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Locked Southern Grade Crossing Crossbuck Sign c1955

Allen Cain
 

Does anyone have the standard drawing or at least a picture of a Southern Grade Crossing/Crossbuck Sign that would have been used in Tennessee or any other southern states in the 1955 timeframe?  If so, please send a copy to me offline.
 
Thanks,
 
Allen Cain
Modeling The Southern RR in 1955 in HO Scale


Locked Original Big John Lettering

George Eichelberger
 

The attached Southern memo from the SRHA archives* (dated 12-3-59) is the only documentation found that discusses the stencil change for the two-bay 100-ton aluminum covered hoppers from Roman to block lettering. Apparently, the change occurred as Magor began building them (Sou 4000-4199) so only cars 4000-4003 needed to be re-lettered. (There is currently a discussion of “kit bashing” the 2-bay cars from undecorated ExactRail Big John kits on the “Modeling the Southern.io” group.)

When Southern asked the car builders to quote a larger 100-ton, cu ft capy. covered hopper for grain, Magor responded by simply adding two bays to their 2,605 cu. ft version. (Versions of the Magor 4-bay “Big John” covered hoppers used different General Arrangement drawings, had different dimensions and capacities.)

Stencil drawing SF-1625**, drawn 4-3-62 shows the first “block” stencil lettering on the four bay cars. (The drawing does not show “Big John” lettering, that came after the first cars were in service.) Some number (all?) of the first order of the 4-bay cars were given Roman style lettering. Most cars built with that lettering style were not in service until after the Supreme Court ”Big John” case was settled in Southern’s favor and 100-ton tariffs could be filed. Until then, only shipments for the US Gov’t and intra state services could be used.

* SRHA has only a few documents from the Coster Shop files. If anyone knows of any documents from the shop before it was demolished, please send me a note.

**SRHA can provide copies of drawings in the archives if there is enough interest. I’ve received very comments indicating any interest or suggested pricing. Please send any ideas to archives@....

Anyone interested in Southern rolling stock of any date and type is welcome to come to SRHA archives work sessions the third Friday and Saturday of every month. Contact archives@... if more information is needed.

Ike


Locked Hays T Watkins - 96 Years 1/26/26 -7 /29/2022

Cohen Bob
 

Just in case you had not already heard ..........



Hays T. Watkins

January 26 1926 - July 29 2022

Hays T. Watkins Jr., a soft-spoken Kentuckian who made the CSX merger a classic success, is dead at the age of 96.


Hays died Friday after complications from a fall, his son Tom Watkins has reported.


“Hays Watkins without a doubt was and to this day remains the person with the highest degrees of integrity and honesty I ever worked with — or encountered,” said Thomas E. Hoppin, CSX’s former vice president of corporate communications.

Watkins was known for being a man of his word who always tried to understand the other side of whatever he was dealing with, whether it be a person or an issue, and that’s what made the CSX merger work.

In 1978 Watkins, chairman of the Chessie System, approached Seaboard Coast Line about a union, and he and SCL’s new CEO, Prime F. Osborn, negotiated the deal.

In the ill-fated Penn Central merger 10 years earlier the leaders of the two lines had clashed. “That,” Watkins said, “is why we had our 50/50 merger, Prime and I agreed on everything, and if the two of us didn’t agree, we didn’t do it.” The two shared the title of CEO, and half the company’s top officers were from the Seaboard and half from the Chessie. Even the board was split evenly, and the headquarters was set up in a neutral city, Richmond.

Two years into the merger Osborn, 67, retired, and Watkins became CSX’s sole CEO.

Watkins had fallen in love with trains as a boy, and after college he went to work in the finance department of the Chesapeake and Ohio, which seemed a natural fit since. as a four-year-old. Watkins had been noticed for his prowess with numbers.

By the mid 1960s Watkins was C&O’s vice president-finance, and in 1971, following the Penn Central bankruptcy, he was chosen the railroad’s president and chief executive. He was selected in part because he had foreseen the pending bankruptcy of Penn Central and had buffered the C&O’s car-hire accounts with PC, reducing the Chessie’s loss.

One of Watkins’ greatest achievements was the transformation of the railroads into a multi-modal company. He bought a gas company to hedge against rising fuel costs, and with it came a pipeline company and the nation’s largest barge line.

Then he formed a trucking subsidiary and bought Sea-Land Service, the world’s largest container line, making CSX one of the world’s premier transport companies. Decades later most of Sea-Land and the barge line were sold.

Watkins retired in 1991 after a 40-year career that spanned some of the industry’s most tumultuous years. “It was an interesting time. I can say that,” he recalled. “I don’t know whether I’d want to go through it again because there were a lot of sharp turns, but it was fascinating.”

Watkins was born in the Louisville suburb of Fern Creek, Ky., on Jan. 26, 1926. He earned a bachelor’s degree from Bowling Green Business University (now Western Kentucky University) in 1947 and a master’s degree from Northwestern University in 1948, and served in the U.S. Army. He is survived by his wife of 72 years, Betty; son H. Thomas Watkins III; three grandchildren and a great grandchild.


A memorial service will be held Aug. 5, 2022, at the Powell Chapel at the Second Baptist Church, 9615 River Road, in Richmond, Va. In lieu of flowers, the family is requesting donations to the Second Baptist Church.


