Just my thoughts: Using your list here- late 1960's Crescent /early 1970's Southern Crescent (8-cars): -1700 Corinth (60FT Bag-Mail, with plating over flutes) -1751 Greeneville (Bag-Mail, with

All, So maybe this isn't the right list serve for this topic, but I'll start here as its mostly historical in nature (with an admitted purpose to create factory models). TLDR - Looking for some

Revealing also that the main concern expressed in Claytor's memo is regarding the movement of mail, not passengers, which along with REA were the only viable revenue streams. Ironically, with fewer

Interesting to see the plans. While I was in Trans. at UT I saw the break in the Chatt. Connection with 17, but did not understand the reason. Going through the details of the ICC hearings, I

HI folks Interesting story and documentation, albeit sad if you love passenger trains John John R Stewart www.bhamrails.info 205-901-3790

Marv, If you've read Fred Frailey's book, Twilight of the Great Trains, you know that some of the trains Brosnan was in such a sweat to get rid of were actually profitable. Some maybe only marginally

A facinating, behind-the-scenes look at Graham Claytor's rationale and tactics for the wholesale removal of remnant passenger trains in the mid-60s. Those were indeed miserable times for both train

I don't have the exact date, but sometime around the time of this memo, Southern helped to finish off No. 35 from Chattanooga to Memphis, by scheduling No. 17 to arrive Chattanooga ten minutes after

During the mid 1960s, the Southern made a concerted effort to eliminate as many passenger trains as possible. While many people would assume it was mostly the work of D.W. Brosnan, his “man behind

Mark: We allow attachments on both the “SouthernRailway” and “ModelingThe Southern” groups. The time will probably come when we get to the limit of allowed storage and some items will have to

Not sure if the io.groups site will strip attachments or not, but attached is one scan of the train, at Mitchell VA. on April 27,1985. I saw & photographed him first at the Route 29 o/p at Culpepper,

John Stewart: It has been a long time. For instance I said the ore moved on 154. Actually, by that time the Mobile trains were renumbered 183-184. Yes, 184 was filled out to the tonnage limit with

Hi folks Neat story. Got a picture? John John R Stewart www.bhamrails.info 205-901-3790

And in late April, 1985, on a cloudy day, I chased & photographed Southern titanium ore train south of Charlottesville, with all D&H hoppers, which I'm 99% certain originated at the mine at Tahawus

We received an interesting question from John Horvath (NYCHS) about a group of Pullman Plan 3979A (8-1-2) sleepers assigned to the Ponce DeLeon. While we continue to look through the photos in the

Hi John Hedrick Thanks very much for this information – interesting. So, it sounds like these car loads were used to “fill out train tonnage”. That is, if Train 156 had room for more

Mobile ore movements. I was Trainmaster at Mobile 1970-71. Best I can recall, we moved both red ore and some pellet ore at that time. At one point, some pellet ore moved in Big Red coal hoppers

Hi All, Thanks again Ike and all for the very good information. I am coming to believe that these cars likely were in service “demand” – i.e., were needed for their original use until at

Note that the cars on either side are 2bay 100ton aggregate hoppers.

John: The attached SR memo is in no way conclusive that the Southern’s ore cars were still in that service in 1970. But….spending $52,000 to repair 20 sixteen year old 1,629 cu ft hopper cars