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locked Re: Convention/RPM Registration for Friday Dinner and Ladies Tea

George Eichelberger
 

Stuart:

Yes, the Tea is extra fare. It is a TVRM activity, separate from the convention. It was started a couple of months ago and is very popular. We did not know if there would be enough convention/RPM attendees to add to the schedule on short notice but it appears interest is high enough our group will fill one of the Saturday sessions. It has a WWII era theme serving typical items at an English Tea and of course a variety of Tea.

Sherry (Mrs E.) attended the kick-off session and was impressed with the Tea Room atmosphere, the food and simply enjoyed the opportunity to see some of the other ladies at TVRM. Anyone going to Chattanooga is welcome to sign up.

Ike


On Sep 17, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Stuart Thayer via groups.io <StuThayer@...> wrote:

Ike,
 
Is the Ladies Tea an extra fare event?  On the link it shows a $40 registration fee.  The Convention registration that I have does not indicate that is an extra cost event.
 
Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 9/17/2022 1:05:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:
 
All:
 
Plans, and registrations, for the joint SRHA-L&NHS-RPM convention/meet at TVRM 9-30/10-1 are moving ahead.
 
There are two new events many people may not be aware of: box dinners at the Grand Junction depot Friday evening and a Spouses “Tea” upstairs at the depot Saturday afternoon. Getting into a restaurant in Chattanooga on Friday evening is difficult so having informal time to simply sit, eat, visit and watch trains on Norfolk Southern keeps folks from having to leave to go eat.
 
The Tea is something TVRM began just recently. Upstairs at Grand Junction has been turned into an English style tea room.
 
So TVRM can have an idea of how many people to expect, please use the two links below if you would like to attend.
 
Convention/RPM registration will be available on site. For anyone planning to be there for Saturday only, registration is $25 and includes all convention and RPM activities.
 
Ike


Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
(423) 894-8028  info@...  tvrail.com

All Concerned:
Due to the overwhelmingly positive response to our Friday meal at TVRM it has been necessary to plan to provide box lunches to order that everyone interested be served. Please visit links below to sign up for the Friday night meal and the ladies tea if you wish to participate. 

Friday Dinner: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/390247/availability/975961993/book/?full-items=yes

Ladies Tea: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/397313/availability/975909395/book/?flow=454033&full-items=yes

   
2022 Joint L&NHS SRHA Convention
Thursday, September 29 2022 - Saturday, October 1 2022
Thursday, September 29th 2022 - Saturday, October 1st 2022
 
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locked Re: SR St. Louis Division

Craig Berndt
 

Stuart:

Thanks.  I have the book.

Craig
___

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 09:33:51 AM EDT, Stuart Thayer via groups.io <stuthayer@...> wrote:


Craig,
 
Have you looked into the book "Rails Around Indiana" by Michael C Kelly & David Crisler Jr.?  There some coverage of the Southern's St Louis Div.  You may be able to glean some additional information to help in your research from the photos and captions.
 
Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 9/17/2022 8:48:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, cjberndt@... writes:
 

 
Ike:  
 
Thanks.
 
I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.
 
I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.
 
The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.
 
Craig Berndt  
____________
 
 
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
 
 
Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked Re: SR St. Louis Division

Craig Berndt
 

David:

Thank you.  I have the Morningstar book. 

Yes, Ps-2.  The Wabash River bridge couldn't support more weight, and that's why SR's last scheduled steam was on the St. Louis Div. in far away Indiana.

For historians, the 45xx 2-8-2s also served on the St. Louis Div.  They arrived via the 2,200 ft. Burton tunnel on the French Lick branch.  They were too large for the 4500 ft. Edwardsville tunnel west of Louisville, and too heavy for the Wabash River bridge, so they operated in Indiana's coal fields.

