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Ike,
Turntables were typically accounted for in ICC 20.
Kevin
Ike,
Turntables were typically accounted for in ICC 20.
Kevin
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Thanks Barry, that was my recall too, but I could not find it. Southern Rails was not the easiest publication to find something in.
Maybe I should try again (in the morning after my <pot of>
Thanks Barry, that was my recall too, but I could not find it. Southern Rails was not the easiest publication to find something in.
Maybe I should try again (in the morning after my <pot of>
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Jack:
The Val section data for Brunswick would include any turntable info through the years, although I do not know which ICC account that would be shown under (turntables are not shown separately,
Jack:
The Val section data for Brunswick would include any turntable info through the years, although I do not know which ICC account that would be shown under (turntables are not shown separately,
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
As I recall, a few issues after Southern Rails #28 was an update with a couple more “Black Beauty” pictures. I don’t have my Southern Rails available to check which issue had them, but I will
As I recall, a few issues after Southern Rails #28 was an update with a couple more “Black Beauty” pictures. I don’t have my Southern Rails available to check which issue had them, but I will
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
The 99 ships built at Brunswick during WWII probably accounted for some tonnage. Naval Air Station Glynco was a big blimp base, so I guess that quite a bit of helium was used there,
I am curious what
The 99 ships built at Brunswick during WWII probably accounted for some tonnage. Naval Air Station Glynco was a big blimp base, so I guess that quite a bit of helium was used there,
I am curious what
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Jack:
No doubt you are correct but I cannot find anything in the archives (that we have scanned) to provide more information about SR Mountains to Jesup. There must be something, so we’ll keep
Jack:
No doubt you are correct but I cannot find anything in the archives (that we have scanned) to provide more information about SR Mountains to Jesup. There must be something, so we’ll keep
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Tonnage ratings south of Macon are pretty high as grades are negligible being below the fall line.
CEA
Tonnage ratings south of Macon are pretty high as grades are negligible being below the fall line.
CEA
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike, we are talking about Ts class engines painted black used for a limited time on a pair of freight trains between Macon and Jesup which ran at night. Interestingly, the black paint on former
Ike, we are talking about Ts class engines painted black used for a limited time on a pair of freight trains between Macon and Jesup which ran at night. Interestingly, the black paint on former
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Jack:
Check out the article on Jesup that ran in TIES. Note the photos of the engines at Jesup….no 4-8-2s! Would it be logical to run a Ts to Jesup, cut it off and exchange it for a Pacific for the
Jack:
Check out the article on Jesup that ran in TIES. Note the photos of the engines at Jesup….no 4-8-2s! Would it be logical to run a Ts to Jesup, cut it off and exchange it for a Pacific for the
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George Eichelberger
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Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Does anyone have a handle on how Southern numbered their combination cars and day coaches at the turn of the century? Pullman Sleepers, I know, had names.
Also, is anyone aware of any diagrams the
Does anyone have a handle on how Southern numbered their combination cars and day coaches at the turn of the century? Pullman Sleepers, I know, had names.
Also, is anyone aware of any diagrams the
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike,
Macon -Brunswick got upgraded circa WWII. The May 12, 1946 Atlanta Division ETT shows 314,800 lbs. total weight 4-8-2 Mountain engines being allowed.
Jack Wyatt
Ike,
Macon -Brunswick got upgraded circa WWII. The May 12, 1946 Atlanta Division ETT shows 314,800 lbs. total weight 4-8-2 Mountain engines being allowed.
Jack Wyatt
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
The Southern had to use its Atlantics (4-4-2) then light Pacifics on the Brunswick line south of Macon because of the track. The Atlanta-Jacksonville train that ran on the Coast Line from Jesup
The Southern had to use its Atlantics (4-4-2) then light Pacifics on the Brunswick line south of Macon because of the track. The Atlanta-Jacksonville train that ran on the Coast Line from Jesup
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
OK, found it. Southern Rails, issue No. 28, Spring,1990, page 4. Article was actually by Shelby F. Lowe and is titled "Black Beauties.
Engines were nos. 1453, 1454, and 1466, all pictured. Intended
OK, found it. Southern Rails, issue No. 28, Spring,1990, page 4. Article was actually by Shelby F. Lowe and is titled "Black Beauties.
Engines were nos. 1453, 1454, and 1466, all pictured. Intended
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Did the black 4-8-2s have a signal line and steam connector on their tender or just a signal line (and brake pipe connection)on the front? If not they were in freight service only.
Ed Mims
Did the black 4-8-2s have a signal line and steam connector on their tender or just a signal line (and brake pipe connection)on the front? If not they were in freight service only.
Ed Mims
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Ed Mims
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Bill,
Oscar Kimsey wrote about them in one of the issues of SRHS's Southern Rails. I think it was four or five Ts class engines in total. I don't remember whether a Ts-1 got the black treatment. If I
Bill,
Oscar Kimsey wrote about them in one of the issues of SRHS's Southern Rails. I think it was four or five Ts class engines in total. I don't remember whether a Ts-1 got the black treatment. If I
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Great, Rick. Thanks.
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Bill Schafer
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ben Robert's told me there were 3..Some where I have the pictures he gave me. Ill try to find them.
Rick
Ben Robert's told me there were 3..Some where I have the pictures he gave me. Ill try to find them.
Rick
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rwbrv4
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Bill,
Shelby Lowe once told me that these along with several Pacifics and switchers painted in this scheme with "Southern" on the tender sides rather than the large numerals were used in passenger
Bill,
Shelby Lowe once told me that these along with several Pacifics and switchers painted in this scheme with "Southern" on the tender sides rather than the large numerals were used in passenger
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Don Yelverton
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Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
In the SRHA Archives, we have photographs of at least two Ts-class Mountains, 1453 and 1454, in black paint with dog houses on the tender decks. These are the only two 4-8-2s I know of that got the
In the SRHA Archives, we have photographs of at least two Ts-class Mountains, 1453 and 1454, in black paint with dog houses on the tender decks. These are the only two 4-8-2s I know of that got the
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SRHA Archives Work Session Cancelled
The SRHA archives work session for 18-19 September 2020 has been cancelled, due to continuing threat of Covid-19
Jim Thurston
The SRHA archives work session for 18-19 September 2020 has been cancelled, due to continuing threat of Covid-19
Jim Thurston
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Jim Thurston
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