Please keep Hays and the Watkins family in your thoughts and prayers .


Greg Webster RABO Wire Chief / E.Ray Lichty / Trains Magazine 



RABO CLUB | 13285 Pecky Cypress Dr., Jacksonville, FL 32223





Locked Re: Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

DOUG NIXON
 

Yes sir, the CTC equipment is in storage at Spencer at the NC Transportation Museum. 

Doug



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A52 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Wick Moorman <cwmoorman@...>
Date: 7/28/22 2:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

This brings back a lot of memories!  In the late 70's I was a track supervisor under Jack Greene, for whom Bill also worked, and I then was there again as the division engineer in the mid-80's when Jack retired. I met my wife there when I was track supervisor, and she still remembers the "big yellow" SR pick-up truck that I used to drive!.  Glad to see that the building is being saved. Someone will correct this, but I seem to remember that the CTC boards went to the Spencer museum?
WIck Moorman

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 10:15 AM Preston Clark <prestonclark@...> wrote:


Locked Re: Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

Wick Moorman
 

This brings back a lot of memories!  In the late 70's I was a track supervisor under Jack Greene, for whom Bill also worked, and I then was there again as the division engineer in the mid-80's when Jack retired. I met my wife there when I was track supervisor, and she still remembers the "big yellow" SR pick-up truck that I used to drive!.  Glad to see that the building is being saved. Someone will correct this, but I seem to remember that the CTC boards went to the Spencer museum?
WIck Moorman

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 10:15 AM Preston Clark <prestonclark@...> wrote:


Locked Re: Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

Rodney Shu
 

The photo of Southern RR station in Greensboro brought back a lot of memories. My father worked out of this building as a Trainmaster in the late '40s and was Superintendent of the Danville Division from 1952 to 1962 which included the main line from Monroe, Va. to Salsberry, NC .  That was way before pagers or cell phones so he would stop by "The Office" to check on things frequently at night and on weekends. My brother and I would always accompany him to the dispatcher's office which was located on the right rear corner of the second floor. Back then just about every railroad man was a smoker and the train order/ CTC area was usually full of smoke. My father's office was also on the second floor in the front which made for a great view of the Christmas Parade that crossed the tracks from the "old" part of Greensboro an continued through downtown.

Rod Shu
Birmingham, AL
 
 


From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Schafer <bill4501@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 11:18 AM
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored
 
That’s right, Jason. When I hired on in 1971, I worked for J. E. Greene, Division Engineer, whose office was in the back and overlooked the parking lot. This was my “home” until I was promoted in the spring of 1972. Bill Roby, who followed me by a few years, was a management trainee here too, as well as Wick Moorman. At the other end of the building (the end facing Elm Street) was the Eastern Division offices on the second floor. The superintendent’s office was in the rounded part of the building, while to the left of his office was the dispatchers’ office. While the building wasn’t totally abandoned after the Eastern Division was combined with the Piedmont Division in the late-1980s (I believe) and moved to Greenville, much of it stayed vacant - IIRC, after that only the first floor was occupied by - I think - sales, claims, and police departments. Eventually the building became a magnet for folks who didn’t belong there, and there was talk at NS of tearing down the structure. 

I’m much relieved that it apparently will be saved and I hope restored to its original exterior appearance, which includes a peaked roof and a “witches hat” roof over the rounded portion of the building. 

—Bill

On Jul 26, 2022, at 11:51, Jason Greene <jason.p.greene@...> wrote:

Bill S. can clarify as his first office was in this building I believe, but wasn’t this the Division offices for years as well?

Jason Greene 

On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Preston Clark <prestonclark@...> wrote:



Locked Re: Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

Bill Schafer
 

That’s right, Jason. When I hired on in 1971, I worked for J. E. Greene, Division Engineer, whose office was in the back and overlooked the parking lot. This was my “home” until I was promoted in the spring of 1972. Bill Roby, who followed me by a few years, was a management trainee here too, as well as Wick Moorman. At the other end of the building (the end facing Elm Street) was the Eastern Division offices on the second floor. The superintendent’s office was in the rounded part of the building, while to the left of his office was the dispatchers’ office. While the building wasn’t totally abandoned after the Eastern Division was combined with the Piedmont Division in the late-1980s (I believe) and moved to Greenville, much of it stayed vacant - IIRC, after that only the first floor was occupied by - I think - sales, claims, and police departments. Eventually the building became a magnet for folks who didn’t belong there, and there was talk at NS of tearing down the structure. 

I’m much relieved that it apparently will be saved and I hope restored to its original exterior appearance, which includes a peaked roof and a “witches hat” roof over the rounded portion of the building. 

—Bill

On Jul 26, 2022, at 11:51, Jason Greene <jason.p.greene@...> wrote:

Bill S. can clarify as his first office was in this building I believe, but wasn’t this the Division offices for years as well?

Jason Greene 

On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Preston Clark <prestonclark@...> wrote:



Locked Re: Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

Jason Greene
 

Bill S. can clarify as his first office was in this building I believe, but wasn’t this the Division offices for years as well?

