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George Eichelberger
On Sep 3, 2022, at 12:50 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote: Warren:
The individual file on trains 17-18 (Asheville-Murphy) includes 48 documents that have been scanned so far. Someone needs to read through it again but I do not recall anything about motor car services. Post war, the Southern had one “plan” for passenger services of any kind….cutting them off! All of the (scanned) “Individual Train files” will be accessible, if time permits, when the archives is open during the joint SRHA/L&NHS convention and RPM meet to registered attendees (the archives will be closed otherwise). For anyone planning on making a day trip to Chattanooga on Saturday 9-30, the one-day RPM fee is $25.00. That includes entry to any of the clinics, TVRM model railroad layout and the SRHA/L&NHS archives. (There will not be enough manpower available to help with individual research during the convention. There WILL be a mini clinic on “Using prototype documentation” at various times in the archives.) The “Individual Train files” directory includes 5,375 items (8.49GB): General Info Train Discontinuances KC-Florida Spl L&N, TC & NC&StL Memphis Spl 1914 Other Road's passenger svcs Pass Tr consists Pass schedules (multiple trains) Passenger Train Disc Status Passenger Trains - general Pickens Xplorer Pullman Operations SAL-ACL-SCL Passenger Services SEPC and State PUCs Seminole Sou Pac Sou-PRR-PC joint service Tr 1-2 Crescent Tr 1-2 New Albany-Princeton, IN Tr 1-2 Ponce Tr 1-2 Sheffield-Parrish Tr 1-2 St Louis-Louisville Tr 1-2, 3-4 (mail alts) Tr 1-28, 2-27 appl to disc Cincy-Atlanta & Oakdale-Columbia Tr 1-28, 2-27 appl to disc Pullman line 2254 Asheville-Tryon, NC Tr 1-28, 2-27 appl to disc Pullman line 2254 Asheville-Tryon, NC Cover Tr 101-102 Mixed Knoxville-Maryville Tr 107-108 Nancy Hanks Tr 11, 12, 14 & 21 Harrisonburg Branch Tr 11-12 & 7-14 Richmond-Danville, VA Tr 11-12 Asheville-Salisbury Tr 11-12 Atl-Bham Tr 11-12 Columbia-Charleston Tr 11-12-141-142 Monroe-Grnvl Tr 11-14 Birmingham-Columbus, MS Tr 11-16 Bham-Columbus, GA Tr 111-112-13-14 Raleigh Gbo Tr 122, 123, 124, 125 Cochran-Hawkinsville, GA Tr 13 & 14 Tr 1-2 Sheffield-Parrish Tr 13-14 GS&F Valdosta-Palatka mixed Tr 13-14 Richmond Danville Tr 13-14 Winston-Salem - Wilksboro Tr 135 Tocccoa, GA Tr 141-142 Union-Lockhart, SC Tr 15 & 16 Gbo-Asheville Tr 15-16 Asheville-Salisbury Tr 15-16 Cincinnati-Chattanooga Tr 15-16 Mixed Tecumseh-Wilton and Wilton-Selma, AL Tr 15-16 in AL Tr 15-16 in Ky Tr 17-18 & 115-116 Mixed Selma-Akron & Selma Demopolis Tr 17-18 Ashe-Murphy Tr 17-18 Augusta-Branchville Tr 17-18 Birmingham Spl Tr 17-18 Macon-Vidalia (Last psgr train on MD&S) Tr 17-18 Somerset-Pine Knot Tr 17-18 via Bristol and Roanoke Tr 17-45 + 18-46 (with N&W) Tr 19-21-22 Atl Columbus Tr 21-22 Greensboro-Goldsboro Tr 21-22 Raleigh-Goldsboro Tr 21-22 Salisbury-Charlotte Tr 23-24 Louisville-Danville, KY Tr 23-24 in Ill and IN Tr 24-25 Atlanta-Columbus, GA Tr 24-9 Skyland Spl Tr 25-26 Chatt-Washington 1914 Tr 26 GS&F Tr 27-28 Tr 29 Atlanta-DC Tr 29-30 Bham-Atl Tr 3-4 Mixed Toccoa-Elberton, GA Tr 31-32 Atl-Chattanooga Tr 31-32 Augusta-Special Tr 31-32 Disc Tr 31-32 in SC Tr 33 Tr 34, 35 & 36 "Piedmont" Tr 34-35 Raleigh-Greensboro Tr 35-36 Ashe-Knox (1914) Tr 35-36 Ft Valley, GA Tr 36 Atl-WDC Tr 36-36-135-136 Marion Rock Hill Tr 37-38 Carolina Spl Tr 37-38 L&N, A&WP, Sou Crescent Tr 38 Crescent Tr 39-30 Sals-Atl Tr 4-5 (G&F) Augusta-Valdosta Tr 4-5 Florida Sunbeam Tr 40 "New Yorker" Tr 41-42 "Pelican" Tr 41-42 Chatt-York, AL Tr 41-49 Monroe-DC Tr 43-44 Atl-north Tr 43-44 NOLA-Cincinnati Tr 44 Atl-GBO (1914) Tr 45-46 Seminole & City of Miami Tr 45-46 Tennesseean Tr 47-48 "Cracker" Tr 47-48 "Southener" Tr 5-6 Mixed Lula-Athens, GA Tr 5-6 New Royal Palm Tr 5-6 Piedmont Tr 5-6 Rome Tr 5-8 Greensboro- W-S Tr 7 & 8 Bham to Columbus, MS Tr 7-8 Atlanta-Brunswick Tr 7-8 Chattanooga-Tuscumbia, AL Tr 71-170 Coryton-Cumberland Gap mixed Tr 76-77 Clinton-Jellico, TN Tr 8-15 Rome-Chatt 1915 Box 21 File 301 Disc Tr 9-10 Man O'War Tr 9-10 Mixed Bulls Gap-Rogersville Wash Sunset Rte Ad 1907Scan-191018-0001.jpg containerized mail (mty to Intermodal) tr 3-4 Chatt to Valdosta Ike On Sep 3, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: I wonder if Southern ever contemplated passenger motorcar service over this line? Warren D. Stephens
