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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Ike,
I believe that the Buhoup vestibule was a wide vestibule design. The vestibule in your drawing of the Southern Railway coach is a Pullman narrow. See attached. Pullman narrow vestibules were
Ike,
I believe that the Buhoup vestibule was a wide vestibule design. The vestibule in your drawing of the Southern Railway coach is a Pullman narrow. See attached. Pullman narrow vestibules were
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
When the Vestibule Limited was wrecked at Bluff City, Tennessee in October 1894, two coaches were destroyed. Southern Railway ordered two coaches from Pullman on an expedited basis using spec's from
When the Vestibule Limited was wrecked at Bluff City, Tennessee in October 1894, two coaches were destroyed. Southern Railway ordered two coaches from Pullman on an expedited basis using spec's from
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Joel:
Another good subject for research!
The only thing I can say for sure about “smoking rooms” is that they were only in the “gents” end of the car during this time period. I expect that
Joel:
Another good subject for research!
The only thing I can say for sure about “smoking rooms” is that they were only in the “gents” end of the car during this time period. I expect that
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Railway Mail Service on SR April 1949 vs April 1950
Sunday’s quick trip to the archives produced a Presidents’ file on the Railway Mail Service I've not seen before. The file is only post-war data but appears to show increasing mail traffic, and
Sunday’s quick trip to the archives produced a Presidents’ file on the Railway Mail Service I've not seen before. The file is only post-war data but appears to show increasing mail traffic, and
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Ike,
Question about the P and B car. I noticed in the diagram that there is a smoking room. If the car was also serving as 2nd class accommodations, was smoking only allowed in the smoking room?
Ike,
Question about the P and B car. I noticed in the diagram that there is a smoking room. If the car was also serving as 2nd class accommodations, was smoking only allowed in the smoking room?
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Joel Walker
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Joel:
I’m sure the drawing is representative of Southern “combines” of the period but it should not be associated with any specific order or car numbers without more research.
When I first
Joel:
I’m sure the drawing is representative of Southern “combines” of the period but it should not be associated with any specific order or car numbers without more research.
When I first
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Ike,
Thanks for the scans. The diagram, especially, is useful.
Joel
Ike,
Thanks for the scans. The diagram, especially, is useful.
Joel
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Joel Walker
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Joel,
Thank you for sharing that information. Interesting project!
The annual report for fiscal year 1900 ending June 30, 1900 shows 9 passenger cars being retired that year which should include
Joel,
Thank you for sharing that information. Interesting project!
The annual report for fiscal year 1900 ending June 30, 1900 shows 9 passenger cars being retired that year which should include
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C J Wyatt
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Speaking of turntables
This may be too wide of a question but would appreciate input on the length of the bridges on the various Southern turntables just prior to dieselization in the early 1950s.
Thanks
Allen Cain
This may be too wide of a question but would appreciate input on the length of the bridges on the various Southern turntables just prior to dieselization in the early 1950s.
Thanks
Allen Cain
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Since Jack asked, I'm not modeling a 1900 Southern train but am working on a book (historical fiction) built around the Camp Creek wreck north of McDonough, Georgia in June of 1900. I have found
Since Jack asked, I'm not modeling a 1900 Southern train but am working on a book (historical fiction) built around the Camp Creek wreck north of McDonough, Georgia in June of 1900. I have found
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Joel Walker
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Ike,
the combined baggage - coach cars continued into the 600 series.
As I already posted, the new first class coaches started at 1200. Southern did have an order from Pullman in early 1901 which
Ike,
the combined baggage - coach cars continued into the 600 series.
As I already posted, the new first class coaches started at 1200. Southern did have an order from Pullman in early 1901 which
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Joel,
Look at this site for a source of early Southern Rwy. passenger car diagrams:
http://southern.railfan.net/
Select "Southern Documents", next "Passenger and Business Car Diagrams", and finally
Joel,
Look at this site for a source of early Southern Rwy. passenger car diagrams:
http://southern.railfan.net/
Select "Southern Documents", next "Passenger and Business Car Diagrams", and finally
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Sorry for the delay responding, this is not a simple answer
I have not located a high quality scanned version of a turn of the century Southern coach floor plan. For a stand-in, I’ve attached a
Sorry for the delay responding, this is not a simple answer
I have not located a high quality scanned version of a turn of the century Southern coach floor plan. For a stand-in, I’ve attached a
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike,
Whereas I agree that many of the lower level ICC accounts aren’t very interesting (replace 100# rail with 110# rail), many of them list the tracks they are related to. So many times you can
Ike,
Whereas I agree that many of the lower level ICC accounts aren’t very interesting (replace 100# rail with 110# rail), many of them list the tracks they are related to. So many times you can
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Jack,
Your information was exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks.
Joel
Jack,
Your information was exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks.
Joel
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Joel Walker
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Jason,
Thanks for the information. Off the top of your head, would you know what record group the drawings are in. If you don't, I have a copy of the finding aids that I can browse and get an idea
Jason,
Thanks for the information. Off the top of your head, would you know what record group the drawings are in. If you don't, I have a copy of the finding aids that I can browse and get an idea
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Joel Walker
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Kev:
Thanks..that’s my guess but the Athens, GA Acct 20 example didn’t include a turntable. I think (!) Frank Greene and I scanned all of the summaries but we have to remember, they only cover
Kev:
Thanks..that’s my guess but the Athens, GA Acct 20 example didn’t include a turntable. I think (!) Frank Greene and I scanned all of the summaries but we have to remember, they only cover
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Joel,
The original renumbering from the predecessor roads had combination passenger and baggage cars in the 500-560 series.
Second class passenger coaches (some of which did not last much longer)
Joel,
The original renumbering from the predecessor roads had combination passenger and baggage cars in the 500-560 series.
Second class passenger coaches (some of which did not last much longer)
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
The Archives have some drawing from pre-Southern equipment as well as some of the first Southern drawings from the turn of the century.
Jason Greene
The Archives have some drawing from pre-Southern equipment as well as some of the first Southern drawings from the turn of the century.
Jason Greene
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Jason Greene
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
There are 2 pictures in the center fold of Issue 31 of "Southern Rails" Winter 1990/1991(from 1926) of Ps-4s still in black livery with stripping. One on the Queen and Crescent Limited and the other
There are 2 pictures in the center fold of Issue 31 of "Southern Rails" Winter 1990/1991(from 1926) of Ps-4s still in black livery with stripping. One on the Queen and Crescent Limited and the other
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