Jason Greene 

On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Preston Clark <prestonclark@...> wrote:


I'm glad to finally hear about this happening:

A partnership group agrees to buy a historic Triad train station.
www.bizjournals.com
Preston Clark
#9704


Locked Southern Railway Depot in Downtown Greensboro to be Restored

Preston Clark
 

I'm glad to finally hear about this happening:

A partnership group agrees to buy a historic Triad train station.
www.bizjournals.com
Preston Clark
#9704


Locked SRHA Archives August Work Session

George Eichelberger
 

The August SRHA Archives work session will be the usual third Friday and Saturday of the month, Aug 19 and 20. As the third weekend in September is close to the Sept 30/ Oct 1 dates of the SRHA-L&NHS joint convention RPM meet, that session is cancelled.

We expect much of August session efforts will be to move things, organize and simply clean up the archives to get ready for the convention/RPM. We can use whoever can join us to help.

IF (!) there is interest is anyone going to the archives to work or do research in early September, send a note to archives@... and we’ll see if something can be organized.

Before the convention/RPM, make plans to attend (the dinner train is sold out) and bring your favorite models to display in the RPM.

Ike


Locked Scanned Southern Freight Car Card Lists

George Eichelberger
 

I’ve attached  the list of Southern freight car drawing indexes (“card lists”) that have been scanned. They are the best source for finding Southern produced drawings for freight cars. In many cases, the Southern drawings were traced from carbuilder drawings then given Southern drawing numbers. Card lists may or may not show carbuilder drawing numbers (they mostly do not). That became more of a problem in the late 60s/early 70s when the railroad stopped tracing most drawings. (I’ve attached a atypical Card List page showing both.) The archives contain both types of drawings, the Southern versions are easier to locate because we have the indexes.

As SRHA moves toward making individual drawings available, I expect anyone who orders drawings for a particular car will be required to also purchase that car’s drawing list to avoid one of our volunteers having to research using only a drawing description. Most card lists are less than 10 pages.

Two questions please:
1. Is anyone interested in obtaining Card Lists so they can order drawings?
2. Assuming No 1 is “yes”, what should SRHA charge for each list?

I’ll sneak a third question  here.. how much should a digital version of a tabloid size drawing cost?

Comments please….

Ike




SRHA Card Lists...

