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It's just THREE (3+) days away now: Timonium, Maryland train show; October 15-16, 2022; Saturday and Sunday
Cohen Bob
For those who have been waiting 6 (six) months, your wait is just about over. In just over 3 days, come Saturday and Sunday, October 15-16, 2022, the next Timonium, Maryland train show will be held at the Maryland State Fairgrounds there that weekend. Saturday hours are 9-5 and Sunday 10-4 and your admission on Saturday gets you in free on Sunday. Just about any railroad you can imagine should be represented in some fashion in print availability for some books or magazines there, not to mention models of all gauges, parts a-plenty, operating modular layouts from various groups and who knows what else might be there? There will also be a bunch operating modular layouts of all gauges to be enjoyed as well. Likely railroads to be in greatest representation with material of their operations and existence should be the B&O, PRR, Southern, C&O, Ma & Pa, and who knows what else, right? Oftentimes various RR historical societies have also been in attendance as well as NRHS chapters. The PRR, B&O, Ma & Pa, and WM railroad groups are among those who have been in attendance in the recent past. There will also be the usual pink elephant table for selling your stuff (alright, alright, it's the White Elephant table I know, but I couldn't resist), located right in center of the South Hall. No shortage of parking so that's not a problem either. Hope to see you there in about 3-4 days by the time you receive this. Bob Cohen |
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Drawings Needing Scanning and Cleaning up at SRHA Archives
George Eichelberger
In addition to the rolling stock drawings and memos typically posted to the Southern.io group, there are many depot and other structure drawings and photos in the SRHA archives. Like everything else, volunteers are needed to help get the material organized.
Recently, we began scanning a series of original drawings from 1947 and 1948 when the Spencer, NC roundhouse was being modified to repair the Southern’s “new” diesels. The attached drawing shows the "Proposed Track Layout for Diesel Repair Facilities in Spencer Rdhse" dated 5-10-1947. The original high resolution scan is full size and nearly 60 MB. This version is smaller than the 35” x 20” scan and much lower resolution so it could be posted. The next scheduled archives work session is Friday and Saturday, Oct 21 and 22. (The L&NHS archives work session is the same dates.) Ike |
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Austell tower
Warren Stephens
Does anyone know the year the tower was raised in Austell? There is a restaurant in downtown Austell that has old photos up and one was the Southern interlocking tower. Not the greatest cell phone photo with glass glare etc. An interesting structure nonetheless. And speaking of Austell what year was the depot removed? I assume it was not moved to another location but was simply demolished?
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It's just TEN (10) days away now: Timonium, Maryland train show; October 15-16, 2022; Saturday and Sunday
Cohen Bob
For those who have been waiting 6 (six) months, your wait is just about over. For those with a "Honey Do" list, now is the time to get ready. In just 10 days, come Saturday and Sunday, October 15-16, 2022, the next Timonium, Maryland train show will be held at the Maryland State Fairgrounds there that weekend. Saturday hours are 9-5 and Sunday 10-4 and your admission on Saturday gets you in free on Sunday. Just about any railroad you can imagine should be represented in some fashion in print availability for some books or magazines there, not to mention models of all gauges, parts a-plenty, operating modular layouts from various groups and who knows what else might be there? Likely railroads to be in greatest representation with material of their operations and existence should be the B&O, PRR, Southern, C&O, Ma & Pa, and who knows what else, right? Oftentimes various RR historical societies have also been in attendance as well as NRHS chapters. There will also be the usual pink elephant table for selling your stuff (okay, okay, it's the White Elephant table I know, but I couldn't resist), right in center of the South Hall. No shortage of parking so that's not a problem either. So get that Honey Do list done THIS coming weekend. Hope to see you there in 10 days by the time you receive this. Bob Cohen |
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Work Session
Carl Ardrey
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Re: SOU Heavyduty Depressed Center Flat Cars
Thanks for the info. On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 4:08 PM <rgraham2@...> wrote:
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Re: SOU Flat Car Paint Color
Mostly black On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 1:11 AM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
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Re: SOU Heavyduty Depressed Center Flat Cars
Robert Graham
Allen,
' Theses cars in the 1950's would've been in black with white RR Roman lettering. I.ve attached a 1950's era SOU flat car as an example, along with a later era photo of SOU 50000. Bob Graham ----------------------------------------- From: "Allen Cain"To: "main@SouthernRailway.groups.io" Cc: Sent: Saturday October 1 2022 10:53:26AM Subject: [SouthernRailway] SOU Heavyduty Depressed Center Flat Cars Class One Models is producing HO Southern Heavy Duty
Depressed Center Flat Cars which are lettered in the later block
style with the lube bar codes.
These were in the 50000 to 50001 series. Only the first
car 50000 had friction bearings while the others came with Hyatt
roller bearings. Attached is Southern drawing 31-F-79 for
reference.
