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Re: Southern Passenger Train Discontinuances - 1966
HI folks
Interesting story and documentation, albeit sad if you love passenger trains
John
John R Stewart
www.bhamrails.info
205-901-3790
HI folks
Interesting story and documentation, albeit sad if you love passenger trains
John
John R Stewart
www.bhamrails.info
205-901-3790
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Re: Southern Passenger Train Discontinuances - 1966
Marv,
If you've read Fred Frailey's book, Twilight of the Great Trains, you know that some of the trains Brosnan was in such a sweat to get rid of were actually profitable. Some maybe only marginally
Marv,
If you've read Fred Frailey's book, Twilight of the Great Trains, you know that some of the trains Brosnan was in such a sweat to get rid of were actually profitable. Some maybe only marginally
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Robert Hanson
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Re: Southern Passenger Train Discontinuances - 1966
A facinating, behind-the-scenes look at Graham Claytor's rationale and tactics for the wholesale removal of remnant passenger trains in the mid-60s. Those were indeed miserable times for both train
A facinating, behind-the-scenes look at Graham Claytor's rationale and tactics for the wholesale removal of remnant passenger trains in the mid-60s. Those were indeed miserable times for both train
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Re: Southern Passenger Train Discontinuances - 1966
I don't have the exact date, but sometime around the time of this memo, Southern helped to finish off No. 35 from Chattanooga to Memphis, by scheduling No. 17 to arrive Chattanooga ten minutes after
I don't have the exact date, but sometime around the time of this memo, Southern helped to finish off No. 35 from Chattanooga to Memphis, by scheduling No. 17 to arrive Chattanooga ten minutes after
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Southern Passenger Train Discontinuances - 1966
During the mid 1960s, the Southern made a concerted effort to eliminate as many passenger trains as possible.
While many people would assume it was mostly the work of D.W. Brosnan, his “man behind
During the mid 1960s, the Southern made a concerted effort to eliminate as many passenger trains as possible.
While many people would assume it was mostly the work of D.W. Brosnan, his “man behind
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Re: Iron Ore trains from.... and 1985 titanium ore train - 04.27.85
Mark:
We allow attachments on both the “SouthernRailway” and “ModelingThe Southern” groups. The time will probably come when we get to the limit of allowed storage and some items will have to
Mark:
We allow attachments on both the “SouthernRailway” and “ModelingThe Southern” groups. The time will probably come when we get to the limit of allowed storage and some items will have to
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Re: Iron Ore trains from.... and 1985 titanium ore train - 04.27.85
Not sure if the io.groups site will strip attachments or not, but attached is one scan of the
train, at Mitchell VA. on April 27,1985.
I saw & photographed him first at the Route 29 o/p at Culpepper,
Not sure if the io.groups site will strip attachments or not, but attached is one scan of the
train, at Mitchell VA. on April 27,1985.
I saw & photographed him first at the Route 29 o/p at Culpepper,
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
John Stewart:
It has been a long time. For instance I said the ore moved on 154. Actually, by that time the Mobile trains were renumbered 183-184. Yes, 184 was filled out to the tonnage limit with
John Stewart:
It has been a long time. For instance I said the ore moved on 154. Actually, by that time the Mobile trains were renumbered 183-184. Yes, 184 was filled out to the tonnage limit with
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Re: Iron Ore trains from.... and 1985 titanium ore train(s)
Hi folks
Neat story. Got a picture?
John
John R Stewart
www.bhamrails.info
205-901-3790
Hi folks
Neat story. Got a picture?
John
John R Stewart
www.bhamrails.info
205-901-3790
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John Stewart
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Re: Iron Ore trains from.... and 1985 titanium ore train(s)
And in late April, 1985, on a cloudy day, I chased & photographed Southern titanium ore train south of Charlottesville, with all D&H hoppers, which I'm 99% certain originated at the
mine at Tahawus
And in late April, 1985, on a cloudy day, I chased & photographed Southern titanium ore train south of Charlottesville, with all D&H hoppers, which I'm 99% certain originated at the
mine at Tahawus
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NYC Heavyweight Sleepers on the Ponce DeLeon?
We received an interesting question from John Horvath (NYCHS) about a group of Pullman Plan 3979A (8-1-2) sleepers assigned to the Ponce DeLeon. While we continue to look through the photos in the
We received an interesting question from John Horvath (NYCHS) about a group of Pullman Plan 3979A (8-1-2) sleepers assigned to the Ponce DeLeon. While we continue to look through the photos in the
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
Hi John Hedrick
Thanks very much for this information – interesting.
So, it sounds like these car loads were used to “fill out train tonnage”. That is, if Train 156 had room for more
Hi John Hedrick
Thanks very much for this information – interesting.
So, it sounds like these car loads were used to “fill out train tonnage”. That is, if Train 156 had room for more
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John Stewart
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
Mobile ore movements. I was Trainmaster at Mobile 1970-71. Best I can recall, we moved both red ore and some pellet ore at that time. At one point, some pellet ore moved in Big Red coal hoppers
Mobile ore movements. I was Trainmaster at Mobile 1970-71. Best I can recall, we moved both red ore and some pellet ore at that time. At one point, some pellet ore moved in Big Red coal hoppers
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John Hedrick
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
Hi All,
Thanks again Ike and all for the very good information.
I am coming to believe that these cars likely were in service “demand” – i.e., were needed for their original use until at
Hi All,
Thanks again Ike and all for the very good information.
I am coming to believe that these cars likely were in service “demand” – i.e., were needed for their original use until at
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John Stewart
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
Note that the cars on either side are 2bay 100ton aggregate hoppers.
Note that the cars on either side are 2bay 100ton aggregate hoppers.
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
John:
The attached SR memo is in no way conclusive that the Southern’s ore cars were still in that service in 1970. But….spending $52,000 to repair 20 sixteen year old 1,629 cu ft hopper cars
John:
The attached SR memo is in no way conclusive that the Southern’s ore cars were still in that service in 1970. But….spending $52,000 to repair 20 sixteen year old 1,629 cu ft hopper cars
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
HI again folks
Regarding the movements, Mike Burns notes that L&N hauls for Republic were “added on to the rear of the trains” from Montgomery to Birmingham, when he ran for L&N.
I believe
HI again folks
Regarding the movements, Mike Burns notes that L&N hauls for Republic were “added on to the rear of the trains” from Montgomery to Birmingham, when he ran for L&N.
I believe
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John Stewart
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
Hi folks
THANKS! I am still getting used to this group as it is a little different than the JMRI group.io that I belong to. I didn’t post attachments, but apparently attachments here are OK.
Hi folks
THANKS! I am still getting used to this group as it is a little different than the JMRI group.io that I belong to. I didn’t post attachments, but apparently attachments here are OK.
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
When I was stationed in Selma, Ala., 1972-1973, I would see these cars come through Selma occasionally. They looked much different from the new aggregate cars then arriving on the property. When I
When I was stationed in Selma, Ala., 1972-1973, I would see these cars come through Selma occasionally. They looked much different from the new aggregate cars then arriving on the property. When I
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Re: Iron Ore trains from Port of Mobile to Tn Coal & Iron (TCI) Birmingham, AL
The Southern “ore cars” were 100T three-bay cars (Southern 100000-100249 built by P-S in 1954 (note the date) under Program F-117 as their Lot No. 8127-3. At only 36’ over strikers, the cars
The Southern “ore cars” were 100T three-bay cars (Southern 100000-100249 built by P-S in 1954 (note the date) under Program F-117 as their Lot No. 8127-3. At only 36’ over strikers, the cars
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George Eichelberger
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