Card Record F-1 Log Cars 1-27 (no Spec)
Card Record F-10 pec F-23 DDB Gondola 180000-181249. 181500-181571, etc S
Card Record F-107 Spec F-159 50-T 40'-6" steel box 23487-26486 
Card Record F-108 Spec 148 50-T 40'-6" steel box 20950-21495 
Card Record F-11 Spec F-47 DDB Gondola 50-Ton 184572-186284 
Card Record F-110 Spec F-152 50-T 50'-6" auto box cars 39000-39973, 39974-39999
Card Record F-111 Spec F-166 70T st hoppers 70000-70299
Card Record F-112 Spec F-163 70-T cov hopper 319950-319999 
Card Record F-113 Spec F-161 70-T mill gon 318000-318149 
Card Record F-114 Spec 164 50T 40'6" box car 30000-32018 
Card Record F-115 Spec F-167 70-t gondolas 60000-61499 
Card Record F-116 Spec F-168 70-T triple hopper 70300-72049
Card Record F-117 Spec F-169 95-T Ore Car 100000-100249
Card Record F-118 Spec F-165 70-t covered hopper 94163-94180, 28074-280177, etc
Card Record F-119 Spec F-170 70-t covered hopper 94760-94999, 280500-280539, 319500-319519 & 325500-325519
Card Record F-12 Specs F-36, F-40 & F61 30T SU stock 43400-43899 
Card Record F-120 Spec F-171 70-t flat 51750-51803 & 408000-408020
Card Record F-121 150-t dep center flat 250050
Card Record F-122 Standardization of bay window cabs
Card Record F-123 125-t dep center flat 50002-50015
Card Record F-124 Spec F-172 50-t steel box car 35000-36199
Card Record F-125 Spec F-173 70-t Airslide 90000-90049
Card Record F-126 Spec F-174 70-t steel jopper 72050-73549 (Pull & AC&F)
Card Record F-127 Spec F-175 50-t steel box car 34800-34902, 36200-37249, 262900-262999, etc
Card Record F-128 Spec F-176 70-t mill gon 52150-52169, 290000-290029 & 318150-318199
Card Record F-129 Spec F-177 70-t side door hopper 95350-95419, 279100-279129 & 1000-1005
Card Record F-13 30-T Plain Box 13100-15599 Specs F-10A & F-12
Card Record F-13 Specs F-10-A & F-12 30T plain box 13100-15599
Card Record F-130 Spec F-178 70-t flat 51804-51863, 251000-251029 & 300000-300009
Card Record F-131 Spec F-179 90-t dep ctr flat 349000-349014
Card Record F-132 Spec F-174 70-t hopper 73550-73749 & 281000-281299
Card Record F-133 track cars
Card Record F-134 Specs F-182 & F-183 70-t cov hopper 94181-94420, 280178-280277, 319234-319293, etc
Card Record F-135 Spec F-185 70-t 65' mill gon 290030-290079 & 318200-318249
Card Record F-136 Spec F-184 50-t steel box car 37250-37369, 263650-263709 & 308322-308341
Card Record F-137 Spec F-181 70-t hopper 73750-73949 & 281300-281599
Card Record F-138 Spec F-180 70-t gon 328000-328599, 291000-291299 & 314000-314299
Card Record F-139 Spec F-186 70-t Airslide 90050-90099
Card Record F-14 pecs F-26 & F-26A 30T plain box 137000-138499 S
Card Record F-140 50-t ballast hopper 95882-95999
Card Record F-141 Spec F-189-A alum cov hopper 4000-4199
Card Record F-142 3818 cu ft alum cov hoppers 6000-6179
Card Record F-143 Spec F-191-A 4713 cu ft alum cov hopper 8000-8074
Card Record F-144 Spec F-190 3930 cu ft 90-7 steel cov hopper 6180-6214
Card Record F-145 Spec F-188-A 100-T Silversides gon 1000-1749
Card Record F-146 Spec F-192 70-t CUF box cars 9000-9199
Card Record F-147 Spec F-193 90-t triple cov hopper for calcium carbide 6980-6999
Card Record F-148 Spec F-194 50-t 50' 6" steel box 34903-34917 & 262865-262899
Card Record F-149 Protecto Frame 20 85' TTX cars
Card Record F-15 Specs F-15, F-20, & F-26 30T plain box 15600-18599 and 130000-136999 
Card Record F-150 Trailmobile Chassis & Containers RB-1 - RB-225 & RC-1 - RC-310
Card Record F-151 90-t All-Door box car 9800-9999
Card Record F-152 Spec F-195 4948 cu ft alum cov hopper 8075-8574
Card Record F-153 Spec F-199 Hogshead box car 9785-9799
Card Record F-154 Spec F-198 90-t coil car 50900-50906
Card Record F-155 Spec F-196 100-t tank car 300-346
Card Record F-156 Spec F-201 70T st box car 9200-9499
Card Record F-157 Spec F-197 70T insulated box car 500-569
Card Record F-158 70T refrigerator cars 900-904
Card Record F-159 70T wood chip cars
Card Record F-16 30T plain box w end door 12000-13099 (No Spec)
Card Record F-160 100-t drop bottom gons 1750-1751
Card Record F-161 Spec F-169 100-t 50'-6" box car 43000-43049
Card Record F-162 Pgm F-167 Spec F-200 100-T flat car 115500-115559 115560-115599
Card Record F-163 Spec F-204 90-t bulkhead flat 115700-115724 115775-115779 F-204 
Card Record F-164 Spec F-205 100-T Airslide 90100-90169
Card Record F-165 100-t brick car 116000
Card Record F-166 Spec F-207 70-t CUF box 5000-5499 & CG 3500-3699
Card Record F-167 Spec F-206 70-t flat cars 50800-50802
Card Record F-168 Spec 208 & 209 60' box car 9500-9599
Card Record F-169 Spec F-203 90-t cov hopper 6215-6364
Card Record F-17 30T plain box 10500-11987 (No Spec)
Card Record F-170 Spec F-211 50' box cars 9600-9614
Card Record F-173 Spec F-213 box car 16000-16399
Card Record F-174 Spec F-214 70- insul cuf box car 570-649
