Railway passenger cars, a similar renumbering incident, number 1367 in your list, bedeviled me. The original Southern 1367 was a coach built by Pullman in 1909. Therefore I refer to the excursion car as No. 1367 (2nd).

Jack Wyatt 

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 10:12:09 PM EDT, TIM ANDREWS <andrewstim@...> wrote:


From the SRHA archives today comes the following from the car maintenance record for car 3659 and dated 11/1/1966
Inline image

Using the diagram book from Another Man's Treasure we see that the car was originally 1632 which fits the series reported by Jack Wyatt.  According to Diagram 30-F-38 the car was built by Bethlehem 1924 was air conditioned in May of 1939 had Green Frieze Pat. 60 upholstery, the "8-3 interior color scheme and the tile #101 and 107 aisle stripe". It weighted 149,600 pounds.  From the diagram it had walk over seats and seated 72.  Although the date is not given on diagram 31-F-51 dated 12/7/48 the car received reclining seats and reconfigured restrooms and was renumbered 1083.  The seating was dropped to 48 seats.  26 cars received this conversion, some at Hayne and some at Chattanooga.

Seeing as how the seating was raised to 72 reclining seats and the restrooms were removed, we would assume that took place around 1966.

It is interesting to note that the 1058 on the list above is now at TVRM and still has the large restrooms and lower seating capacity.

I will keep digging through stuff and see what else I can find.


On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 05:18:23 PM EDT, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:


Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

TIM ANDREWS
 

From the SRHA archives today comes the following from the car maintenance record for car 3659 and dated 11/1/1966
Inline image

Using the diagram book from Another Man's Treasure we see that the car was originally 1632 which fits the series reported by Jack Wyatt.  According to Diagram 30-F-38 the car was built by Bethlehem 1924 was air conditioned in May of 1939 had Green Frieze Pat. 60 upholstery, the "8-3 interior color scheme and the tile #101 and 107 aisle stripe". It weighted 149,600 pounds.  From the diagram it had walk over seats and seated 72.  Although the date is not given on diagram 31-F-51 dated 12/7/48 the car received reclining seats and reconfigured restrooms and was renumbered 1083.  The seating was dropped to 48 seats.  26 cars received this conversion, some at Hayne and some at Chattanooga.

Seeing as how the seating was raised to 72 reclining seats and the restrooms were removed, we would assume that took place around 1966.

It is interesting to note that the 1058 on the list above is now at TVRM and still has the large restrooms and lower seating capacity.

I will keep digging through stuff and see what else I can find.


On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 05:18:23 PM EDT, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:


Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

C J Wyatt
 

Stephen, in the early 1960s Southern still had a few coaches with throw-over seats. I seem to remember catching one of them in a train between Chattanooga and Atlanta. Talk about a time warp!

Jack Wyatt

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 05:20:40 PM EDT, Stephen Warner <sgwarner88@...> wrote:


Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

Stephen Warner
 

Having rode these cars starting in 1960 all the way through the end of SR's scheduled service (on the Knoxville Division and CNO&TP), I can say that you have an "original" car interior, at least through the 1950's or so.  I also rode many of these cars that SR "upgraded" from the globe lights and steel overhead racks with newer streamline/modernized-type racks and fluorescent lighting (harsh and glaring at night).  I always felt that I was riding Southern back in the 30's in these cars (after all, it was still Timetable and train order operation back then), and tried to pick out one in the consist whenever I climbed on.  She will look great.


locked Re: Blank Wheel Report

Charles Powell
 

I don't remember them being referred to as LDX, just that you had to use red ink to fill them out.


locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

C J Wyatt
 

Chris,

Bethlehem Steel did build 25 coaches for Southern Railway System in 1924. They were numbered 1614-1633 and CNO&TP 3776-3780. The coaches generally got renumbered  when they were rebuilt with reclining seats and sometimes other improvements.  Perhaps you can find an original number on a part like Tim suggested. I haven't worked on old railroad passenger cars, but I seem to have in my mind that the electrical cabinet is another place to look for a number.