Craig Berndt
____________
 

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 09:40:47 AM EDT, David Eisman <davideisman@...> wrote:


The easiest recent reference is a Morning Sun book titled “Trackside around Louisville (West) 1947- 1958 with Jack Fravert. Lots of good color photos of St Louis Div trains around Louisville.  I think you can buy a copy through the L&N Historical Society.  I will check for other references to this line in my collection.  I’m from Louisville and have several more but this is the best reference with nice color photos.
This line was too light for Ps-4 s, the Southern used Ps-2 .
I’ll get more references and get back to you.
All the best
David Eisman


On Sep 17, 2022, at 8:48 AM, Craig Berndt via groups.io <cjberndt@...> wrote:


Ike:  

Thanks.

I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.

I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.

The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.

Craig Berndt  
____________


 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked Re: Convention/RPM Registration for Friday Dinner and Ladies Tea

Carl Ardrey
 

Yes, it is extra. It was added later.
CEA

On 09/17/2022 6:18 PM Stuart Thayer via groups.io <stuthayer@...> wrote:


Ike,

Is the Ladies Tea an extra fare event?  On the link it shows a $40 registration fee.  The Convention registration that I have does not indicate that is an extra cost event.

Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 9/17/2022 1:05:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:

All:

Plans, and registrations, for the joint SRHA-L&NHS-RPM convention/meet at TVRM 9-30/10-1 are moving ahead.

There are two new events many people may not be aware of: box dinners at the Grand Junction depot Friday evening and a Spouses “Tea” upstairs at the depot Saturday afternoon. Getting into a restaurant in Chattanooga on Friday evening is difficult so having informal time to simply sit, eat, visit and watch trains on Norfolk Southern keeps folks from having to leave to go eat.

The Tea is something TVRM began just recently. Upstairs at Grand Junction has been turned into an English style tea room.

So TVRM can have an idea of how many people to expect, please use the two links below if you would like to attend.

Convention/RPM registration will be available on site. For anyone planning to be there for Saturday only, registration is $25 and includes all convention and RPM activities.

Ike


Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
(423) 894-8028  info@...  tvrail.com

All Concerned:
Due to the overwhelmingly positive response to our Friday meal at TVRM it has been necessary to plan to provide box lunches to order that everyone interested be served. Please visit links below to sign up for the Friday night meal and the ladies tea if you wish to participate. 

Friday Dinner: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/390247/availability/975961993/book/?full-items=yes

Ladies Tea: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/397313/availability/975909395/book/?flow=454033&full-items=yes



2022 Joint L&NHS SRHA Convention
Thursday, September 29 2022 - Saturday, October 1 2022
Thursday, September 29th 2022 - Saturday, October 1st 2022

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locked Re: Convention/RPM Registration for Friday Dinner and Ladies Tea

Stuart Thayer
 

Ike,
 
Is the Ladies Tea an extra fare event?  On the link it shows a $40 registration fee.  The Convention registration that I have does not indicate that is an extra cost event.
 
Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 9/17/2022 1:05:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, geichelberger@... writes:
 

All:
 
Plans, and registrations, for the joint SRHA-L&NHS-RPM convention/meet at TVRM 9-30/10-1 are moving ahead.
 
There are two new events many people may not be aware of: box dinners at the Grand Junction depot Friday evening and a Spouses “Tea” upstairs at the depot Saturday afternoon. Getting into a restaurant in Chattanooga on Friday evening is difficult so having informal time to simply sit, eat, visit and watch trains on Norfolk Southern keeps folks from having to leave to go eat.
 
The Tea is something TVRM began just recently. Upstairs at Grand Junction has been turned into an English style tea room.
 
So TVRM can have an idea of how many people to expect, please use the two links below if you would like to attend.
 
Convention/RPM registration will be available on site. For anyone planning to be there for Saturday only, registration is $25 and includes all convention and RPM activities.
 
Ike


Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
(423) 894-8028  info@...  tvrail.com

All Concerned:
Due to the overwhelmingly positive response to our Friday meal at TVRM it has been necessary to plan to provide box lunches to order that everyone interested be served. Please visit links below to sign up for the Friday night meal and the ladies tea if you wish to participate. 