Card Record F-175 Spec F-215 70- non-insul cuf box car 5500-5572
Card Record F-176 Spec F-218 100t cov hoppers 6365-6764
Card Record F-177 Spec F-217 100-t hopper 75000-75799
Card Record F-178 Spec F-221 60' box car 43050-43085
Card Record F-179 Spec F-220 86' box cars 42350-42381
Card Record F-18 Spec F-10A 30T vent box 35800-37799 
Card Record F-180 100-t cov hopper 6765-6964
Card Record F-181 NCP-11 Spec F-219 60' box cars 17000-17499
Card Record F-182 bulkhead flat 115600-115699 CG 11600-1649
Card Record F-183 Spec F-216 blkd flat 115800-115899 CG 11400-11424
Card Record F-184 Spec F-222 300t flat 50099
Card Record F-185 Spec F-212 hogshead box cars 9640-9739
Card Record F-186 hy-cube box cars 42300-42335 CG 8800-8813
Card Record F-187 alum cov hoppers 7925-7999 & 8575-8999
Card Record F-188 NCP-17 Spec F-225 60' box car 43707-43770
Card Record F-189 NCP-18 Spec F-229 70-t 50'-6" PS-1 box cars 18000-18499
Card Record F-19 30T vent box 34800-35799 (No Spec)
Card Record F-190 NCP-19 Spec F-224 100-t bulkhead flat cars 30" CUF 114950-114999
Card Record F-191 NCP-20 Spec F-227 50-t 50'-6" box cars 33000-32999
Card Record F-192 SCP-887 30 CWR cars
Card Record F-193 NCP-22 & 23 70 & 100-t 60'-9 box cars 43771-43789 & 43086-43135
Card Record F-194 NCP-21 UTC tank cars 347-352
Card Record F-195 NCP-24 60' box cars 43790-43853
Card Record F-196 NCP-25 86' box cars 42946-42999 CG 8814-8832
Card Record F-197 NCP-17 60' box cars 43700-43706
Card Record F-198 NCP-26 86' box cars 42378-42408
Card Record F-199 NCP-27 Spec F-231 100t hopper 96000-97699
Card Record F-20 30T vent box 32900-34199 and 342200-34799 (No Spec)
Card Record F-200 NCP-28 Spec F-230 100t hoppers 75800-76599
Card Record F-201 Spec F-239 70-T 60'-9" box cars 43854-43969
Card Record F-202 100t well flat 50098
Card Record F-203 Spec F-235 100t AirSlide 90170-90194
Card Record F-204 NCP-27B Spec F-238 100t cov hoppers 97700-97999
Card Record F-205 NCP-32 Spec F-242  100t 52' gons 63000-63199
Card Record F-206 NCP-41 Spec F-237 box cars 18500-18999
Card Record F-207  NCP-43 & 44 60' box cars 43139-43147 & 43970-43984
Card Record F-208 NCP-45 Spec F-246 blkd flats 115250-115274
Card Record F-209 NCP-46 blkd flats 114925-114949
Card Record F-21 30T vent box 30000-32899 var bldrs (No Spec)
Card Record F-210 NCP-47 Spec F-244 50' flat cars 114800-114824
Card Record F-211 NCP-48 Spec F-245 100-t 61'-0" flat cars 114500-114549
Card Record F-212 NCP-51 Spec F-248 70t box cars 38000-38499
Card Record F-213 NCP-49 Spec F-249 86' box car 42862-42945
Card Record F-22 Spec F-16 30T vent box replacement numbers 
Card Record F-23 Spec F-35 36' SUF vent 37800-38724, 36' auto 39800-39874, M&O 
Card Record F-239 NCP-34 60' box cars 43854-43969
Card Record F-24 Spec F-42 SU Beer & Ice 41500-41699 
Card Record F-25 Spec F-43 40T SU Vent 26700-27299 and 27800-28099 
Card Record F-26 Specs F-44 & F-46 30T SU box and vent 27300-27799,V&SW 1100-1164 and M&O 20200-20399 
Card Record F-27 Specs F-41 & F-51 36' SU box 38725-39524, GS&F 9205-9412 
Card Record F-28 Spec F-4 40' Furn 40000-40199, 50' Furn 40200-40374 Spec F-4 for 40200-40374 only
Card Record F-3 Spec F-30 X-1625-X1824 
Card Record F-30 Specs F-50A & F-50 40-T SU flats GS&F 7000-7159 & M&O 913 
Card Record F-32 Spec F-19 30-T flat cars (list on cover)
Card Record F-34 Spec F-67 30T SU Poultry 44875-44899 
Card Record F-35 Spec F-64 M&O SCS cabs 147-171
Card Record F-36 pec F-68 30T SU Vent 120000-122749 S
Card Record F-37 Specs F-47 & F-70 DDB Gons 10250-11499 (all R:N) 
Card Record F-38 Specs F-69 & F-80 8-Whl SCS cabs X-2026-X-2325 
Card Record F-39 Spec F-65 30T SU Stock 43900-43999 and 45000-45199 
Card Record F-4 Spec F-18 SU flat 115000-115749. su gon 118000-118749 & 117500-117999 
Card Record F-40 Spec F-63 DDB gons 186331-187550, 186285-186330 
Card Record F-41 Specs F-51 & F-52 30T SU vent box 28100-28374 and auto 39650-39799 
Card Record F-42 Specs F-62 & F-55 50-T Steel Hoppers 98152-98651, V&SW 7000-7444 
Card Record F-43 Spec F-66 50-T SU flat (list on cover & TF 100-109 
Card Record F-44 Spec F-70 50-T DDB gon H&NE 8200-8399, CNO 25100-25165, AGS 2900-2924 (all R:N) 
Card Record F-45 Specs F-68, F-71 & F-77A 30T SU Vent TF 200-229 and M&O 20400-22407 
Card Record F-46 Spec F-72 30T SU box cars CNOTP 14861, etc and AGS 12148, etc 
Card Record F-47 Spec F-72 SU box cars 140000-140149 
Card Record F-48 Specs F-68 & F-74 SU vent GS&F 410853 and Sou 411160-411530 
Card Record F-49 Spec F-63 50-T DDB gons M&O 10200-10721, 1153-11268 & 11000-11333 
Card Record F-5 Spec F-17 50-T SF hopper 105000-106999 
Card Record F-50 Dynamometer Cars 1 & 2 (No Spec)
Card Record F-51 Spec F-43 40t SU vent 28375-28628 & 40t vent 28629-28674 
Card Record F-52 50-T steel hopper 96000-98151 & list on cover (No Spec)