Thanks for helping in saving the car and good luck in finding its original number.

Jack Wyatt

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 11:37:52 AM EDT, Artist794 Workshop <artist794workshop@...> wrote:


Hello all,

Our volunteer organization as started its investigation of the car to see what needs to be addressed. Current plans are not finalized but I'm sure these inspections will tell weather or not the car can be renovated/restored. As of right now we are in the process of removing the seats and flooring in order to inspect/repair parts of the steel floor. While working we found a note listing the car to be built in 1924 by Bethlehem Steel. I'm not sure if this is correct but I thought it would be best to share it with the group if anyone happens to find its file on the archives night.  Any information on the car will be extremely helpful for not only its part in my history report but also in future restoration work.

Thank you for helping and taking the time to look into this cars life further.  I will try to attach a picture from our Wednesday night work sessions.

P.S. in case anyone is curious I am not sure, nor do I have a say, in if the car will be restored to its original Southern paint. Those are debates for another day, first we need to get the car up to working standards. 

Best,
 Chris Zygmunt 


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George Eichelberger
 

Memos referring to car 3659 are in the “Excursion Services” files dated 5-31-68, 8-1-70 and 3-9-79, so we know it was in use then.

Ike




On Jun 1, 2021, at 12:11 PM, TIM ANDREWS <ANDREWSTIM@...> wrote:

I assume this is follow up to the question from last week regarding the 3659, now at the Valley Railroad.

I was able to look at the maintenance card in the SRHA archives over the weekend and found the car in card file identified as "Railfan cars". The first entry is Date in 12/31/70 and Date out is 3/10-71.  The last entry is Date in 2/3/84 and Date out 4/25/84.  There is no other reference to renumbering, or changes to the car as there were on some other cars in the file.

In looking a the car diagram book for the mid 1940s I don't see this car number listed so I begin to wonder "what was the original car number and how did it get the new number in the late 1960s or by 12/31/70". I should also note that page 19 ends with 3626 (and two blank spaces) and page 20 starts with 3660 so there is no room for a 3659.

You might want to take down a couple of the luggage racks and see if the car number was stamped into the metal.  We found the number 1683 (although it was misinterpreted as 1688 which never existed) on our early Southern open window coach at TVRM.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 11:43:54 AM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Chris:

What is the car number, your organization and where is it?

Ike








locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

TIM ANDREWS
 

I assume this is follow up to the question from last week regarding the 3659, now at the Valley Railroad.

I was able to look at the maintenance card in the SRHA archives over the weekend and found the car in card file identified as "Railfan cars". The first entry is Date in 12/31/70 and Date out is 3/10-71.  The last entry is Date in 2/3/84 and Date out 4/25/84.  There is no other reference to renumbering, or changes to the car as there were on some other cars in the file.

In looking a the car diagram book for the mid 1940s I don't see this car number listed so I begin to wonder "what was the original car number and how did it get the new number in the late 1960s or by 12/31/70". I should also note that page 19 ends with 3626 (and two blank spaces) and page 20 starts with 3660 so there is no room for a 3659.

You might want to take down a couple of the luggage racks and see if the car number was stamped into the metal.  We found the number 1683 (although it was misinterpreted as 1688 which never existed) on our early Southern open window coach at TVRM.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 11:43:54 AM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Chris:

What is the car number, your organization and where is it?

Ike







locked Re: Question/Request for information on Ex-Southern Railway Heavyweight Coach

George Eichelberger
 

Chris:

What is the car number, your organization and where is it?

Ike


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Artist794 Workshop
 

Hello all,

Our volunteer organization as started its investigation of the car to see what needs to be addressed. Current plans are not finalized but I'm sure these inspections will tell weather or not the car can be renovated/restored. As of right now we are in the process of removing the seats and flooring in order to inspect/repair parts of the steel floor. While working we found a note listing the car to be built in 1924 by Bethlehem Steel. I'm not sure if this is correct but I thought it would be best to share it with the group if anyone happens to find its file on the archives night.  Any information on the car will be extremely helpful for not only its part in my history report but also in future restoration work.