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 08:40:45 PM EDT, Tom Seay via groups.io <duckamuck@...> wrote:
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George Eichelberger
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The individual file on trains 17-18 (Asheville-Murphy) includes 48 documents that have been scanned so far. Someone needs to read through it again but I do not recall anything about motor car services. Post war, the Southern had one “plan” for passenger services of any kind….cutting them off! All of the (scanned) “Individual Train files” will be accessible, if time permits, when the archives is open during the joint SRHA/L&NHS convention and RPM meet to registered attendees (the archives will be closed otherwise). For anyone planning on making a day trip to Chattanooga on Saturday 9-30, the one-day RPM fee is $25.00. That includes entry to any of the clinics, TVRM model railroad layout and the SRHA/L&NHS archives. (There will not be enough manpower available to help with individual research during the convention. There WILL be a mini clinic on “Using prototype documentation” at various times in the archives.) The “Individual Train files” directory includes 5,375 items (8.49GB): General Info Train Discontinuances KC-Florida Spl L&N, TC & NC&StL Memphis Spl 1914 Other Road's passenger svcs Pass Tr consists Pass schedules (multiple trains) Passenger Train Disc Status Passenger Trains - general Pickens Xplorer Pullman Operations SAL-ACL-SCL Passenger Services SEPC and State PUCs Seminole Sou Pac Sou-PRR-PC joint service Tr 1-2 Crescent Tr 1-2 New Albany-Princeton, IN Tr 1-2 Ponce Tr 1-2 Sheffield-Parrish Tr 1-2 St Louis-Louisville Tr 1-2, 3-4 (mail alts) Tr 1-28, 2-27 appl to disc Cincy-Atlanta & Oakdale-Columbia Tr 1-28, 2-27 appl to disc Pullman line 2254 Asheville-Tryon, NC Tr 1-28, 2-27 appl to disc Pullman line 2254 Asheville-Tryon, NC Cover Tr 101-102 Mixed Knoxville-Maryville Tr 107-108 Nancy Hanks Tr 11, 12, 14 & 21 Harrisonburg Branch Tr 11-12 & 7-14 Richmond-Danville, VA Tr 11-12 Asheville-Salisbury Tr 11-12 Atl-Bham Tr 11-12 Columbia-Charleston Tr 11-12-141-142 Monroe-Grnvl Tr 11-14 Birmingham-Columbus, MS Tr 11-16 Bham-Columbus, GA Tr 111-112-13-14 Raleigh Gbo Tr 122, 123, 124, 125 Cochran-Hawkinsville, GA Tr 13 & 14 Tr 1-2 Sheffield-Parrish Tr 13-14 GS&F Valdosta-Palatka mixed Tr 13-14 Richmond Danville Tr 13-14 Winston-Salem - Wilksboro Tr 135 Tocccoa, GA Tr 141-142 Union-Lockhart, SC Tr 15 & 16 Gbo-Asheville Tr 15-16 Asheville-Salisbury Tr 15-16 Cincinnati-Chattanooga Tr 15-16 Mixed Tecumseh-Wilton and Wilton-Selma, AL Tr 15-16 in AL Tr 15-16 in Ky Tr 17-18 & 115-116 Mixed Selma-Akron & Selma Demopolis Tr 17-18 Ashe-Murphy Tr 17-18 Augusta-Branchville Tr 17-18 Birmingham Spl Tr 17-18 Macon-Vidalia (Last psgr train on MD&S) Tr 17-18 Somerset-Pine Knot Tr 17-18 via Bristol and Roanoke Tr 17-45 + 18-46 (with N&W) Tr 19-21-22 Atl Columbus Tr 21-22 Greensboro-Goldsboro Tr 21-22 Raleigh-Goldsboro Tr 21-22 Salisbury-Charlotte Tr 23-24 Louisville-Danville, KY Tr 23-24 in Ill and IN Tr 24-25 Atlanta-Columbus, GA Tr 24-9 Skyland Spl Tr 25-26 Chatt-Washington 1914 Tr 26 GS&F Tr 27-28 Tr 29 Atlanta-DC Tr 29-30 Bham-Atl Tr 3-4 Mixed Toccoa-Elberton, GA Tr 31-32 Atl-Chattanooga Tr 31-32 Augusta-Special Tr 31-32 Disc Tr 31-32 in SC Tr 33 Tr 34, 35 & 36 "Piedmont" Tr 34-35 Raleigh-Greensboro Tr 35-36 Ashe-Knox (1914) Tr 35-36 Ft Valley, GA Tr 36 Atl-WDC Tr 36-36-135-136 Marion Rock Hill Tr 37-38 Carolina Spl Tr 37-38 L&N, A&WP, Sou Crescent Tr 38 Crescent Tr 39-30 Sals-Atl Tr 4-5 (G&F) Augusta-Valdosta