Friday Dinner: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/390247/availability/975961993/book/?full-items=yes

Ladies Tea: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/397313/availability/975909395/book/?flow=454033&full-items=yes

   
2022 Joint L&NHS SRHA Convention
Thursday, September 29 2022 - Saturday, October 1 2022
Thursday, September 29th 2022 - Saturday, October 1st 2022
 
Add to your calendar:
Google Calendar
Apple Calendar
Yahoo Calendar
Outlook Calendar
 
   

 
 


locked Convention/RPM Registration for Friday Dinner and Ladies Tea

George Eichelberger
 

All:

Plans, and registrations, for the joint SRHA-L&NHS-RPM convention/meet at TVRM 9-30/10-1 are moving ahead.

There are two new events many people may not be aware of: box dinners at the Grand Junction depot Friday evening and a Spouses “Tea” upstairs at the depot Saturday afternoon. Getting into a restaurant in Chattanooga on Friday evening is difficult so having informal time to simply sit, eat, visit and watch trains on Norfolk Southern keeps folks from having to leave to go eat.

The Tea is something TVRM began just recently. Upstairs at Grand Junction has been turned into an English style tea room.

So TVRM can have an idea of how many people to expect, please use the two links below if you would like to attend.

Convention/RPM registration will be available on site. For anyone planning to be there for Saturday only, registration is $25 and includes all convention and RPM activities.

Ike


Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
(423) 894-8028  info@...  tvrail.com

All Concerned:
Due to the overwhelmingly positive response to our Friday meal at TVRM it has been necessary to plan to provide box lunches to order that everyone interested be served. Please visit links below to sign up for the Friday night meal and the ladies tea if you wish to participate. 

Friday Dinner: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/390247/availability/975961993/book/?full-items=yes

Ladies Tea: https://fareharbor.com/embeds/book/tvrail/items/397313/availability/975909395/book/?flow=454033&full-items=yes


2022 Joint L&NHS SRHA Convention
Thursday, September 29 2022 - Saturday, October 1 2022
Thursday, September 29th 2022 - Saturday, October 1st 2022

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locked Re: On Line presentations?

O Fenton Wells
 

Ike's presentations are well done and someone should video him giving them so they can be checked out and used by others.
My thoughts
Fenton

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:19 AM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
The SRHA BOD has discussed organizing and scheduling “live” and recorded presentations for some time.

Is there any interest in us doing that? More important, will anyone volunteer to help organize them, possibly including helping to produce or update them?

Ike

PS Not that I should be the “presenter” but over the years, here are some clinics I’ve done at the Cocoa Beach RPM. All should be updated but they are available if anyone wants to put them on line or use them for local groups.

Southern 1st gen diesels (mostly photos, diesel books are in progress)
Auto parts eq & pools
Bananas from the Port of Charleston
Southern Rwy Joint Facilities
Charleston Div MAIN trains
Introduction to the Southern Railway Historical Association Archives
Knoxville Lexington Group presentation
Southern Intermodal
Southern Trackage Rights Presentations (short and long versions)
ACL-Sou Trackage Hardeeville, SC to Jacksonville, FL, Selma to Pinners Point (being updated with new TIES article)
Jacksonville Terminal


 
Ike:  
 
Thanks.
 
I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.
 
I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.
 
The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.
 
Craig Berndt  
____________
 
 
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
 
 
Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike



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locked Re: Photos of Pullman 10-3 painted silver for the Tennessean

Jason Greene
 

There was a thread a week or two ago about this. There were four cars originally that were painted silver to match. Then there were 3-4 cars that got shadow line scheme. Knickerbocker is the only car to do both schemes. 

I will have a model of Knickerbocker (Shadow line) and Dahlonega (Plain Silver) at the RPM for convention later this month. 

Jason Greene 

On Sep 17, 2022, at 9:11 AM, Marv Clemons <mclemonsjr@...> wrote:

Great information and photo, Jason.  I wasn't aware that Southern ever operated a shadow-striped heavyweight on the TENNESSEAN.  Always something new to learn.

Marv Clemons


locked On Line presentations?

George Eichelberger
 

The SRHA BOD has discussed organizing and scheduling “live” and recorded presentations for some time.

Is there any interest in us doing that? More important, will anyone volunteer to help organize them, possibly including helping to produce or update them?