Card Record F-53 40-T Rodgers ballast hopper 90306-90695, 95000-95249, 90606-90855, etc
Card Record F-54 Spec F-68 30t SU vent 122750-123249 
Card Record F-55 Spec F-53 8-Whl M&O cabs 140-146 
Card Record F-56 Spec F-75 40-T DDB Gon 20000-20120 (RN 417000-417129 
Card Record F-57 Spec F-77B 30t box car CNO 16591-17999, AGS 10205-10899 & DW 1100-1199 (all RN) 
Card Record F-58 Spec F-77B 30t auto AGS 16000-16099, CNO 13151-13350 & 30t box NONE 5000-5411 (All RN) 
Card Record F-59 pec F-79 30t box 150000-151222 & 160000-160499 S
Card Record F-6 Spec F-38 50-Ton SH Coke 110000-110619 
Card Record F-60 Spec F-78 50-T DDB gon 187551-189062 
Card Record F-61 Spec F-82 30t box 151223-152457, odd nos, 402150-402199 
Card Record F-62 40t SU refrig 269005-269249, 343000-343249, 269000-269004 1917 & 1926 files
Card Record F-63 Specs F-80 & F-102 8-whl SCS cab X-2326-X-2675, AGS X-6041, etc.
Card Record F-64 Spec F-81 50-T DDB gon 189063-190362 & list on cover
Card Record F-65 Spec F-84 30t box 152458-153457 w 100 exp box 
Card Record F-66 50-T comp hopper 96000 RN to 100000 series (No Spec)
Card Record F-66a Now into 1100 series drawings
Card Record F-67 Specs F-98 & F-87 50-T US DDB gon 198000-199999, M&O 11400-11599 
Card Record F-68 Spec F-88 40t box 153500-158889 
Card Record F-69 Specs F-92 & F-100 40t SCS stock 45200-45649, M&O 3300-3549 
Card Record F-7 DH Coal 74850-74923 (No Spec)
Card Record F-70 Spec F-88A 40' auto 160500-160999 
Card Record F-71 Spec F-91-A 50-T SF composite hopper 103500-104499 plus others 
Card Record F-72 40T plain box 165000-166269, 157000-166269, 158890- etc.pdf
Card Record F-72 Specs F-105, F-99 & F-90 40-t plain box 165000-166269, 158890-159889, 162500-163499 & 168270-169769
Card Record F-73 40T plain box M&O and Sou 166270-168269, etc.pdf
Card Record F-73 Specs F-94 & F-99 40-t plain box M&O 23000-23999, 166270-168269, 162000-164999, 409000-409999, etc.
Card Record F-74 50T LS gon 118750-119749, 288000-288249, etc.pdf
Card Record F-74 Specs F-96, F-123 & F-129 50-t plain LS gon 118750-119749, 288000-288249, 316000-316499 & 55000-55710
Card Record F-75 50-T SU flat cars 116600-117349, M&O 70000-70249
Card Record F-76 Spec F-103 40-T auto box M&O 46000-46499 
Card Record F-77 Spec F-108 50-T comp hopper M&O 31350-31549 
Card Record F-78 Specs F-115 & F-110 50-T comp gon M&O 55200-55699 
Card Record F-79 Spec F-113 SCS caboose X-2676 - X-2875 & M&O X-180 - X-199
Card Record F-8 DB Gondola 40-Ton 84913-84920 (No Spec)
Card Record F-80 Specs F-111 & F-119 55-T steel hopper 107500-109999, 285150-285399, 111000-112499
Card Record F-81 Specs F-112 & F-118 40-T SF auto box 148000-149999, 270500-270749, 161000-161999, 271000-271999, 311000-311499, 340000-340499 & 375000-375499
Card Record F-82 Spec F-117 50-T SU flat M&O 70250-70449 
Card Record F-83 Spec F-116 40-T SCS plain box M&O 24595-24844 
Card Record F-84 50-T DDB gon 180000 series (No Spec)
Card Record F-85 Specs F-120, F-121 & F-126 40-T steel auto 272000-272999
Card Record F-86 Specs F-125 & F-130 40 ton plain box cars 260500-260999 & 12023-13041 
Card Record F-87 Spec F-122 50-T Hopper 285500-285999 & 320100-320699
Card Record F-88 Specs F-124 & F-140 50-T DB gon 287000-287999, 315700-315949, 175000-177376 rebuild and wood racks
Card Record F-89 Specs F-131 & F-13?40-T SUF stock 45650-46002 
Card Record F-9 Spec F-9 40 Ton DDB Gondola (appl SUF to 80000# gons) 
Card Record F-90 Specs F-132 & F-140 70-t steel flat 51000-51100 & 51101-51600
Card Record F-91 Specs F-133 & F-141 70-t LS mill gon 52000-52049 & 52050-52149
Card Record F-92 Spec F-128 50-T 50'-" steel box 40000-40199 
Card Record F-93 Spec F-125 & F-130 40-t steel box 261000-262036, 306000-307021, 10000-12022 & 13043-13063
Card Record F-94 Specs F-132 & F-140 70-t steel flat 51000-51100 & 51101-51600
Card Record F-94 Specs F-134 & F-145 70-t cement hopper 280000-280074 & 319025-319099
Card Record F-95 Spec F-130 & F-135 40-t steel box 10922, 13064-15895
Card Record F-96 Spec F-136 & F-147 50-t steel hopper 112500-113249 & 104500-105949
Card Record F-97 Spec F-137 50-t DDB gon 177377-178197
Card Record F-98 Spec F-138 & F-151 50-T LS gondola 55711-55960, 118750-119749, 288000-288249 & 316000-316249
Card Record NCP-18 Spec F-229 50' box cars 18000-18999
Card Record NCP-19 Spec F-224 blkd flat 114950-114999
Card Record NCP-20 Spec F-227 50' box cars 33000-33974 32975-32999
Card Record NCP-22 NCP-23 Card Record 60' box cars 43771-43789 43086-43135
Card Record NCP-45:48 bulkhead flats 115250-115274, 114800-114824
Card Record NCP-48 61' flat 114500-114549
Card Record NCP-50 100t hopper 76600-77199
Card Record NCP-55 box cars 40500-41499
Card Record NCP-56 100t ctr flo cov hoppers 98000-98599
Card Record NCP-57 70-t 52'-6" high side gons 65000-65399
Card Record NCP-58 hi cube box 43647-43699
Card Record NCP-59 cabs 