Tr 4-5 Florida Sunbeam Tr 40 "New Yorker" Tr 41-42 "Pelican" Tr 41-42 Chatt-York, AL Tr 41-49 Monroe-DC Tr 43-44 Atl-north Tr 43-44 NOLA-Cincinnati Tr 44 Atl-GBO (1914) Tr 45-46 Seminole & City of Miami Tr 45-46 Tennesseean Tr 47-48 "Cracker" Tr 47-48 "Southener" Tr 5-6 Mixed Lula-Athens, GA Tr 5-6 New Royal Palm Tr 5-6 Piedmont Tr 5-6 Rome Tr 5-8 Greensboro- W-S Tr 7 & 8 Bham to Columbus, MS Tr 7-8 Atlanta-Brunswick Tr 7-8 Chattanooga-Tuscumbia, AL Tr 71-170 Coryton-Cumberland Gap mixed Tr 76-77 Clinton-Jellico, TN Tr 8-15 Rome-Chatt 1915 Box 21 File 301 Disc Tr 9-10 Man O'War Tr 9-10 Mixed Bulls Gap-Rogersville Wash Sunset Rte Ad 1907Scan-191018-0001.jpg containerized mail (mty to Intermodal) tr 3-4 Chatt to Valdosta Ike On Sep 3, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: I wonder if Southern ever contemplated passenger motorcar service over this line? Warren D. Stephens
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 08:40:45 PM EDT, Tom Seay via groups.io <duckamuck@...> wrote:
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Warren Stephens
I wonder if Southern ever contemplated passenger motorcar service over this line? Warren D. Stephens
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 08:40:45 PM EDT, Tom Seay via groups.io <duckamuck@...> wrote:
Passenger service from Asheville to Murphy NC ended 15 July 1948. The Great Smoky Mountains Railroad operates tourist excursions out of Bryson City NC. —Tom Seay
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Tom Seay
Passenger service from Asheville to Murphy NC ended 15 July 1948. The Great Smoky Mountains Railroad operates tourist excursions out of Bryson City NC. —Tom Seay
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Re: NKP Car Company sides for The Tennessean
Looks good Doug, can't wait to see the total train Fenton On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 10:47 AM Doug Alexander <doug_alexander@...> wrote: I’m in the process of building the Southerner using Union Station products. So far, I’ve only done dining car Virginia. --
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I’m in the process of building the Southerner using Union Station products. So far, I’ve only done dining car Virginia.
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Re: Need timetable help
aramsay18
Hello Jim and ALCON I have Southern passenger service timetables back to the 1890s. In a 1950 Southern passenger timetable there is freight service only to Murphy NC. No Murphy division is listed. There are a number of passenger service trains to/from Asheville NC but nothing uniquely Asheville division (the Asheville Division is listed frequently together with others providing service to numerous destinations in the Southern system). However there was the Asheville Special Coach and Pullman (Table J1) originating in Boston MA (on the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad) connecting to the PRR in New York, then on the PRR and onto the Southern in Washington, then to Asheville with quite a number of intermediate points. In the Oct. 1907 and Sept. 1908 Southern passenger service timetables there are listings for the "Murphy Division" which shows passenger service between Asheville and Murphy NC with quite a few intermediate points. There are several other listings relevant to Asheville. Only the one listing for Murphy NC (the Murphy Division). In the June 1905 and August 1906 Southern passenger service timetables the "Murphy Division" was listed as the "Asheville Division" providing service Asheville/Murphy. Evidently from the timetables the "Asheville Division" changed to the "Murphy Division" circa 1907. I'll speculate that when passenger service to Murphy NC was dropped, Southern changed the division name changed back to "Asheville Division" but I won't be able to narrow down a date range for a week or so. (I see part of the former "Murphy Branch" is in use today but in different ownership.) Timetables aimed at the tourist