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Will Kesler
 

Thanks guys but I was taking about in revenue service sorry for the misunderstanding. But anyways why was 542 at Pomona? I saw a picture in Pomona yard after being retired in 1954.


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A&Y Dave in MD
 

http://southern-railway.railfan.net/ay/equipment/loco/ay542.htm

Scroll to bottom for images at Spencer.

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott's iPhone

On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Does anyone have any pictures of Southern 542 on their hands at the moment? I’m looking for picture of it at Spencer.


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O Fenton Wells
 

Here's one I took the day they  rolled it out of the shop at Spencer 


On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:34 PM Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:
Picture like this :



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John Willis
 


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George Eichelberger
 

SRHA has pictures of 542, but they are all at Pomona.

Ike

On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

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Will Kesler
 

Picture like this :


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Will Kesler
 

Does anyone have any pictures of Southern 542 on their hands at the moment? I’m looking for picture of it at Spencer.


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George Eichelberger
 

I’ve mentioned them enough, here a photo of the first of the two Outside Swing Hanger Six Wheel Trucks TVRM acquired to put under Southern Office Car 21. 
They are the same style that Southern used when it replaced the original Pullman, “Point Richmond”, trucks in the 60s. (I understand they were the last such pair built by General Steel Castings. The replacements that Southern put under OC-21 were sold by its previous owner after they bought NS-8 from Norfolk Southern. They are now under the business car the New Orleans Public Belt has for sale.)

With some luck, the car will be in service for the joint SRHA-L&NHS convention at TVRM 9-30/10-1.

Even with the roller bearing wheel sets, cash will help the project “move along”. I’m sure a donation from anyone to TVRM interesting preserving, operating (and riding in!) a Southern Railway “official car” would be appreciated and put to good use.

Ike



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George Eichelberger
 

Will:

As you may be aware, TVRM is celebrating its 60th anniversary this year. In my opinion (I’m not an officer, only a member, certainly not speaking for the museum) it is the finest operating railroad museum in the Southeast. Three years ago, an eight year old, 9,000 sq. ft. building just across Turntable Road from the Grand Junction property came available, TVRM with help from SRHA members, acquired it as an archives facility and TVRM support building. (I’ve attached a photo). Recently, the Louisville & Nashville Historical Society upgraded another part of the facility and moved their archives from Bolling Green, KY. The L&NHS archives will be dedicated during the SRHA-L&NHS joint convention 9-30/10-1.

Early last year another (approx 10,000 sq. ft.) building came on the market, also adjacent to the TVRM Grand Junction property. Again, with help from SRHA, members, TVRM purchased it. It contains first class offices, conference room, a kitchen and a (est.) 5,000 sq. ft. exhibit area, all with modern lighting and HVAC equipment.

That building will, for the first time in 60 years, provide TVRM with a permanent indoor, all year, railroad museum. The building will be doubled in size and a two track train shed will provide cover for multiple pieces of TVRM locomotives and rolling stock.

As must be obvious, this will be an expensive multi year project. I have no doubt TVRM will accept ideas and assistance of any kind. Many of the joint convention clinics and RPM display area will be in the exhibit building with activities also at the archives, headquarters and Grand Junction depot (not to mention the Shop at East Chattanooga and TVRM trains)!

Join us at the convention, 10-30/11-1, any SRHA archives work session or whenever you can get to Chattanooga.

Ike





On Jun 26, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Could you tell me more about this exhibit and what’s it meant for?


locked Re: Southern Railway Bells

Will Kesler
 

Could you tell me more about this exhibit and what’s it meant for?


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George Eichelberger
 

If anyone has Southern items, such as bells, whistles, headlights station signs, etc., you might consider donating them to SRHA or TVRM to be used in the TVRM Exhibit building displays.  

At present, planning is mostly for the “brick and mortar” additions planned for the complex in addition to the existing 10,000 sq ft building. Those include an extension to the exhibit building, a new restroom “pod”, rolling stock display shed and turntable. (A roundhouse will follow.)

Individual inside and outside displays will be dedicated to the railroads of the Tennessee Valley, Pullman, express, mail and dining car services, car, diesel and steam loco components and models in several scales showing the development of rolling stock over the years. A feature will be Gen. J.D. Smith’s custom made, full HO size, Cumberland River bridge, approximately twelve feet from end to end. The bridge “kit” was constructed using Southern Railway plans provided to General Smith by Graham Claytor when they were both at the Pentagon.

If anyone would like to donate or assist, contact archives@... and we’ll make sure your information is forwarded.

