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Try this out. It’s a rough drawing I just drew up for you.
Frisco to and from Memphis to the North.
IC came in on trackage rights on Frisco.
Southern to Columbus, MS (old Georgia Pacific) and
Try this out. It’s a rough drawing I just drew up for you.
Frisco to and from Memphis to the North.
IC came in on trackage rights on Frisco.
Southern to Columbus, MS (old Georgia Pacific) and
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Re: Birmingham Terminal Station - how was it accessed by various railroads
AGS crews (south end) backed in and backed out at terminal station. East End crews (and AGS North) headed in and headed out.
CEA
AGS crews (south end) backed in and backed out at terminal station. East End crews (and AGS North) headed in and headed out.
CEA
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Re: Birmingham Terminal Station - how was it accessed by various railroads
Ike, I don't think that I need to look at the contracts. I just am hoping that someone who spent time around there who can tell me how the trains got in and out.
Jack
Ike, I don't think that I need to look at the contracts. I just am hoping that someone who spent time around there who can tell me how the trains got in and out.
Jack
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Re: Birmingham Terminal Station - how was it accessed by various railroads
Jack:
Another possibility..
Contract 1123?
Places like Birmingham can create a lot of documentation because most contracts were bi-lateral even though multiple railroads were all in the same
Jack:
Another possibility..
Contract 1123?
Places like Birmingham can create a lot of documentation because most contracts were bi-lateral even though multiple railroads were all in the same
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Re: Birmingham Terminal Station - how was it accessed by various railroads
Jack:
There are quite a few contracts, and Presidents’ files on Birmingham Term Sta. I cannot quote their contents but Contract No 632 (we have more than 1,100) may have what you are looking
Jack:
There are quite a few contracts, and Presidents’ files on Birmingham Term Sta. I cannot quote their contents but Contract No 632 (we have more than 1,100) may have what you are looking
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Birmingham Terminal Station - how was it accessed by various railroads
I am curious how the through passenger train services accessed Birmingham Terminal Station. For instance, for the SLSF - Southern services, I would think that Frisco arrived and departed the north end
I am curious how the through passenger train services accessed Birmingham Terminal Station. For instance, for the SLSF - Southern services, I would think that Frisco arrived and departed the north end
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Re: Entering Card Lists in Spreadsheets
Dave:
Ignore the Hayes posting! It will have no effect on what we are doing.
Ike
Dave:
Ignore the Hayes posting! It will have no effect on what we are doing.
Ike
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Re: Entering Card Lists in Spreadsheets
What does this mean for next steps?
I completed a version of flats 1-27. But was not hearing how to coordinate.
What next?
Dave
Sent from Dave Bott's iPhone
What does this mean for next steps?
I completed a version of flats 1-27. But was not hearing how to coordinate.
What next?
Dave
Sent from Dave Bott's iPhone
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Re: Norris Yard start and completion dates
The re-construction of Inman is interesting because it was such a large project that involved a lot of rock and earth moving in addition to the construction of the welded rail and turnout plants. To
The re-construction of Inman is interesting because it was such a large project that involved a lot of rock and earth moving in addition to the construction of the welded rail and turnout plants. To
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Re: Norris Yard start and completion dates
Thanks Ike,
That early picture is interesting.
I agree that the construction of Norris Yard, and the rebuilding of Inman Yard would be interesting topics. I seem to recall that Inman had tracks added
Thanks Ike,
That early picture is interesting.
I agree that the construction of Norris Yard, and the rebuilding of Inman Yard would be interesting topics. I seem to recall that Inman had tracks added
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Re: Norris Yard start and completion dates
Jack:
There is a large file on Norris Yard in the archives (the Norris track layout is a 45MB file). There, and Inman’s reconstruction are would be good articles in TIES.
There is also quite a bit
Jack:
There is a large file on Norris Yard in the archives (the Norris track layout is a 45MB file). There, and Inman’s reconstruction are would be good articles in TIES.
There is also quite a bit
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Norris Yard start and completion dates
I have some aerial photos showing the grading for Norris Yard at Irondale AL east of Birmingham.
I am curious what the timeframe for the construction of Norris Yard was.
Appreciate it!
Jack Wyatt
I have some aerial photos showing the grading for Norris Yard at Irondale AL east of Birmingham.
I am curious what the timeframe for the construction of Norris Yard was.
Appreciate it!
Jack Wyatt
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Re: CTC on the Atlanta-Bham line
I don't know the exact date, but CTC was installed on the AGS between Burstall and Meridian shortly before the infamous head-on collision at Woodstock, AL occurred in November, 1951.
Marv Clemons
I don't know the exact date, but CTC was installed on the AGS between Burstall and Meridian shortly before the infamous head-on collision at Woodstock, AL occurred in November, 1951.
Marv Clemons
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Re: CTC on the Atlanta-Bham line
> I realize now I should asked when TT&TO was done away with, rather than when CTC was implemented.
TT&TO wasn't done away with until it was replaced by either CTC or Track Warrant Control, and that
> I realize now I should asked when TT&TO was done away with, rather than when CTC was implemented.
TT&TO wasn't done away with until it was replaced by either CTC or Track Warrant Control, and that
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Re: CTC on the Atlanta-Bham line
Thanks. I don't think either of those CTC installations took place before the end of WWII, and probably did not occur at least until the 1950s.
I don't see CTC in my April 26, 1948 AGS employee
Thanks. I don't think either of those CTC installations took place before the end of WWII, and probably did not occur at least until the 1950s.
I don't see CTC in my April 26, 1948 AGS employee
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Re: CTC on the Atlanta-Bham line
I understand that the south end of the AGS (Birmingham - Meridian) was an early CTC installation.
Parts of the Atlanta-Birmingham line were remote control territory, both ends and Anniston, AL, while
I understand that the south end of the AGS (Birmingham - Meridian) was an early CTC installation.
Parts of the Atlanta-Birmingham line were remote control territory, both ends and Anniston, AL, while
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1950-10-1 Mail and Express Cars out of Washington in ONE day
For anyone interested in Express and mail services on Southern passenger trains, this memo from Harry DeButts to Ernest Norris may be interesting.
I have mentioned how reduction in passenger schedules
For anyone interested in Express and mail services on Southern passenger trains, this memo from Harry DeButts to Ernest Norris may be interesting.
I have mentioned how reduction in passenger schedules
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Entering Card Lists in Spreadsheets
Ike-
I'm interesting in joining this effort as well. Might be worthwhile to use Google Drive to host the sheets?
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-Evan Whatley
Ike-
I'm interesting in joining this effort as well. Might be worthwhile to use Google Drive to host the sheets?
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-Evan Whatley
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Re: CTC on the Atlanta-Bham line
What really got Southern into CTC big time was the elimination of double-track on parts of the CNO&TO and then the Mainline between Atlanta GA and Alexandria VA
I do wonder if its first installation
What really got Southern into CTC big time was the elimination of double-track on parts of the CNO&TO and then the Mainline between Atlanta GA and Alexandria VA
I do wonder if its first installation
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Re: CTC on the Atlanta-Bham line
Train orders and timetable schedules were phased out in late '80's/early '90's in favor of track warrant control.
CEA
Train orders and timetable schedules were phased out in late '80's/early '90's in favor of track warrant control.
CEA
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