Locked Current LIst of Scanned Southern Railway Presidents' Files in SRHA Archives

George Eichelberger
 

It has been some time since we have posted a list of the Southern Railway Presidents’ files that have been scanned. The current list follows.

At the present time, SRHA does not plan to put all of these files on line (13,554 items, 26.58GB). The best option for anyone wanting to review any particular files is to go to one of the SRHA work sessions (Please tell us what you want to do beforehand).

In limited cases, entire scanned files can be sent to individuals doing serious research for academic work or articles to be published in TIES. Anyone asking must either be recognized for their research or writing OR be a SRHA member with a specific need or project in mind. Contact archives@... with any questions or comments.

Material can be put on line to anyone is interested in helping to defer the costs to acquire and maintain the collection.

Many other photo, document and drawing files have also been scanned and are available for research. (Some are referred to below.) The lists are too long to attach here but everything can be researched at  the archives. 

(The archives will be open the afternoon Thursday Sept 29, the day before the joint SRHA-L&NHS-RPM convention and meet, convention registration will be required.)

Ike


Box 1 File 578 Yellow Fever
Box 1 File 8 New Equip on Pullmans
Box 103 File 4484 New Stations, etc (moved to location files)
Box 103 File 4485 New Stations, etc (moved to location files)
Box 103 File 4486 Structures. etc (moved to location files)
Box 103 File 4487 Structures. etc (moved to location files)
Box 103 File 4488 Structures. etc (moved to location files)
Box 103 File 4489 Structures. etc  (moved to location files)
Box 105 File 4535 1895-96 ICC couplers and air brakes (and 1950s AFE:)
Box 106 File 4575 Decatur, AL depot (to location file)
Box 106 File 4579 Greensboro Sta (Needs to be confirmed!)
Box 106 File 4587 ICC accident reports 1901
Box 107 File 4623 TR Roosevelt trip 1901
Box 108 42033 SAL to Atlanta 1901
Box 108 File 42008 Wash Sou tracks to Long Bridge
Box 109 File 4705 IC pass depot in NOLA (1901) (moved to location file)
Box 111 File 4771 Bham Mineral Belt crossing at Bessemer
Box 12 File 169 Pres Cleveland to CSE
Box 121 File 5079 (Train Robbery)
Box 122 File 5096 Cameron Run to Pot Yard (1901) (to Alex, VA file)
Box 122 File 5096 Washington Southern 1902-1905 (to Alex, VA file)
Box 124 File 5127 Emory Val RR (CNO&TP coal fields)
Box 132 File 5359 Cincinnati Freight House
Box 133 File 5412  L&N will operate Atl-Cincy pass svc
Box 136 File 5508 Lynchburg, VA joint use of N&W station
Box 136 File 5521 Pomona and Spencer coal and water
Box 137B File 24 Pullman Specs for Spencer's Car 1905
Box 137B File 25 Spencer's Private Car 1905
Box 137B File 26 Spencer's Private Car 1905
Box 137B File 28 Spencer's Private Car-ACF 1905
Box 138 File 5562 Washington conn for pass trains
Box 138 File 5562 Washington, Arlington & Falls Church Rwy connection (to Alexandria, VA file)) copy
Box 151 File 5831102 CG Refrig cars.jpg
Box 16 File 235 Charleston Union Station maps (moved to loc files)
Box 16 File 264 Norfolk travelers to CSS
Box 163 File 6051 DC 7th St Station (1908)
Box 166 File 6093 Jax Yard land
Box 169 File 6129 L&N Tunnel collapse jpgs
Box 17 File 301 Railway Age SR at Cotton States Expo
Box 171 File 6157 Chatt Term Station 1940
Box 172 File 6180 Armor refrig car agreement
Box 172 File 6200A Stevenson Extension
Box 172 File 6201 Clinton, TN depot 1914 (To location file)
Box 18 File 246 Sub Station in Memphis for SR "motor train" (moved to pass memo file)
Box 18 File 247 Double Track proposals 1909
Box 180 File 6354 Cincinnati Union Depot
Box 180 File 6355 Cincinnati Union Depot
Box 182 File 6370 Emory R Bridge 1910
Box 182 File 6390 Foreign Line Official Cars
Box 182 File 6394 Q&C Despatch
Box 182 File 6395 Q&C dining cars
Box 183 File 6404 Runaway track at Ludlow, KY (moved to location file)