Ike




On Jun 26, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Thank you for clarifying. There’s actually a bell at a school near me from a Southern Ks-1 #755 and there’s a house I’ve seen around with a southern bell mounted just in plain site. Hope it doesn’t get stolen but they weren’t selling as I remember.


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Will Kesler
 

In the game Kitbashing is using different model parts to make an engine basically exactly like how you with a real model.


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Will Kesler
 

No that’s not what I meant I’m not doing anything illegal. I just wanted to know if I could show pictures of stuff I’ve worked on in a game called Trainz that involves southern engines. But I should probably do that in the modeling group. 


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milepost 131
 

Kit-bashing is when some BUYS several models and uses those parts he/she bought to build something else for THEIR private use.
To "borrow code" to build a new set of code without giving credit plus trying to resell would be piracy and stealing intellectual property (unless it is not shared in any manner for others to utilize.
Example: if someone were to take someone else's sound file (without permission or credit) modify it  and try to resell it as a new product.
As for kit-bashing ... I learned from a pack of rivet counters who never even shared parts with each other.

As an attorney taught when I was about twelve years old, "If you are not sure whether you should do something; don't do it."




Gordon Andrews   
 On 6/26/2022 4:05 PM, Will Kesler wrote:

Am I allowed to showcase some of the Southern things I’ve been working on in a 3d game called Trainz? I don’t know if the term Kitbashing is also used in actual modeling but I think it might be, it’s also used for this game when you take parts from other engines and change them around to basically online model your desired engine. Just making sure if I can show that here.


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locked Re: 3d Kitbashing Showcasing

Will Kesler
 

Actually now that I think about it this should probably go into the modeling group as it is a form of modeling.  


locked 3d Kitbashing Showcasing

Will Kesler
 

Am I allowed to showcase some of the Southern things I’ve been working on in a 3d game called Trainz? I don’t know if the term Kitbashing is also used in actual modeling but I think it might be, it’s also used for this game when you take parts from other engines and change them around to basically online model your desired engine. Just making sure if I can show that here.


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Will Kesler
 

Thank you for clarifying. There’s actually a bell at a school near me from a Southern Ks-1 #755 and there’s a house I’ve seen around with a southern bell mounted just in plain site. Hope it doesn’t get stolen but they weren’t selling as I remember.


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George Eichelberger
 

We call it the "bell box” as a place to keep everything on the subject together, the Southern did not use the term. It most certainly does not represent EVERY Southern steam locomotive bell, probably only the requests that went to headquarters in Washington, but it’s a clue that could lead to some number of churches or other buildings where they are now. Note that the bells do not (at least typically) have a locomotive number stamped or engraved on them. I expect it is not possible to know which engine a particular bell came from.

Carl Ardrey has looked through the box more than I, maybe he can estimate how many the file covers?

Ike

PS Like most everything else in the archives (documents, drawings and photos surely number in the hundreds of thousands) we need help sorting cataloging and scanning to allow items to be located and used. In addition to the 3rd and 4th Friday and Saturday of each month work session, the archives will be open at various times during the SRHA-L&NHS joint convention and RPM meet 9-30/10-1.



On Jun 26, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:

Are you serious that’s awesome, I didn’t know they had a bell box??? I wouldn’t even expect something like that too exist. Since I live in North Carolina, I think I wouldn’t be able to get up there soon. Is the bell box able to be photographed so I can see what’s on there or is it mixed up with letters?


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Carl Ardrey
 

The "bell box" is a Gaylord archive box containing all the correspondence between the various organizations requesting bells and the Southern.  It does not document the locomotive the bells came from.
CEA

On 06/26/2022 2:02 PM Will Kesler <williamkesler354@...> wrote:


Are you serious that’s awesome, I didn’t know they had a bell box??? I wouldn’t even expect something like that too exist. Since I live in North Carolina, I think I wouldn’t be able to get up there soon. Is the bell box able to be photographed so I can see what’s on there or is it mixed up with letters?


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C J Wyatt
 

I think a biography of Samuel Spencer would be an interesting book / history PhD dissertation.

Jack Wyatt

On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 12:38:20 PM EDT, aramsay18 <aramsay37@...> wrote:


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I'm seeking material detailing how J. P. Morgan established the SRW as a corporate entity working with Samuel Spencer in 1893 and 1894.  (Very unfortunately for the Southern and the US railroad industry in general, Spencer was killed in a train accident in Nov. 1906.)

Best Regards from Berryville Virginia

Andy Ramsay