Ike, I love learning info like the “F-unit parts car” you describe, so I’m glad the books will be including these kinds of details! As for the split, I would definitely consider the GP30s second

In the for what its worth and late to the party department...... I think we are talking about two different generation definitions, one on Southern and one at EMD. To Southern the "third

This is a superb conversation! How about we say “page count and cost” MoL answers the question?….for now anyway, stay tuned. Ike

Bill mentions another interesting point about Southern (EMD) diesels, trade-ins on first generation units. IN 1960, EMD realized many units were simply getting older and needing replacement but they

Just my two cents worth..... Outside of the "Southern Railway themed social media" groups, it seems that the "first generation" ended with the GP30/GP35/SD35 and the "second generation" began with the

Thanks Bill. Actually, FT retirement started in earnest during the 1958 Recession, so you can say that the SD-24's replaced FT's.   I like your approach. Jack

Josh: You mention a very interesting point about running EMD and F-M units together. Researching the different MU configurations, I did not realize how many combinations there were, and how

Gentlemen, I agree with Mr. Blevins. This issue came up with a toy train company I was working with to build some pilot models, and the demarcation point was the pressurized

I’m not a modeler or a mechanical taxonomist; just a simple train watcher, but the question to me seems to be what is a first generation unit and what is a second generation unit. To my mind, a

Really splitting hairs and getting into semantics on the division between 1st and 2nd generation. Some sources, like Jack here, put the split between turbo and non-turbo. This doesn't work for ALCOs

Some of the books that i have on different topics had 4 volumes done on signal boxes in nsw here in australia and they came in around 400 odd pages. Other books to do with the coal fields of the

Speaking of the Hickory depots, I noticed that the train order signal appears to have moved over time. One picture in the article with both freight and passenger depots visible shows a semaphore

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:26:31 PM EST, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote: << Jack: I agree with the “hodgepodge” issue but there are strong linkages between

Jack: Two and one is plan at this point. I’m not sure one Volume will do justice to the butt heads tho’. As with the the cab diesels, we have a lot of data on the conversion from steam to diesel.

Yes turbo's. The GP-20, which Southern did not take, was EMD's initial 4-axle second generation diesel. Regardless of page count, the SD-24's logically belongs in the second book. How would it work

Jack: Good points! The SD-24s had turbos, and were functionally similar to GP-30s As the SD-24s date to 1959 and the GP-30s were introduced in ’62 (with new pressurized engine rooms, etc.), I

I agree with Jack the SD-24 is a good break point Fenton -- Fenton Wells 250 Frye Rd Pinehurst NC 28374 910-420-8106 srrfan1401@...

Ike: I think you are spot on. It should be broken down into 1st Gen and 2nd Gen Diesel Locomotives and then you could do a more comprehensive review of each group while keeping everyone wanting

Ike, I agree with chronological, but perhaps the break should between first and second generation. I consider the SD-24 as the beginning of the second generation. Such a break would probably suit the

The “Southern Road Switchers” book draft is much too large to print in one volume (167 pages with much more “modern” material yet to be included. The 400-500 scans several folks are helping me