trade titled "Principal Cities and Resorts of the South" in 1898, 1902, 1903, 1904, and 1910 list Asheville as a point of service but in a higher level context (principal cities), lacking anything about Murphy and associated details I imagine you want. Shortly I will have Southern passenger service timetables at hand for 1920, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1940, and 1944. (Passenger service to Murphy and intermediate points may have been reinstated during the war.) I'll pass along those results if that helps. There is a lot of history concerning the "Murphy Branch," including the Southern's predecessors Richmond and Danville and the WNCR. You might want to refer to this book "George, Michael. Southern Railway's Murphy Branch. Collegedale TN: The College Press, 1996." There are used softcover copies for sale $19.95 on AbeBooks at this link: If you want timetable details, I can take pictures/make scans of whatever is relevant (I have a large flatbed scanner.) Best Regards from Berryville VA Andrew Ramsay On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 6:52 AM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
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Hi Jack, Thanks for the time line. Were there also specific Crescent cars? Thanks, Patrick
On Thursday, September 1, 2022, 11:59:35 AM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
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C J Wyatt
Thanks Ike. Not a bad price for brass. Jack
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:33:48 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Jack: Per my earlier post, a complete train would cost about $1,200. Bill Harris at Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, (270) 994-2555, has one or two sets (?) available. Ike PS None of the cars on the list below are for either train, the Tennessean and Southerner cars for the 1941 trains were built by P-S . (The Tennessean ran shadow-lined painted HWT Pullmans behind the flat-end obs, the Southerner was coach only.) The only consist changes I have seen during the war was one car from the Memphis train was moved to the New Orleans train for wartime traffic after it was determined a single E-6 could keep the Southerner’s schedule with an eight car train. On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:59 AM, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote: The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
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George Eichelberger
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Per my earlier post, a complete train would cost about $1,200. Bill Harris at Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, (270) 994-2555, has one or two sets (?) available. Ike PS None of the cars on the list below are for either train, the Tennessean and Southerner cars for the 1941 trains were built by P-S . (The Tennessean ran shadow-lined painted HWT Pullmans behind the flat-end obs, the Southerner was coach only.) The only consist changes I have seen during the war was one car from the Memphis train was moved to the New Orleans train for wartime traffic after it was determined a single E-6 could keep the Southerner’s schedule with an eight car train. On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:59 AM, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote: The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
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C J Wyatt
The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
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I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
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Don't think I have anything that old but will check Fenton On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:43 PM Jim King <jimking3@...> wrote:
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Jim King
