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locked Re: NKP Car Company sides for The Tennessean

George Eichelberger
 

Patrick:

Yes! I was “shocked” to find they even existed. Someone will make good use of them…and the data on the cars in the SRHA archives….

I already have the PSC sets and several of the NKP kits or I would have bought them on the spot. I think (!) the price was about $1,200.

Ike



On Aug 30, 2022, at 10:33 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:

Hi Ike,

Is this info open to the public?

Regards,

Patrick

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:26:08 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Patrick:

I’m reasonably sure  virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM.

Ike

PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555.



On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:

Hi,

Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show.

Very little supplemental information was provided.

Did not see any info on the NKP site.

Anyone know which cars were offered?

TIA,

Patrick



locked Re: NKP Car Company sides for The Tennessean

Patrick Howle
 

Hi Ike,

Is this info open to the public?

Regards,

Patrick

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:26:08 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:


Patrick:

I’m reasonably sure  virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM.

Ike

PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555.



On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:

Hi,

Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show.

Very little supplemental information was provided.

Did not see any info on the NKP site.

Anyone know which cars were offered?

TIA,

Patrick


locked [lnhs-newsletter] 2022 Convention Schedule of Events and Special Instructions

George Eichelberger
 

All:

Planning for the joint SRHA/L&NHS/RPM at TVRM in Chattanooga is moving ahead. The Saturday dinner train is sold out but everything else will be available.

Join us if you can….and bring your Southern, Central of Georgia and L&N models!

Ike




Begin forwarded message:

From: "Jeffrey Carlyle" <jeffrey@...>
Subject: [lnhs-newsletter] 2022 Convention Schedule of Events and Special Instructions
Date: August 30, 2022 at 5:35:45 PM EDT

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Joint Convention Railroad Prototype Modelers Meeting
Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum 
Chattanooga, Tennessee
September 29-October 1, 2022

Schedule of Events & Special Instructions
(Revision 8/22/22; Subject to Change as Necessary)

Event Locations:

Exhibit Building Main Floor: Model displays, Vendors, Swap meet, Modular O Scale Layout, Photo Displays; Space to be locked each night at closing.
Exhibit Building Upstairs Meeting Room: Guest Speaker, Clinics.
Exhibit Building Office/Classroom: Clinics.

Note: Upstairs events will be live streamed at foot of the stairway for accommodation of physical limitations.

Archive Building: L&NHS & SRHA Archives; Special Guided tours for groups up to 10.

HQ Building Main Floor: Clinics.
HQ Building Basement: TVRM Model Railroad.

Grand Junction Depot: Lunch, Friday Evening Dinner, Ladies Tea, Missionary Ridge Local Departures & Arrivals.

Soule Shop: Special Guided Tour on Friday; Take 1:30 pm Missionary Ridge Local from Depot.

Transportation & Parking

All activities are on the TVRM campus except for railfanning & layout tour. A railfan guide will be available at registration as well as a map to layout open for visitation. Walking between events on the campus is encouraged and 15 minutes are generally allotted for that. A golf cart will be available if needed. Attendees may also park personal cars for free at any one of four parking areas near each campus event location as shown on the map available at registration. Cars may be moved between lots as needed.

TVRM operates the Missionary Ridge Local from the Grand Junction Depot following a regular published schedule. Convention registrants may ride this local as often as desired Thursday-Saturday using their identification badge as a ticket. TVRM offers other train rides not included in the convention schedule; consult the TVRM website for schedules, departure locations, and ticket costs.

In the event of inclement weather, announcements will be made at the registration desk.


Tentative Speakers & Topics

Consult the detailed daily schedule for times & locations.

Doug Alexander   Southern PS-4’s   
Mark Brainard   Refrigerator Car Overview; with Hands-on Tour   
Steve Cawood   History of Middlesboro, KY & Cumberland Gap Railroads
Rusty Evans   Modeling Southern Railway Cabooses
Ron Flanary   The Art of Railroad Photography
David Godwin   Photographing Railroad Models
Tom Knowles   NC&StL Cowan Tunnel  
Jeff Kuebler   Modeling the L&N Eastern Kentucky Subdivision
Dave Queener   Early Southern Freight Cars
Bill Schaffer   Operations Around Selma, AL; Southern & L&N
Josh Singletary   Modeling a L&N GP-35
Lee Singletary   L&NHS Modeling Committee Update; Train Show Activities
Paul Spillman   Southern Saluda Mountain
Stuart Thayer   L&N Unit Coal Train Operations
George Walker   NC&StL/L&N Sequatchie Valley Branch; History & Modeling
Robert West   Life of a Pullman Porter
John Wilkes   Modeling Appalachian Coal Tipples; Kentucky & Southwest Virginia

Special Guest Speaker

Davidson Ward: President, FMW Solutions LLC; Steam Locomotive Restoration Update

Special Events

Dedication of L&NHS Archives; Dedication of the SRHA Jim Wrinn Photo Archive 
Ladies “Railroad Tea”
“Up Close & Personal” with Southern 4501
Swap Meet Sale and Vendor Tables
Tour of TVRM Model Railroad

Registration

Advanced registration available through TVRM & society websites: www.tvrail.com, www.lnrr.org, www.srha.net 

Note that the dinner train has sold out.



locked Re: NKP Car Company sides for The Tennessean

George Eichelberger
 

Patrick:

I’m reasonably sure  virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM.