If we can furnish photos or artwork for them as released in
1953 they are interested in producing that style in a later
run.
If you would forward materials to me off list I will see that
a package gets to them.
Thanks for the help!
Allen Cain
Modeling The Southern RR in 1955 in HO
Scale
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Re: SOU Heavyduty Depressed Center Flat Cars
Warren Calloway
On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 10:53 AM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
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SOU Heavyduty Depressed Center Flat Cars
Class One Models is producing HO Southern Heavy Duty Depressed Center Flat Cars which are lettered in the later block style with the lube bar codes.
These were in the 50000 to 50001 series. Only the first car 50000 had friction bearings while the others came with Hyatt roller bearings. Attached is Southern drawing 31-F-79 for reference. If we can furnish photos or artwork for them as released in 1953 they are interested in producing that style in a later run. If you would forward materials to me off list I will see that a package gets to them. Thanks for the help! Allen Cain Modeling The Southern RR in 1955 in HO Scale -- Allen Cain Modeling the Southern in 1955 in HO Scale |
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SOU Flat Car Paint Color
What color paint would have been on Southern flat cars in mid-1955?
Allen Cain Modeling The Southern RR in 1955 in HO Scale -- Allen Cain Modeling the Southern in 1955 in HO Scale |
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Convention and RPM
Kyle Shannon
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Re: 4-8-2's in freight service
George Courtney
Would love to see a black Ts with passenger lettering if possible? I don't have an answer to why Southern used the Ts in freight service. But I know they B&O used Mountain types in the midwest because of their higher speed over lower driver sized Mikes.
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4-8-2's in freight service
Gary Bechdol
At the very end of steam on Southern, several Ts and Ts-1 4-8-2's were assigned to Chattanooga-Atlanta-Macon freight sevice. Several, if not all, were equipped with 14,000 gallon tenders from retired Ps-4's, to eliminate intermediate water stops. Does anyone know, or care to speculate, why the 4-8-2's were assigned to this service instead of, say, Ms-4 2-8-2's. also, what type of trains they might have been assigned to.
There was an article in Southern Rails back in the last century covering the Ts's in this service, but I have not been able to locate my copy. It included several photos of Ts's in freight black, but at least on was black with full passenger lettering and stripping. Southern's shop forces were a class act all the way to the end. Thanks in advance. Gar Bechdol Stone Mountain, GA |
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Re: SOUTHERN ALCo RS-11 # 11 Decals
David Friedlander
Not sure how well this quest has gone, but if stencil diagrams are freely available, I don't mind drawing everything needed to create an accurate decal sheet in multiple scales for this locomotive. David Friedlander On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:14 PM John Degnan <scaler164@...> wrote:
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Re: More SOU SD40-2 Questions
David Friedlander
Thanks Scott! Never really considered that diesel locomotives tried to keep the dust out of the electrical cabinets, but that makes a lot of sense. David On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 11:35 PM D. Scott Chatfield <blindog@...> wrote:
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Re: SR St. Louis Division
Craig Berndt
Thank you. I'll contact them. You told me that SR took the 45xx locomotives in and out of Indiana via the Monon at French Lick. Were they dead-in-train thru Burton Tunnel? Craig Berndt ______________
On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 07:21:54 PM EDT, Bill Schafer <bill4501@...> wrote:
I understand the TRRA Historical Society did a deep dive on SOU operations into St. Louis some years ago. You might want to see if they have the issue that featured SOU. —Bill On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:49, James Walton <whovianwil@...> wrote:
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Re: SOUTHERN ALCo RS-11 # 11 Decals
I honestly don't know since I am not as Southern-savvy as I should be. (I have focused on modeling SAL most of my life.)
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Also... these decals will need to be S scale, so I feel sure I will have to have a custom set made. So I might as well do them right instead of settling for something almost-right. John. D -------- Original message -------- From: O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> Date: 9/21/22 10:25 AM (GMT-05:00) To: main@southernrailway.groups.io Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] SOUTHERN ALCo RS-11 # 11 Decals Can you use the Microscale RS-3 decals? They should be close Fenton On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 8:37 AM John Degnan <scaler164@...> wrote:
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Re: SOUTHERN ALCo RS-11 # 11 Decals
Matt Bumgarner
The sets available on ebay in N, HO, and O will work for all C&N-W Alcos. The "Railroad Roman" set is for RS-2's #1-4 and the "Arial" set handles the RS-3's and RS-11. (not quite sure of the font names, but I am close)... Note that these decals are slightly larger in size than they should be, but they are passable Matt Bumgarner On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 10:25 AM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
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Re: SOUTHERN ALCo RS-11 # 11 Decals
Can you use the Microscale RS-3 decals? They should be close Fenton On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 8:37 AM John Degnan <scaler164@...> wrote:
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