I’m looking for Asheville Division timetables from the teens, 20s, 30s, up to mid 40s, for a Murphy Branch project. Photocopies are welcome or I can scan your original and return it with a scan file for your records. Asheville Division may have been called something else at one time. I’ve also read that the Murphy Branch was called Murphy Division “way back when”.
No luck with railroad book dealers (Railpub, Ron’s), ebay or Amazon.
Jim King http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
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Kevin Kell
Patrick: The website that I have record of is NKPCARCO.com. It is still live, but has not been updated in a while. Kevin
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 07:41:31 AM CDT, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:
Thanks Kevin, Was simply looking for the NKP Car Company information on those kits. Were they only offered to your organization or were they available to anyone? What cars were available, what was included in the kits and what did they cost? At this point in time, I don't need any factual construction/prototypical info, unless it is available online to the public (ie, no membership required). Can't see traveling to TVRM, whatever that is. Thanks, Patrick
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022, 08:19:05 AM EDT, Kevin Kell <kkell11@...> wrote:
Patrick: The July-August 1991 issue of the Ties was devoted to the SOUTHERNERand the TENNESSEAN, and provides some good information as a starting point for modeling. Regards,
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Thanks Kevin, Was simply looking for the NKP Car Company information on those kits. Were they only offered to your organization or were they available to anyone? What cars were available, what was included in the kits and what did they cost? At this point in time, I don't need any factual construction/prototypical info, unless it is available online to the public (ie, no membership required). Can't see traveling to TVRM, whatever that is. Thanks, Patrick
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022, 08:19:05 AM EDT, Kevin Kell <kkell11@...> wrote:
Patrick: The July-August 1991 issue of the Ties was devoted to the SOUTHERNERand the TENNESSEAN, and provides some good information as a starting point for modeling. Regards,
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Yes! I was “shocked” to find they even existed. Someone will make good use of them…and the data on the cars in the SRHA archives…. I already have the PSC sets and several of the NKP kits or I would have bought them on the spot. I think (!) the price was about $1,200. Ike On Aug 30, 2022, at 10:33 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi Ike, Is this info open to the public? Regards, Patrick
On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:26:08 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Patrick: I’m reasonably sure virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM. Ike PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555. On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi, Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show. Very little supplemental information was provided. Did not see any info on the NKP site. Anyone know which cars were offered? TIA, Patrick |
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Hi Ike, Is this info open to the public? Regards, Patrick
On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:26:08 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Patrick: I’m reasonably sure virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM. Ike PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555. On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi, Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show. Very little supplemental information was provided. Did not see any info on the NKP site. Anyone know which cars were offered? TIA, Patrick |
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[lnhs-newsletter] 2022 Convention Schedule of Events and Special Instructions
