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Ike,
Macon -Brunswick got upgraded circa WWII. The May 12, 1946 Atlanta Division ETT shows 314,800 lbs. total weight 4-8-2 Mountain engines being allowed.
Jack Wyatt
Ike,
Macon -Brunswick got upgraded circa WWII. The May 12, 1946 Atlanta Division ETT shows 314,800 lbs. total weight 4-8-2 Mountain engines being allowed.
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The Southern had to use its Atlantics (4-4-2) then light Pacifics on the Brunswick line south of Macon because of the track. The Atlanta-Jacksonville train that ran on the Coast Line from Jesup
The Southern had to use its Atlantics (4-4-2) then light Pacifics on the Brunswick line south of Macon because of the track. The Atlanta-Jacksonville train that ran on the Coast Line from Jesup
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OK, found it. Southern Rails, issue No. 28, Spring,1990, page 4. Article was actually by Shelby F. Lowe and is titled "Black Beauties.
Engines were nos. 1453, 1454, and 1466, all pictured. Intended
OK, found it. Southern Rails, issue No. 28, Spring,1990, page 4. Article was actually by Shelby F. Lowe and is titled "Black Beauties.
Engines were nos. 1453, 1454, and 1466, all pictured. Intended
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Did the black 4-8-2s have a signal line and steam connector on their tender or just a signal line (and brake pipe connection)on the front? If not they were in freight service only.
Ed Mims
Did the black 4-8-2s have a signal line and steam connector on their tender or just a signal line (and brake pipe connection)on the front? If not they were in freight service only.
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Bill,
Oscar Kimsey wrote about them in one of the issues of SRHS's Southern Rails. I think it was four or five Ts class engines in total. I don't remember whether a Ts-1 got the black treatment. If I
Bill,
Oscar Kimsey wrote about them in one of the issues of SRHS's Southern Rails. I think it was four or five Ts class engines in total. I don't remember whether a Ts-1 got the black treatment. If I
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Great, Rick. Thanks.
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ben Robert's told me there were 3..Some where I have the pictures he gave me. Ill try to find them.
Rick
Ben Robert's told me there were 3..Some where I have the pictures he gave me. Ill try to find them.
Rick
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Bill,
Shelby Lowe once told me that these along with several Pacifics and switchers painted in this scheme with "Southern" on the tender sides rather than the large numerals were used in passenger
Bill,
Shelby Lowe once told me that these along with several Pacifics and switchers painted in this scheme with "Southern" on the tender sides rather than the large numerals were used in passenger
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Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
In the SRHA Archives, we have photographs of at least two Ts-class Mountains, 1453 and 1454, in black paint with dog houses on the tender decks. These are the only two 4-8-2s I know of that got the
In the SRHA Archives, we have photographs of at least two Ts-class Mountains, 1453 and 1454, in black paint with dog houses on the tender decks. These are the only two 4-8-2s I know of that got the
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
I grew up next to the K&0 line west of Knoxville in the early 60s and remember the boxcars with no doors. The lime was piled in bulk in each end of the car. Seemed like it was seasonal as in early
I grew up next to the K&0 line west of Knoxville in the early 60s and remember the boxcars with no doors. The lime was piled in bulk in each end of the car. Seemed like it was seasonal as in early
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
Central of Georgia Pulpwood Cars (Box Cars)
CG converted approx 1300 36 ft Vent Box cars to Pulpwood rack cars in 1953=/-Information on the conversion is featured in the Jan-Mar 2007 issue of The
Central of Georgia Pulpwood Cars (Box Cars)
CG converted approx 1300 36 ft Vent Box cars to Pulpwood rack cars in 1953=/-Information on the conversion is featured in the Jan-Mar 2007 issue of The
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Regarding the early pulpwood rack conversions I was wrong on my first dates. Here is a spreadsheet from my pulpwood clinic
Southern Ry Pulpwood Racks - Flat car conversions Car No.
Regarding the early pulpwood rack conversions I was wrong on my first dates. Here is a spreadsheet from my pulpwood clinic
Southern Ry Pulpwood Racks - Flat car conversions Car No.
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No description on the way the lime was contained. No idea if it was bulk or bagged.
Dave
Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone
No description on the way the lime was contained. No idea if it was bulk or bagged.
Dave
Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
Ike I think lots of modelers would. From what I’ve found SR started building pulpwood racks from the 115XXX, 117XXX flat cars in the 1920’s. By the late 1940’s and 1950’s I doubt much SR
Ike I think lots of modelers would. From what I’ve found SR started building pulpwood racks from the 115XXX, 117XXX flat cars in the 1920’s. By the late 1940’s and 1950’s I doubt much SR
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
Dave:
Do the switch lists describe if the lime is bagged? I don’t think we’d see off-line cars on the Southern in bulk lime service? Does anyone know….would box cars without doors be accepted in
Dave:
Do the switch lists describe if the lime is bagged? I don’t think we’d see off-line cars on the Southern in bulk lime service? Does anyone know….would box cars without doors be accepted in
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
Fenton:
Could you provide a Google link for photos showing SOUTHERN box cars handling pulpwood? Loading pulpwood in box cars and gondolas in the Northeast and Upper midwest has been pretty well
Fenton:
Could you provide a Google link for photos showing SOUTHERN box cars handling pulpwood? Loading pulpwood in box cars and gondolas in the Northeast and Upper midwest has been pretty well
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
Hello, list.
Thanks for the replies, photos, and train lists. As a note, in both the CG and S&A employee timetables, there is note with two different weights for pulpwood. One is the weight loaded in
Hello, list.
Thanks for the replies, photos, and train lists. As a note, in both the CG and S&A employee timetables, there is note with two different weights for pulpwood. One is the weight loaded in
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
Ike,
Here is the list of cars transporting Lime in 1934 on the W-S division (notes on car type are based upon car number from Al Brown's first try and are preliminary and not guaranteed, tons are
Ike,
Here is the list of cars transporting Lime in 1934 on the W-S division (notes on car type are based upon car number from Al Brown's first try and are preliminary and not guaranteed, tons are
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
If you google pulpwood you will see many boxcars loaded with pulpwood like attached.
Fenton
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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...
If you google pulpwood you will see many boxcars loaded with pulpwood like attached.
Fenton
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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...
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Re: Pulpwood and Line In Boxcars
The Official Railroad Equipment Register's of the 1970's and possibly prior to then, specifically denotes cars assigned to "tankage" or "hide" service.
Samuel Smith
The Official Railroad Equipment Register's of the 1970's and possibly prior to then, specifically denotes cars assigned to "tankage" or "hide" service.
Samuel Smith
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