Ike

PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555.



On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:

Hi,

Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show.

Very little supplemental information was provided.

Did not see any info on the NKP site.

Anyone know which cars were offered?

TIA,

Patrick


locked NKP Car Company sides for The Tennessean

Patrick Howle
 

Hi,

Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show.

Very little supplemental information was provided.

Did not see any info on the NKP site.

Anyone know which cars were offered?

TIA,

Patrick


locked Joint Convention and RPM Meet at TVRM 9-29/10-1

George Eichelberger
 

All:

Although we anticipate changes as we get closer to the convention/RPM dates, here are the latest versions of the announcement and schedule.

One “new” item to make folks aware of: because the Nashville, Knoxville and Atlanta areas are a short drive from Chattanooga, some people want to attend only on Saturday. A single-day registration costing $25 is now available. (Saturday’s dinner train is sold out but the RPM displays and joint convention clinics will be open to one-day registrations.)

In addition to the scheduled clinics, Friday evening’s speaker, TVRM shop tour, clinics, RPM model display, swap tables and several dealers, the session will feature the SRHA and L&NHS archives. Those open houses will include tours of the archive collections and examples of using archives materials for modeling projects.

Depending on how many attendees we can predict*, clinic time slots will be added for speakers that have offered to present their subjects a second time.

Ike

*For anyone planning to come and register on-site, if you will send an mail to archives@..., letting us know your plan, it will help determine if more clinic times need to be added.





locked Re: New River Railroad

David Kinser <davidkinser1973@...>
 

Thank you Ron Stafford. Only have seen one train on that line couldn't get pics it was a GP38 pushing 5 loads over US27 bridge 


On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 12:58 AM Ron Stafford via groups.io <wag2200=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Apparently my photos didn't attach in the order that I had planned on them doing so.

227102 is at Brimstone siding.

227104 is at Sterling siding.

387110 is at Hughett.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Stafford via groups.io <wag2200=verizon.net@groups.io>
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2022 1:53 am
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] New River Railroad

I was holding back on answering, this hoping that someone other than myself might have better information and/or photos.

To the best of my knowledge Alco S2's and (later) EMD SW1's and NW2's were the normal power on New River after the SOU took over.

As for the various coal loaders, I shot the remains of three of them back in the early 2000's (photo's attached). The first one is what remains of a truck dump at Hughett on the short spur.

Second photo is of the loadout at Brimstone siding.

Third photo is of the loadout at Sterling siding.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: David Kinser <davidkinser1973@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 16, 2022 10:45 am
Subject: [SouthernRailway] New River Railroad

Looking for info on the New River railway after SR takeover up to abandonment.  Need info on what engines were used and pics of coal loaders 


locked Re: New River Railroad

Ron Stafford
 

Apparently my photos didn't attach in the order that I had planned on them doing so.

227102 is at Brimstone siding.

227104 is at Sterling siding.

387110 is at Hughett.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Stafford via groups.io <wag2200@...>
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2022 1:53 am
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] New River Railroad

I was holding back on answering, this hoping that someone other than myself might have better information and/or photos.

To the best of my knowledge Alco S2's and (later) EMD SW1's and NW2's were the normal power on New River after the SOU took over.

As for the various coal loaders, I shot the remains of three of them back in the early 2000's (photo's attached). The first one is what remains of a truck dump at Hughett on the short spur.

Second photo is of the loadout at Brimstone siding.

Third photo is of the loadout at Sterling siding.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: David Kinser <davidkinser1973@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 16, 2022 10:45 am
Subject: [SouthernRailway] New River Railroad

Looking for info on the New River railway after SR takeover up to abandonment.  Need info on what engines were used and pics of coal loaders 


locked Re: New River Railroad

Ron Stafford
 

I was holding back on answering, this hoping that someone other than myself might have better information and/or photos.

To the best of my knowledge Alco S2's and (later) EMD SW1's and NW2's were the normal power on New River after the SOU took over.

As for the various coal loaders, I shot the remains of three of them back in the early 2000's (photo's attached). The first one is what remains of a truck dump at Hughett on the short spur.

Second photo is of the loadout at Brimstone siding.

