James,

When it could cover the past and the present it would be great.

Gino Damen

The Netherlands

On 15-12-2019 at 05:08, James Walton <whovianwil@...> wrote:

Yes, I was hoping a forum covering the South as a whole would be a good idea.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 23:07 Ryan Harris <ryan.harris@...> wrote:

Are you talking about a forum for modeling railroads of the southern US and not just the Southern Railway? If so I think that would be a good idea.
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Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TX

Ed,

Glad Jason explained what took place. I had an article published by the Bristol Herald Courier that gave more details of the Texas duties.

Mike Pierry, Jr.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 9:03 PM Jason Greene <jason.p.greene@...> wrote:

Building at Grant park is gone. It is now the Safari exhibit of the zoo. 

The cyclorama was restored and is now at the history center too. It is in a two story building to the left of the Texas in the picture posted earlier. The Texas and a future exhibit on the 1996 Olympics are between the main museum and the new cyclorama building. 

Jason Greene 

On Sep 29, 2019, at 8:44 PM, Edwin Locklin <elocklin@...> wrote:

MIke,

 

I wonder why they didn’t return this locomotive back to the basement of the Cyclorama building in Grant Park.

 

Ed Locklin at mp367.

 

 

 

 

From: Mike Pierry, Jr.

Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:45 PM

To: main@southernrailway.groups.io

Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Southeastern Railway Museum

 

Jason is technically correct. The display was however,

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designed to make viewing the locomotive possible without entering the building.

I attach my photo from earlier this year.

 

Mike Pierry, Jr.

 

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 9:05 PM Jason Greene <jason.p.greene@...> wrote:

Actually, it is inside the museum. You can see it from the outside.

Jason Greene

On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Mike Pierry, Jr. <mpierryjr@...> wrote:

Have you considered visiting the Texas? It is displayed behind glass on the outside of the History Museum in Buckhead.

 

Mike Pierry, Jr.

 

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 4:49 PM David Friedlander <davidjfriedlander@...> wrote:

Hey all,

I am visiting Atlanta for a few days next week and on Thursday, I am planning to make a trip for the first time to the Southeastern Railway Museum in Duluth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Railway_Museum

I plan to see everything thats publicly open, but is there anything I should make sure I don't miss?

If I have extra time, does anyone need any photos or measurements of anything at the museum?

Thanks,
David Friedlander

I've enjoyed the info as well.  This is probably the one Southern mainline I know the least about.  I don't recall ever seeing an article about it in the railfan press (Trains, R&R, CTC Board, etc).  

I drove along the line from Mt. Vernon to Louisville last year on a rainy Sunday.  Only saw one intermodal train.  The engine shed at Huntingburg is still there.  Most of the line is very tree'd in so it would be easy to miss a train.  And southern Indiana is quite hilly so the line is quite curvy.  West of Princeton it's rather flat with lots of long tangents.

I was surprised to find a small grain elevator at Golden Gate, Illinois which had a single grain hopper spotted.  I gather they ship single carloads to packagers of bird seed.

Hopefully I can make another drive along that line in better weather and catch more trains.

Scott Chatfield

Are you talking about a forum for modeling railroads of the southern US and not just the Southern Railway? If so I think that would be a good idea.
--
Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TX

James,
As others have mentioned the Ms class Mikes were used on the branches and at least from Huntingburg to Princeton on the main line as Princeton was the main shop for that division. One of those Ms Mikes that ended its SR career in 1948 at Princeton was 4501. As far as road switchers the Fairbanks Morse H16-44s which arrived in 1950 & 1951, were initially used on the St. Louis line. On my one visit in the 80s to Huntingburg yard I was surprised by the fair sized steel,  two track locomotive shop building. Most small outlying Southern locations after steam had lost their roundhouses and only had engine service tracks and no shop buildings. The General Foreman told me that when the FMs first arrived the plan was to keep them on that division and the shop was set up for that purpose. In just a few years Southern switched to concentrating all of the road locomotive maintenance inspections at Chattanooga and Atlanta and the FMs migrated away.

I donated to the SRHA archives a set of bound volumes of "Ties" that I inherited from my parents. They covered from around 1948 to 1955. I recall at least one photo of a train with H16-44s identified as being in Indiana in one of those magazines. 
Charlie Powell

The service pre-dated SCL, the tank cars were originally stenciled to return to Rockland on the ACL. Note attached photo of Sou 341 stored at the food terminal in Chattanooga, the “ACL” stencil is quite visible.

Also note the car has a full center sill, a feature of the ACF cars, the GATX cars were frameless.

The cars were rubber lined to carry phosphoric acid. The lining was a maintenance problem, particularly when men went inside the tank to clean out sludge…..using a pick and shovel….duh!

Ike

On Dec 13, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Justin May <westpointroute@...> wrote:

Here is a useful website documenting Rockland. It was an old mine from the 1920s and finally shut down in 1994. These shipments would have also been handled by SCL locally prior to 1983.

https://mrdata.usgs.gov/mrds/show-mrds.php?dep_id=10240937

http://www.sulphuric-acid.com/sulphuric-acid-on-the-web/acid%20plants/US%20Agri-Chemicals%20-%20Fort%20Meade.htm

Rockland Mine was located north along State Road 630 West and east of CR555 in Ft. Meade, Florida (3225 State Road 630 West).

The mine was a property of U.S. Agri Chemical and was a Phosphoric Acid plant after playing out the phosphate deposit.

Justin May

On Dec 13, 2019, at 18:21, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

Marv:

There was a full article on these cars in TIES magazine a few years ago. Someone needs to help find which issue.

It has always been unusual for any railroad to own revenue tank cars. There were two groups of 100T capy cars blt by ACF and GATX, painted Southern freight car brown. They were in captive service between Rockland, FL and Vertagreen, near Sheffield, AL. (Rockland was east of Mulberry, FL off SR 60). I lived in Sarasota and Brandon at the time so I was able to photograph them parked beside the highway quite often.

The attached photo of Sou 323 was taken at Chattanooga 8-93 long after the Vertagreen service ended. They could not be used to ship flammable materials (like diesel fuel) so they were used to store used oil at Citico (and probably other shops).

Ike

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On Dec 13, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Marv Clemons <mclemonsjr@...> wrote:

Back in the mid-60s Southern routinely handled several tank cars of Vertagreen liquid fertilizer on the rear of Nos 7 & 8, the KC-Florida Special, between Brunswick GA and Birmingham AL.  Does anyone know the history of these cars, more specifically the points of origin and destination?

Thanks,
Marv Clemons