George Eichelberger
All: Planning for the joint SRHA/L&NHS/RPM at TVRM in Chattanooga is moving ahead. The Saturday dinner train is sold out but everything else will be available. Join us if you can….and bring your Southern, Central of Georgia and L&N models! Ike Begin forwarded message: From: "Jeffrey Carlyle" <jeffrey@...> Subject: [lnhs-newsletter] 2022 Convention Schedule of Events and Special Instructions Date: August 30, 2022 at 5:35:45 PM EDT Reply-To: lnhs-newsletter+owner@groups.io Joint Convention Railroad Prototype Modelers Meeting Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum Chattanooga, Tennessee September 29-October 1, 2022 Schedule of Events & Special Instructions (Revision 8/22/22; Subject to Change as Necessary) Event Locations: Exhibit Building Main Floor: Model displays, Vendors, Swap meet, Modular O Scale Layout, Photo Displays; Space to be locked each night at closing. Exhibit Building Upstairs Meeting Room: Guest Speaker, Clinics. Exhibit Building Office/Classroom: Clinics. Note: Upstairs events will be live streamed at foot of the stairway for accommodation of physical limitations. Archive Building: L&NHS & SRHA Archives; Special Guided tours for groups up to 10. HQ Building Main Floor: Clinics. HQ Building Basement: TVRM Model Railroad. Grand Junction Depot: Lunch, Friday Evening Dinner, Ladies Tea, Missionary Ridge Local Departures & Arrivals. Soule Shop: Special Guided Tour on Friday; Take 1:30 pm Missionary Ridge Local from Depot. Transportation & Parking All activities are on the TVRM campus except for railfanning & layout tour. A railfan guide will be available at registration as well as a map to layout open for visitation. Walking between events on the campus is encouraged and 15 minutes are generally allotted for that. A golf cart will be available if needed. Attendees may also park personal cars for free at any one of four parking areas near each campus event location as shown on the map available at registration. Cars may be moved between lots as needed. TVRM operates the Missionary Ridge Local from the Grand Junction Depot following a regular published schedule. Convention registrants may ride this local as often as desired Thursday-Saturday using their identification badge as a ticket. TVRM offers other train rides not included in the convention schedule; consult the TVRM website for schedules, departure locations, and ticket costs. In the event of inclement weather, announcements will be made at the registration desk. Tentative Speakers & Topics Consult the detailed daily schedule for times & locations. Doug Alexander Southern PS-4’s Mark Brainard Refrigerator Car Overview; with Hands-on Tour Steve Cawood History of Middlesboro, KY & Cumberland Gap Railroads Rusty Evans Modeling Southern Railway Cabooses Ron Flanary The Art of Railroad Photography David Godwin Photographing Railroad Models Tom Knowles NC&StL Cowan Tunnel Jeff Kuebler Modeling the L&N Eastern Kentucky Subdivision Dave Queener Early Southern Freight Cars Bill Schaffer Operations Around Selma, AL; Southern & L&N Josh Singletary Modeling a L&N GP-35 Lee Singletary L&NHS Modeling Committee Update; Train Show Activities Paul Spillman Southern Saluda Mountain Stuart Thayer L&N Unit Coal Train Operations George Walker NC&StL/L&N Sequatchie Valley Branch; History & Modeling Robert West Life of a Pullman Porter John Wilkes Modeling Appalachian Coal Tipples; Kentucky & Southwest Virginia Special Guest Speaker Davidson Ward: President, FMW Solutions LLC; Steam Locomotive Restoration Update Special Events Dedication of L&NHS Archives; Dedication of the SRHA Jim Wrinn Photo Archive Ladies “Railroad Tea” “Up Close & Personal” with Southern 4501 Swap Meet Sale and Vendor Tables Tour of TVRM Model Railroad Registration Advanced registration available through TVRM & society websites: www.tvrail.com, www.lnrr.org, www.srha.net Note that the dinner train has sold out. |
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