Third photo is of the loadout at Sterling siding.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: David Kinser <davidkinser1973@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 16, 2022 10:45 am
Subject: [SouthernRailway] New River Railroad

Looking for info on the New River railway after SR takeover up to abandonment.  Need info on what engines were used and pics of coal loaders 


locked That last minute reminder is at hand - Train show - Dulles Expo Center in Chantilly, Va. THIS weekend

Cohen Bob
 

Okay - here it is - That last minute reminder - the Greenberg Train show - Dulles Expo Center in Chantilly, Va. THIS weekend, August 20-21 - Saturday and Sunday, 2022.

You've had time to get your "honey do" lists completed so there are fewer excuses for not going.

No doubt the usual suspects will be there set up offering their merry wares this week of just about anything and everything imagineable when it comes to railroad and train related items. Whether it is some O-Gauge, HO, N, G, Z or a few others, it should be there "somewhere" this weekend as well as parts, track, new and used goodies as well.

Of course, railroadianna, timetables, books, magazines, videos both new and gently used will likely also be there in force to peruse and add to your holdings of your favorite railroad/s.

Stuff from the Pennsy, B&O, NYC, Southern, N&W and RF&P, will likely not be in short supply especially so.

In addition there will be several operating modular layouts, mostly in the back of the hall, near where the chow is located, and several gauges can be enjoyed by and for the kids of ALL ages.

The hours are 10-4 both days and there is an admission charge good for both days.

Hope to see you there, so come inside where it should be coooooooooooooool.


Bob Cohen


locked New River Railroad

David Kinser <davidkinser1973@...>
 

Looking for info on the New River railway after SR takeover up to abandonment.  Need info on what engines were used and pics of coal loaders 


locked Re: question about 1981 Illinois acquisition

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Thanks Bill, it’s an fairly specific topic and not my timeframe. I’ll let Andy know and tell him about this group.

Sent from Dave Bott's iPhone

On Aug 14, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Bill Schafer <bill4501@...> wrote:

I hi-railed that line not long after it was acquired and took a number of slides, which i have around the house somewhere. I may also have some notes in files that have been sent to the Archives about the traffic on the line and SOU/NS’s tentative plans for it. The active parts of the line were rehabbed at one point before NS pulled the plug, and IIRC, the line was still passable as far as Metropolis. I don’t recall offhand if the line was still intact to Cairo. 

I know this isn’t much, but I’m traveling and it’s the best I can come up with off the top of my head. 

—Bill

Another iPhone-generated message

On Aug 14, 2022, at 07:10, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:







A guy named Andy asked this question on another list. I don’t have an answer.  



Dave Bott








  

 Aug 10

 


Hi,
In 1981, I understand the Southern purchased from Conrail the former NYC Egyptian line from Mt. Carmel, IL to at least as far south as the BN & UP interchange at Karnak, IL for coal business.  

Does anyone have information about the Southern  & NS operations on this line?  I understand that the NS stopped operating on it in 1988 and the tracks were removed around 1990.  Did the Southern/NS operate south of Karnak?

Sincerely,
Andy

Here is a link to a few photos of the Southern on this line:
At Karnak, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760499

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760500

At Tunnel Hill, IL
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760496

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2759917

At Harrisburg, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760494

At Carmi, IL
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4469974

At Brownsville, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4469972 


locked Re: question about 1981 Illinois acquisition

Bill Schafer
 

I hi-railed that line not long after it was acquired and took a number of slides, which i have around the house somewhere. I may also have some notes in files that have been sent to the Archives about the traffic on the line and SOU/NS’s tentative plans for it. The active parts of the line were rehabbed at one point before NS pulled the plug, and IIRC, the line was still passable as far as Metropolis. I don’t recall offhand if the line was still intact to Cairo. 

I know this isn’t much, but I’m traveling and it’s the best I can come up with off the top of my head. 

—Bill

Another iPhone-generated message

On Aug 14, 2022, at 07:10, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:







A guy named Andy asked this question on another list. I don’t have an answer.  



Dave Bott








  

 Aug 10

 


Hi,
In 1981, I understand the Southern purchased from Conrail the former NYC Egyptian line from Mt. Carmel, IL to at least as far south as the BN & UP interchange at Karnak, IL for coal business.  

Does anyone have information about the Southern  & NS operations on this line?  I understand that the NS stopped operating on it in 1988 and the tracks were removed around 1990.  Did the Southern/NS operate south of Karnak?

Sincerely,
Andy

Here is a link to a few photos of the Southern on this line:
At Karnak, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760499

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760500

At Tunnel Hill, IL
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760496

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2759917

At Harrisburg, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760494

At Carmi, IL
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4469974

At Brownsville, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4469972 


locked question about 1981 Illinois acquisition

A&Y Dave in MD
 






A guy named Andy asked this question on another list. I don’t have an answer.  