Ike

PS Not that I should be the “presenter” but over the years, here are some clinics I’ve done at the Cocoa Beach RPM. All should be updated but they are available if anyone wants to put them on line or use them for local groups.

Southern 1st gen diesels (mostly photos, diesel books are in progress)
Auto parts eq & pools
Bananas from the Port of Charleston
Southern Rwy Joint Facilities
Charleston Div MAIN trains
Introduction to the Southern Railway Historical Association Archives
Knoxville Lexington Group presentation
Southern Intermodal
Southern Trackage Rights Presentations (short and long versions)
ACL-Sou Trackage Hardeeville, SC to Jacksonville, FL, Selma to Pinners Point (being updated with new TIES article)
Jacksonville Terminal


 
Ike:  
 
Thanks.
 
I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.
 
I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.
 
The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.
 
Craig Berndt  
____________
 
 
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
 
 
Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked Re: SR St. Louis Division

David Eisman
 

The easiest recent reference is a Morning Sun book titled “Trackside around Louisville (West) 1947- 1958 with Jack Fravert. Lots of good color photos of St Louis Div trains around Louisville.  I think you can buy a copy through the L&N Historical Society.  I will check for other references to this line in my collection.  I’m from Louisville and have several more but this is the best reference with nice color photos.
This line was too light for Ps-4 s, the Southern used Ps-2 .
I’ll get more references and get back to you.
All the best
David Eisman


On Sep 17, 2022, at 8:48 AM, Craig Berndt via groups.io <cjberndt@...> wrote:


Ike:  

Thanks.

I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.

I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.

The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.

Craig Berndt  
____________


 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked Re: SR St. Louis Division

Stuart Thayer
 

Craig,
 
Have you looked into the book "Rails Around Indiana" by Michael C Kelly & David Crisler Jr.?  There some coverage of the Southern's St Louis Div.  You may be able to glean some additional information to help in your research from the photos and captions.
 
Stuart Thayer

In a message dated 9/17/2022 8:48:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, cjberndt@... writes:
 

 
Ike:  
 
Thanks.
 
I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.
 
I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.
 
The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.
 
Craig Berndt  
____________
 
 
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
 
 
Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked Re: Photos of Pullman 10-3 painted silver for the Tennessean

Marv Clemons
 

Great information and photo, Jason.  I wasn't aware that Southern ever operated a shadow-striped heavyweight on the TENNESSEAN.  Always something new to learn.

Marv Clemons


locked Re: SR St. Louis Division

Craig Berndt
 

Ike:  

Thanks.

I researched the St. Louis Div. when SR's archives were in Kennesaw.  I've also researched at the national archives, and at state and local libraries and archives.  I have Harrison's book, ICC's valuation report and other official records.  I wanted to know if there are other resources or people who are interested in the St. Louis Div.

I have a PowerPoint presentation that I've presented several times in IN and KY.

The attached map shows SR's main and 4 branch lines in Indiana.

Craig Berndt  
____________


 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 06:06:31 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked Re: Photos of Pullman 10-3 painted silver for the Tennessean

Jason Greene
 

This is the best image available of a Tennessean Sleeper. It is a 12-1 not a 10-3, but the would have been the same or same color without the shadow lines. There were two eras of these cars. 

On Sep 16, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:


Hi,

Cannot find any online photos of Pullman 10-3s - or any other heavyweight sleeper, painted silver for the Tennessean.  Was is a flat silver or a shadow scheme?

TIA,

Patrick


locked Photos of Pullman 10-3 painted silver for the Tennessean

Patrick Howle
 

Hi,

Cannot find any online photos of Pullman 10-3s - or any other heavyweight sleeper, painted silver for the Tennessean.  Was is a flat silver or a shadow scheme?

TIA,

Patrick


locked Re: SR St. Louis Division

George Eichelberger
 

Craig:

Although it has never been researched in detail, and certainly never published, there is a significant amount of documentation on the St. Louis line in the SRHA archives. The material is not stored on a per-division basis (they changed over the years) so I cannot estimate how much there is but it would certainly be worth someone's time to research and publish the information.
Here's an example....

