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Kevin Centers
 

Southern Railway-we’ll be the last friends to let you down?

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:15 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

 Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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Dave Queener
 

Diversification into the funeral industry?

DQ

On 10/29/2021 3:15 PM, George Eichelberger wrote:
Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike

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Kevin Centers
 

Livestock deaths?

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:15 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

 Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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George Eichelberger
 

Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


locked Gaithersburg Railroadianna Train/Transportation show - November 5-6-7, 2021

Cohen Bob
 

Back again after a one-year absence .................

For the first time in TWO years, the Gaithersburg Railroadianna show will be held at the Montgomery County, Maryland fairgrounds on November 5-6-7; Friday-Saturday-Sunday. Yes, it will cost you more to get in Friday and Saturday if you want to "cherry-pick" the goodies FIRST, but if you are an advanced collector or interested individual, it can easily be worth it with one big yummy deal.

I suppose most of the usual suspects will be in attendance including several railroad historical societies. In the recent past years, the B&O, C&O, Southern, SAL/ACL, NRHS, R&LHS and a few other railroad historical societies have been there with their goodies. The N&W is also supposed to make an appearance and if so, they will likely have their newly revised 6-1-1 book available for sale and perhaps some other treasures just in time for the holiday season.

Railroad China is also there and if the RR made it or issued it, it's likely to be there in one form or era or another.

Books, magazines, videos, builder's plates, timetables, annual reports, photographs all all sorts, what have you and the list goes on and on. There is also usually other transportation material from steamships and aircraft as well.

If you only want to attend Sunday, which is the general public day, the admission cost is about $10 and those hours are 9-4.

No football sports should be conflicting as the Washington Football team has their bye week then.

So guys, this is your reminder to get your "honey-do" list up to date this weekend and get ready for the following weekend.

Hope to see you there.


Bob Cohen



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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Paul


On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:57 PM Paul Schmidt <pschmidt3013@...> wrote:
Well done, Fenton!
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Paul Schmidt
 

Well done, Fenton!
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Sequim WA


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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Donnie


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:20 PM Donnie Dixon <rf4cnam@...> wrote:

Beautiful work Fenton. Absolutely gorgeous

Donnie

 



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George Eichelberger
 

Shouldn't this topic be on "ModelingTheSouthern.io"?

Ike


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Donnie Dixon
 

Beautiful work Fenton. Absolutely gorgeous

Donnie

 


locked Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

Curtis Brookshire
 

re, the lettering difference: The 1941 Tennessean and Southerner equipment came from Pullman. Maybe Budd submitted a different font due to competition with Pullman? I've read somewhere that there was some bad blood between the manufacturers that came from Pullman shutting Budd out of building streamlined sleepers when the ATSF ordered cars for the Super Chief in the 1930s.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


locked Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

Gino:

Thanks for the info!

As a dedicated “Mac” user, I typically am not aware of issues like this…the Mac simply “handles” this stuff.

Ike

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Gino Damen <g.damen@quarter105.nl> wrote:

Hi,

It is the type of attachment who is the problem. On the average PC TIFF images can be viewed. On a lot of mobile device the included imageviewer can not parse TIFF files.

Even the fact that you currently attached a file with the extension .JPEG can cause problems because the extension .JPEG isn't always registered correctly.

The safest option is always post images saved in JPEG-format and with the extension JPG (not JPEG although the file self is exactly the same).

Greetings,

Gino Damen


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Gino Damen
 

Hi,

It is the type of attachment who is the problem. On the average PC TIFF images can be viewed. On a lot of mobile device the included imageviewer can not parse TIFF files.

Even the fact that you currently attached a file with the extension .JPEG can cause problems because the extension .JPEG isn't always registered correctly.

The safest option is always post images saved in JPEG-format and with the extension JPG (not JPEG although the file self is exactly the same).

Greetings,

Gino Damen

20 okt. 2021 15:12:41 George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...>:

Arrgh! Some folks can see them, others cannot…here’s an attached jpeg.

Ike



On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, aramsay18 <aramsay37@...> wrote:

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
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aramsay18
 

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
--
-Evan Whatley


locked Re: [ModelingTheSouthern] Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
--
-Evan Whatley


locked Budd LtWt Pass Car Stencil Drawing - 1948

George Eichelberger
 

This past SRHA archives work session at TVRM was very productive. The new scanner is in service and producing excellent scans. (One Pullman letter board drawing was 26 ft long!)

As is typical, we always find “surprises”. Here is an example, Budd drawing B74-07760 Exterior Signs and Letter boards 7-13-1948…(Notice anything unusual about the lettering?)

Ike




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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Barry
Fenton 


On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Barry Kimble <southernry@...> wrote:


Fenton,
Well done!
Barry

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos
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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Gipson much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:06 PM, gipson.philip via groups.io <gipson.philip@...> wrote:

Very nice!


On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos
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Barry Kimble
 

Fenton,
Well done!
Barry

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos


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gipson.philip
 

Very nice!


On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos
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