Dave Bott








  

 Aug 10

 


Hi,
In 1981, I understand the Southern purchased from Conrail the former NYC Egyptian line from Mt. Carmel, IL to at least as far south as the BN & UP interchange at Karnak, IL for coal business.  

Does anyone have information about the Southern  & NS operations on this line?  I understand that the NS stopped operating on it in 1988 and the tracks were removed around 1990.  Did the Southern/NS operate south of Karnak?

Sincerely,
Andy

Here is a link to a few photos of the Southern on this line:
At Karnak, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760499

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760500

At Tunnel Hill, IL
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760496

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2759917

At Harrisburg, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2760494

At Carmi, IL
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4469974

At Brownsville, IL:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4469972 


locked Re: Cowboy Mintz

Robert Hanson
 

I rode a steam trip that he worked in the late 1970's (behind the 610, I believe.)

Cowboy did, indeed, wear a black Stetson-style hat with a gold hat braid (rope?) around the crown and the standard "Southern Railway Conductor" hat badge on it.  This along with a standard SR passenger conductor's uniform.  

Needless to say, he looked sharp!

Sadly, I did not get a photo of him in his regalia.

Bob Hanson
Loganville, GA


-----Original Message-----
From: john w coniglio <jwconiglio@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2022 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Cowboy Mintz

I photographed him on a TV/SR Atlanta trip, early 80s, but not sure which year, which will make it the dickens to find in sheets of negatives. But I'll start shaking the bushes this weekend (after my day job is done). If you score, please advise so I can call off the posse. I recall he wore a large cowboy hat while on duty.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:53 PM Bill Schafer <bill4501@...> wrote:
For an upcoming article in TIES, I’m trying to find a photo of Harold Duane “Cowboy” Mintz in his full Southern Railway uniform. B&W or color. If you can help, send it to editor@....

Thanks.

—Bill Schafer






--
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Read my most recent books, available at

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locked Re: Cowboy Mintz

john w coniglio
 

I photographed him on a TV/SR Atlanta trip, early 80s, but not sure which year, which will make it the dickens to find in sheets of negatives. But I'll start shaking the bushes this weekend (after my day job is done). If you score, please advise so I can call off the posse. I recall he wore a large cowboy hat while on duty.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:53 PM Bill Schafer <bill4501@...> wrote:
For an upcoming article in TIES, I’m trying to find a photo of Harold Duane “Cowboy” Mintz in his full Southern Railway uniform. B&W or color. If you can help, send it to editor@....

Thanks.

—Bill Schafer






--
John W. Coniglio
Read my most recent books, available at

Life's too short to shoot cheap film
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/john.w.coniglio

website: http://www.steamvalley.net
              



locked Cowboy Mintz

Bill Schafer
 

For an upcoming article in TIES, I’m trying to find a photo of Harold Duane “Cowboy” Mintz in his full Southern Railway uniform. B&W or color. If you can help, send it to editor@....

Thanks.

—Bill Schafer


locked Train show season is starting ! Dulles Expo Center August 20-21, 2022

Cohen Bob
 

After a several month lag time here in the Mid-Atlantic, the train shows are restarting once more:

Next up - Dulles Expo Center in Chantilly, Va. on Saturday - Sunday, AUGUST 20-21.

Lots of goodies to peruse from of course, models a plenty, books, magazines, videos, railroadianna, and even several operating layouts for the kids of all ages to enjoy. Deals aplenty await you this weekend.

Yes, there is an admission, good for both days and the hours are 10-4 both days.

You can even do your Wally world shopping in the same complex while there!

All this and much more awaits you in just 10 days from this writing.

Hope to see you there!

Bob Cohen


locked Southern 1401 At Spencer

Will Kesler
 

Are there any photos of Southern #1401 at Spencer Shops? I haven’t seen any but I know there surely are some around. 


locked Re: Southern Grade Crossing Crossbuck Sign c1955

George Eichelberger
 

Yes the Standard Drawing books are available from the Grab. They will also be at the joint convention.

Ike



On Aug 9, 2022, at 7:33 AM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

The SRHA issued books of SR standard drawings and you may look for those.  I'm not sure they still have them
Fenton

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:32 AM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Allen, This is earlier than your time frame but it will be close I'm sure.  My scanner doesn't' have the size to do a good job but you get a good idea from this
Maybe someone will have a better response
Fenton

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:51 AM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
Does anyone have the standard drawing or at least a picture of a Southern Grade Crossing/Crossbuck Sign that would have been used in Tennessee or any other southern states in the 1955 timeframe?  If so, please send a copy to me offline.
 
Thanks,
 
Allen Cain
Modeling The Southern RR in 1955 in HO Scale




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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...