Thank you for helping and taking the time to look into this cars life further.  I will try to attach a picture from our Wednesday night work sessions.

P.S. in case anyone is curious I am not sure, nor do I have a say, in if the car will be restored to its original Southern paint. Those are debates for another day, first we need to get the car up to working standards. 

Best,
 Chris Zygmunt 


locked Car Program List 1971-1984

George Eichelberger
 

For anyone interested in Southern Railway freight and passenger car maintenance and modifications 1971-1984, the nine pages now on Google Drive are the “key” to helping get the SRHA archives Mechanical Dept files organized and to do research.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dsgnKCH7Ht_IkJGMHAi7EtJaWrdftcRR?usp=sharing

We need to find/verify which of these files we have, get them organized on to shelves or boxes and scanned if they are of general interest.

As you may have seen on Carl Ardrey’s notice, we do plan to have an archives work session the third weekend of this month (and every month). If anyone would like to come, please follow Carl’s recommendation about Covid vaccinations and masks AND let us know (archives@...) if you plan to be there.

Ike


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Bill Schafer
 

And you were required to use LDX pens for these reports? Interesting. Do you know of any other departments or reports (other than switch lists and waybill headers) that required the use of LDX pens?

Thanks.

—Bill

On May 31, 2021, at 20:30, Charles Powell <charlesspowell@...> wrote:

Bill,
They were mailed to the Car Department office at 99 Spring St. There a small group of clerks reviewed them for errors that might cause problems such as a missing reporting mark or faint markings. Then they went somewhere in the Atlanta buildings for scanning.
Charlie


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Charles Powell
 

Bill,
They were mailed to the Car Department office at 99 Spring St. There a small group of clerks reviewed them for errors that might cause problems such as a missing reporting mark or faint markings. Then they went somewhere in the Atlanta buildings for scanning.
Charlie


locked Alexandria, VA Call Sheet -

Rob Wingo
 

Southern Call Office Sheet, 1981.

Have you ever seen a Southern RR Call Office sheet? I never had except when I was a kid and went with my dad to the call office on a weekend and saw it on the agents desk. I took a photo of the one I have as the sheet is very large blotter size. The incredible providence is father-son engineers, L.A. Brown, Jr and his son Wayne Brown were notified that the call office had been abandoned, in early 1982 most likely when it was moving to Manassas, and they went to it and found these call sheets just lying on the floor. They picked them up. Just before Wayne Brown retired he passed them off, literally off a moving freight in Faber, VA to a son, Russell North, of a former conductor AC North. He notice my posts on Facebook and messaged me that we could meet and I could have some as my dad K.H. Wingo had been an engineer and contemporary of his dad. It’s fortunate that 1981 was the year of my graduation from college and the claiming by my dad of the Amtrak Crescent in Dec-81, which he was engineer until his retirement in 1983. It was all detailed as my dad called in sick for the graduation weekend and you can see where he claimed and then was assigned to the Crescent after CW Mattox retired. So many familiar names from the past. It was all a complex choreographed dance, dependent on seniority and hours of service laws among many factors, all detailed on this sheet. I am still studying them and it is fascinating.  Some of the notes are good also, as one note said a person had called from jail and didn't know if he would make it on time.

Is there any interest in scans or photos of these for an archive?  Too bad they are only for 1981. 

Does anyone have a photo of a call board?  I remember the board was tiny cubicles that a small wooded rectangular peg with the person's name on it, kinda replicating the call sheet.  The board could be viewed from the employee side through glass and the call agent on the business side.  Employees could then look and see what jobs who had and everything.



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Bill Schafer
 

Thanks, Charlie,

How were the reports submitted? Did they get sent somewhere by LDX machine or fax?

—Bill

On May 29, 2021, at 18:47, Charles Powell <charlesspowell@...> wrote:

Bill,
The Mechanical Department used them to fill out the car repair billing forms used to report the repairs made to cars on the RIP tracks. 
Charlie

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