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Charles Powell
 

Looks like the drawing dates to the 1890s. Railroads hauled a lot of livestock in those days and eventually those stock cars would end up with a lot of you know what on the floors. Maybe this was where the livestock waste was disposed? Just guessing. I looked in online dictionaries to see if crematory or cremation had earlier uses and most places defined them connected with disposal of bodies. One of the sites did show cremate as a synonym for incineration in general. 

Charlie Powell


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Robert Hanson
 

Southern Railway - Service You Can't Refuse


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From: George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Oct 29, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Today's Question

Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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C J Wyatt
 

Perhaps for animals killed by its trains.

Jack Wyatt

On Friday, October 29, 2021, 03:15:53 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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Kevin Centers
 

Southern Railway-we’ll be the last friends to let you down?

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:15 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

 Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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Dave Queener
 

Diversification into the funeral industry?

DQ

On 10/29/2021 3:15 PM, George Eichelberger wrote:
Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike

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Kevin Centers
 

Livestock deaths?

On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:15 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

 Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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George Eichelberger
 

Two questions for the attached drawing…

A.) why would the Southern have such a facility?

B.) how many were there and where were they?

Ike


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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Paul


On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:57 PM Paul Schmidt <pschmidt3013@...> wrote:
Well done, Fenton!
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Paul Schmidt
 

Well done, Fenton!
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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Donnie


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:20 PM Donnie Dixon <rf4cnam@...> wrote:

Beautiful work Fenton. Absolutely gorgeous

Donnie

 



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George Eichelberger
 

Shouldn't this topic be on "ModelingTheSouthern.io"?

Ike


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Donnie Dixon
 

Beautiful work Fenton. Absolutely gorgeous

Donnie

 


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Curtis Brookshire
 

re, the lettering difference: The 1941 Tennessean and Southerner equipment came from Pullman. Maybe Budd submitted a different font due to competition with Pullman? I've read somewhere that there was some bad blood between the manufacturers that came from Pullman shutting Budd out of building streamlined sleepers when the ATSF ordered cars for the Super Chief in the 1930s.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


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George Eichelberger
 

Gino:

Thanks for the info!

As a dedicated “Mac” user, I typically am not aware of issues like this…the Mac simply “handles” this stuff.

Ike

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Gino Damen <g.damen@...> wrote:

Hi,

It is the type of attachment who is the problem. On the average PC TIFF images can be viewed. On a lot of mobile device the included imageviewer can not parse TIFF files.

Even the fact that you currently attached a file with the extension .JPEG can cause problems because the extension .JPEG isn't always registered correctly.

The safest option is always post images saved in JPEG-format and with the extension JPG (not JPEG although the file self is exactly the same).

Greetings,

Gino Damen


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Gino Damen
 

Hi,

It is the type of attachment who is the problem. On the average PC TIFF images can be viewed. On a lot of mobile device the included imageviewer can not parse TIFF files.

Even the fact that you currently attached a file with the extension .JPEG can cause problems because the extension .JPEG isn't always registered correctly.

The safest option is always post images saved in JPEG-format and with the extension JPG (not JPEG although the file self is exactly the same).

Greetings,

Gino Damen

20 okt. 2021 15:12:41 George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...>:

Arrgh! Some folks can see them, others cannot…here’s an attached jpeg.

Ike



On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, aramsay18 <aramsay37@...> wrote:

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
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aramsay18
 

Hello Ike - the drawing/picture didn't come through in your original email.

Thanks

Regards from Berryville VA
Andy Ramsay

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
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-Evan Whatley


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George Eichelberger
 

Evan:

I assume you could see the drawing so I won’t re-send….

In the late 1940s and 50s, all of the passenger car builders were very active in marketing their designs to the Southern. Sometimes we see unsolicited proposals, other times preliminary drawings that were changed before the cars were built. This particular drawing is part of a large group produced for the “Royal Palm” and “Crescent” orders in ’48. (Southern was the “lead” in ordering cars for all of the roads that purchased equipment for those trains; NYC, SR, PRR, L&N, A&WP and FEC so there are many drawings of their cars in the files.

As the Southern’s 1941 “Southerner” and “Tennesseean” cars used the new passenger lettering, I wonder why Budd did not follow that example in ’48? Obviously, no cars were lettered this way!

Ike

PS Here’s a Southern Railway trivia question. Where did the 1941 passenger car lettering come from?



On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Evan Whatley <Evan.w.what@...> wrote:

Ike- The image didn't attach correctly, but you got me on pins and needles wondering what changed? Did Budd propose Roman script on their car order?
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-Evan Whatley


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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Barry
Fenton 


On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Barry Kimble <southernry@...> wrote:


Fenton,
Well done!
Barry

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos
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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Gipson much appreciated 
Fenton 


On Oct 19, 2021, at 5:06 PM, gipson.philip via groups.io <gipson.philip@...> wrote:

Very nice!


On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos
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Barry Kimble
 

Fenton,
Well done!
Barry

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Sorry I forgot to add the photos

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