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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Sorry for the delay responding, this is not a simple answer
I have not located a high quality scanned version of a turn of the century Southern coach floor plan. For a stand-in, I’ve attached a
Sorry for the delay responding, this is not a simple answer
I have not located a high quality scanned version of a turn of the century Southern coach floor plan. For a stand-in, I’ve attached a
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike,
Whereas I agree that many of the lower level ICC accounts aren’t very interesting (replace 100# rail with 110# rail), many of them list the tracks they are related to. So many times you can
Ike,
Whereas I agree that many of the lower level ICC accounts aren’t very interesting (replace 100# rail with 110# rail), many of them list the tracks they are related to. So many times you can
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Kevin Centers
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Jack,
Your information was exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks.
Joel
Jack,
Your information was exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks.
Joel
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Joel Walker
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Jason,
Thanks for the information. Off the top of your head, would you know what record group the drawings are in. If you don't, I have a copy of the finding aids that I can browse and get an idea
Jason,
Thanks for the information. Off the top of your head, would you know what record group the drawings are in. If you don't, I have a copy of the finding aids that I can browse and get an idea
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Joel Walker
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Kev:
Thanks..that’s my guess but the Athens, GA Acct 20 example didn’t include a turntable. I think (!) Frank Greene and I scanned all of the summaries but we have to remember, they only cover
Kev:
Thanks..that’s my guess but the Athens, GA Acct 20 example didn’t include a turntable. I think (!) Frank Greene and I scanned all of the summaries but we have to remember, they only cover
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Joel,
The original renumbering from the predecessor roads had combination passenger and baggage cars in the 500-560 series.
Second class passenger coaches (some of which did not last much longer)
Joel,
The original renumbering from the predecessor roads had combination passenger and baggage cars in the 500-560 series.
Second class passenger coaches (some of which did not last much longer)
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
The Archives have some drawing from pre-Southern equipment as well as some of the first Southern drawings from the turn of the century.
Jason Greene
The Archives have some drawing from pre-Southern equipment as well as some of the first Southern drawings from the turn of the century.
Jason Greene
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Jason Greene
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
There are 2 pictures in the center fold of Issue 31 of "Southern Rails" Winter 1990/1991(from 1926) of Ps-4s still in black livery with stripping. One on the Queen and Crescent Limited and the other
There are 2 pictures in the center fold of Issue 31 of "Southern Rails" Winter 1990/1991(from 1926) of Ps-4s still in black livery with stripping. One on the Queen and Crescent Limited and the other
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William Harley
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike,
Turntables were typically accounted for in ICC 20.
Kevin
Ike,
Turntables were typically accounted for in ICC 20.
Kevin
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Kevin Centers
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Thanks Barry, that was my recall too, but I could not find it. Southern Rails was not the easiest publication to find something in.
Maybe I should try again (in the morning after my <pot of>
Thanks Barry, that was my recall too, but I could not find it. Southern Rails was not the easiest publication to find something in.
Maybe I should try again (in the morning after my <pot of>
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Jack:
The Val section data for Brunswick would include any turntable info through the years, although I do not know which ICC account that would be shown under (turntables are not shown separately,
Jack:
The Val section data for Brunswick would include any turntable info through the years, although I do not know which ICC account that would be shown under (turntables are not shown separately,
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
As I recall, a few issues after Southern Rails #28 was an update with a couple more “Black Beauty” pictures. I don’t have my Southern Rails available to check which issue had them, but I will
As I recall, a few issues after Southern Rails #28 was an update with a couple more “Black Beauty” pictures. I don’t have my Southern Rails available to check which issue had them, but I will
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
The 99 ships built at Brunswick during WWII probably accounted for some tonnage. Naval Air Station Glynco was a big blimp base, so I guess that quite a bit of helium was used there,
I am curious what
The 99 ships built at Brunswick during WWII probably accounted for some tonnage. Naval Air Station Glynco was a big blimp base, so I guess that quite a bit of helium was used there,
I am curious what
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Jack:
No doubt you are correct but I cannot find anything in the archives (that we have scanned) to provide more information about SR Mountains to Jesup. There must be something, so we’ll keep
Jack:
No doubt you are correct but I cannot find anything in the archives (that we have scanned) to provide more information about SR Mountains to Jesup. There must be something, so we’ll keep
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George Eichelberger
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Tonnage ratings south of Macon are pretty high as grades are negligible being below the fall line.
CEA
Tonnage ratings south of Macon are pretty high as grades are negligible being below the fall line.
CEA
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike, we are talking about Ts class engines painted black used for a limited time on a pair of freight trains between Macon and Jesup which ran at night. Interestingly, the black paint on former
Ike, we are talking about Ts class engines painted black used for a limited time on a pair of freight trains between Macon and Jesup which ran at night. Interestingly, the black paint on former
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Jack:
Check out the article on Jesup that ran in TIES. Note the photos of the engines at Jesup….no 4-8-2s! Would it be logical to run a Ts to Jesup, cut it off and exchange it for a Pacific for the
Jack:
Check out the article on Jesup that ran in TIES. Note the photos of the engines at Jesup….no 4-8-2s! Would it be logical to run a Ts to Jesup, cut it off and exchange it for a Pacific for the
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George Eichelberger
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Numbering of 19th Century Rolling Stock
Does anyone have a handle on how Southern numbered their combination cars and day coaches at the turn of the century? Pullman Sleepers, I know, had names.
Also, is anyone aware of any diagrams the
Does anyone have a handle on how Southern numbered their combination cars and day coaches at the turn of the century? Pullman Sleepers, I know, had names.
Also, is anyone aware of any diagrams the
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Joel Walker
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
Ike,
Macon -Brunswick got upgraded circa WWII. The May 12, 1946 Atlanta Division ETT shows 314,800 lbs. total weight 4-8-2 Mountain engines being allowed.
Jack Wyatt
Ike,
Macon -Brunswick got upgraded circa WWII. The May 12, 1946 Atlanta Division ETT shows 314,800 lbs. total weight 4-8-2 Mountain engines being allowed.
Jack Wyatt
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C J Wyatt
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Re: Black SOU 4-8-2s in the 1940s
The Southern had to use its Atlantics (4-4-2) then light Pacifics on the Brunswick line south of Macon because of the track. The Atlanta-Jacksonville train that ran on the Coast Line from Jesup
The Southern had to use its Atlantics (4-4-2) then light Pacifics on the Brunswick line south of Macon because of the track. The Atlanta-Jacksonville train that ran on the Coast Line from Jesup
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George Eichelberger
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