Ike


locked SR St. Louis Division

Craig Berndt
 

I live in Indiana and have been researching the history of SR's lines in the state since the 1990s.  It includes SR's Louisville-St. Louis mainline and five branch lines in Indiana.  I've made several presentations about the St. Louis Div. 

The only SR history I've found that discusses the St. Louis Div. is Prince.  Are the others?

I was recently given the Oct. 1950 Trains magazine, which has a history of the Ps-4 4-6-2.  It listed the divisions and subsidiaries that had the Ps-4, but not the St. Louis Div.  SR's last scheduled steam was a Ps-4 on the St. Louis Div. in June 1953.

Craig Berndt


locked Re: Need SOU/R&D engine photo

O Fenton Wells
 

Probably too old for me but I'll check
Fenton

On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:15 PM Jim King <jimking3@...> wrote:

I’m researching the “big” engine that Southern operated on the Asheville & Craggy Mtn RR where I volunteer.  The entire branch still exists; we run that last 3.5 miles and NS switches 1 customer on the rest of the line.

 

ICC val report lists SOU 3325 on the line in 1916.  Prince’s book says that class was renumbered in 1910-12 by adding 2000 to the number, then shows all previous numbers and owners.  It’s a real shot in the dark to get a photo of that engine wearing any number.  It was part of the 3323-3327, 3333 group so any pic from these or predecessors would be great.  Here’s the lineage of 3325:

 

SOU 3325

Was SOU 1325

Was SOU 602

Was Richmond & Danville 302

Was R&D 5

 

Built 1880 at Altoona Shops, sold 3-1925 to A&CM as 3325 but was shown as leased by SOU in 1916 report.  There is no scrapping date.  I found a poor photo of 3333 in a scrap line on the Southern Railfan web site.

 

Got anything?

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 



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locked Need SOU/R&D engine photo

Jim King
 

I’m researching the “big” engine that Southern operated on the Asheville & Craggy Mtn RR where I volunteer.  The entire branch still exists; we run that last 3.5 miles and NS switches 1 customer on the rest of the line.

 

ICC val report lists SOU 3325 on the line in 1916.  Prince’s book says that class was renumbered in 1910-12 by adding 2000 to the number, then shows all previous numbers and owners.  It’s a real shot in the dark to get a photo of that engine wearing any number.  It was part of the 3323-3327, 3333 group so any pic from these or predecessors would be great.  Here’s the lineage of 3325:

 

SOU 3325

Was SOU 1325

Was SOU 602

Was Richmond & Danville 302

Was R&D 5

 

Built 1880 at Altoona Shops, sold 3-1925 to A&CM as 3325 but was shown as leased by SOU in 1916 report.  There is no scrapping date.  I found a poor photo of 3333 in a scrap line on the Southern Railfan web site.

 

Got anything?

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


locked Re: [passconsist] 1961 Southern Rwy Sugar Bowl Special

Carl Ardrey
 

Consist would probably have  been in divisional records, AGS and NO&NE, and are long gone.

CEA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Jason P
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:40 AM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] [passconsist] 1961 Southern Rwy Sugar Bowl Special

 

I put this on the Passenger Consist group earlier. Thought I might put it here as well. Any records showing what equipment was used for this train?

 

-Jason P

---------- Original Message ----------

From: Jason P <gmo1515@...>

To: "passconsist@groups.io" <passconsist@groups.io>

Date: 09/16/2022 8:26 AM

Subject: [passconsist] 1961 Southern Rwy Sugar Bowl Special

 

 

This is an ad that appeared in the Sept. 18, 1960 Huntsville Times for a chartered run from Birmingham to New Orleans for the 1961 Sugar Bowl. Would anyone have a consist of the equipment used? I would imagine mostly older heavyweight Pullmans would have been used for the run.

 

Looking up the '61 Sugar Bowl, it appeared it was the Ole Miss Rebels in that game taking on the Rice Owls. The Rebels would take home the victory 14-6.

 

Thanks,

Jason P