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Three days a week beyond Atlanta to New Orleans

One of my most poignant memories from my childhood was, right after high school, I took a trip from where I grew up in New Brunswick Canada to Atlanta. I had dreamed about going to Georgia for years,

By Steve Ellis · #1484 ·

Southern Passenger Trains at WUT

All: Here is a cross posting from the Passenger Car LIst. It is a good example of the kind of material found in the Southern Railway Presidents' Files collection in the SRHA Archives. Ike From the

By George Eichelberger · #1473 ·

Re: Jim Crow in Alabama

:My personal opinion is that some items are great as "teasers" which can inspire interest in the subject matter. But when it comes to meat and potatoes, I agree with Rick, one should be a member of

By Matt Bumgarner <tarheelpress@...> · #1468 ·

Re: Jim Crow in Alabama

These items are historically priceless. I feel that if I have enough interest to request items then I should be a member of the organization. The benefits of being a member is getting the "history"

By rwbrv4 · #1464 ·

Re: original passenger car color

In 1916, Charlie Soderstrom joined UPS and selected brown for their uniforms and delivery vehicles. He chose a hue of brown that was similar to “the color used on Pullman rail cars because the color

By William L Vanderburg · #1461 ·

Re: original passenger car color

Jack Pullman ( or "Brewster") Green came into use in February 1900;.The old Pullman colour was indeed a dark brown - UPS brown is officially described as "Pullman Brown" so that gives you an idea of

By Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton · #1460 ·

Re: original passenger car color

Thanks Matt, I had heard the UPS story and that took place in 1916. Dublin said that Pullman started developing its green in 1900. Maybe it took ten years to evolve. Brown sounds good to me. Now if

By C J Wyatt · #1459 ·

Re: original passenger car color

At the SE Narrow Gauge & Shortline Museum, we have been restoring an 1899 narrow gauge baggage car from the WV Midland Rwy. We found the original specs from the Jackson & Sharpe records, and the

By Matt Bumgarner <tarheelpress@...> · #1458 ·

original passenger car color

I assumed that the Southern Railway System's first passenger car color was similar to Pullman Green. Indeed, in a contract dated May 3, 1895 with Pullman Palace Car Company for new passenger cars, the

By C J Wyatt · #1457 ·

Jim Crow in Alabama

One of the “passenger train” files I found in the President’s Files in the archives this past Sunday (Box 509A, File 7) was only about passenger segregation 1945-1950. The SouthernRailway.io

By George Eichelberger · #1456 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Ike, I believe that the Buhoup vestibule was a wide vestibule design. The vestibule in your drawing of the Southern Railway coach is a Pullman narrow. See attached. Pullman narrow vestibules were

By C J Wyatt · #1453 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

When the Vestibule Limited was wrecked at Bluff City, Tennessee in October 1894, two coaches were destroyed. Southern Railway ordered two coaches from Pullman on an expedited basis using spec's from

By C J Wyatt · #1452 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Joel: Another good subject for research! The only thing I can say for sure about “smoking rooms” is that they were only in the “gents” end of the car during this time period. I expect that

By George Eichelberger · #1451 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Ike, Question about the P and B car. I noticed in the diagram that there is a smoking room. If the car was also serving as 2nd class accommodations, was smoking only allowed in the smoking room?

By Joel Walker · #1449 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Joel: I’m sure the drawing is representative of Southern “combines” of the period but it should not be associated with any specific order or car numbers without more research. When I first

By George Eichelberger · #1448 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Ike, Thanks for the scans. The diagram, especially, is useful. Joel

By Joel Walker · #1447 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Joel, Thank you for sharing that information. Interesting project! The annual report for fiscal year 1900 ending June 30, 1900 shows 9 passenger cars being retired that year which should include

By C J Wyatt · #1446 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Since Jack asked, I'm not modeling a 1900 Southern train but am working on a book (historical fiction) built around the Camp Creek wreck north of McDonough, Georgia in June of 1900. I have found

By Joel Walker · #1444 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Ike, the combined baggage - coach cars continued into the 600 series. As I already posted, the new first class coaches started at 1200. Southern did have an order from Pullman in early 1901 which

By C J Wyatt · #1443 ·

Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock

Joel, Look at this site for a source of early Southern Rwy. passenger car diagrams: http://southern.railfan.net/ Select "Southern Documents", next "Passenger and Business Car Diagrams", and finally

By C J Wyatt · #1442 ·

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