Box 185 File 6439 Southern Express Co
Box 185 File 6440 Sou Express Co
Box 185 File 6441 Fla-Augusta-Asheville pass tfc 1914
Box 186 File 6463 Savannah Union Station Co. 1920 (bond info_
Box 187 File 6475 Augusta Savannah R lift bridge 1912
Box 188 File 6516 Fusee Explosion
Box 189 File 6516 Greenwood MS depot
Box 189 File 6517 Athens, GA depot
Box 189 File 6520 Charlottesville, VA depot 1919
Box 19 File 399 ACL and SAL pass rates to ATL for CSE
Box 19 File 403 Spl Rate to CSE on GA Day
Box 19 File 410 CSE Awards
Box 19 File 444  Pass Rates to CSE
Box 19 File 450 Phila Museum wants CSE exhibit
Box 191 File 6548 Jacksonville Term Co (moved to Jacksonville, FL file)
Box 192 Files 6568-70 B'ham Term Co Bonds (not scanned)
Box 192A File 21 FH History of SR
Box 192A File 9 Chattanooga street bridges
Box 192A File3 Chalmette Coal Tipple
Box 192B File 22 Dining Car Rev & Exp
Box 192B File 23 Dining Car Rev & Exp
Box 192B File 24 Sou-ACL trackage rights 1909-1915
Box 192B File 25 ACL-Sou Statements 1909
Box 193A File 7 Mobile, AL
Box 2 File 9 Fruit Growers Exp Gen File 1962 Pt 1
Box 2 File 9 Fruit Growers Exp Gen File 1962 Pt 2
Box 20 File 278 Pass Train Retrenchments 1914-15
Box 20 File 279 Pass Train  Retrenchments  1914-15
Box 20 File 280 Pass Train  Retrenchments 1914-15
Box 20 File 282 Alabama Pass Train  Retrenchments  1914-15
Box 20 File 283 Pass Train Retrenchments  1914-15
Box 203 File 6812 coal trestles  
Box 204  File 6829 Steel Pullmans to NYC copy (to passenger, Pullman car opns)
Box 207 6896 Broken Rails
Box 207 File 6886 Hawkinsville, GA W&T
Box 207 File 6901 Peters St Depot
Box 21 File 287 Parlor & pullman passengers 1915
Box 21 File 288 pullman passengers on Tr 1-2 St Louis-Louisville (to pass car memos)
Box 21 File 295 Wolf Creek Water Station
Box 21 File 299 Knox-Nash & Bham-Mobile sleeper & parlor 1915
Box 21 File 300 parlor car sleeping car retrenchments 1915
Box 21 File 301 Disc Tr 8-15 Rome-Chatt 1915 (to indiv Tr file)
Box 21 File 305  Bristol-Louisville sleeping car V&SW-LN
Box 21 File 670 Cotton States Expo Accounts
Box 228B File 15 Potomac Yard
Box 228C File 19 Const of Memphos Union Station
Box 228C File 20 Const of Memphis Union Station
Box 23 File 340 Cumberland R Burnside, KY bridge (in location file)
Box 230 File 7382 Wash Term Opns
Box 230 File 7383 WUT 
Box 24 File 342 SR North Carolina Ads
Box 24 File 346 KCS maps
Box 24 File 347 Ky track profile MP 40-MP 105 Williamson-Danville
Box 24 File 350 Chattanooga Traction
Box 24 File 351 1932 Chattanooga Traction Co map Pt 1
Box 25 File 361 5550 new freight cars 
Box 25 File 362 SP Drawings List
Box 258 File 7771 Brevard, NC (mty in location file)
Box 258 File 7775 Cowpens, SC (mty to location file)
Box 259 File 7792 Rome, GA depot (to location file)
Box 259 File 7794 Toccoa, GA (to location file)
Box 259 File 7799 Satsuma, AL depot (moved to location file)
Box 259 File 7801 Finley Shops Construction
Box 259 File 7803 Charlotte Rapid Transit Co.
Box 25A File 4 AB brakes
Box 26 File 366 New Orleans street and tracks (mty to loc file)
Box 26 File 758 Structures Knoxville & Spencer Shops
Box 260 File 7816 Columbia, SC Freight Station 1912 (to location file)
Box 260 File 7817 Uniontown, AL Depot 1912 (to location files)
Box 260 Files 7814 &15 Richmond Main  St Station (1912-16)
Box 261 File 7830 Orange, VA track arrt at station
Box 262 File 7850 Gadsden, AL frt station  (to location file)
Box 263 File 7863 Savannah Muni Terminal (to location file)
Box 264 File 7876 Double Tracking Atl-DC
Box 267A File 4 Memphis Union Station (1913) (to location file)
Box 268 File 7936 CNO&TP As&Bs (to location files)
Box 268 File 7939 CNOTP AFEs 1913
Box 269 File 7946 Tennessee Railroad (1916)
Box 26E File 766-108 Cotton States Expo
Box 274 File 7992A Cornelia, GA depot
Box 274 File 7992A Cornelia, GA depot Moved to location file)
Box 275 File 7994 Livestock (1921)
Box 275 File 7995 Livestock (1913) 
Box 28 File 381 Petition to Disc Tr 111-112 copy (to indiv train file)
Box 28 File 382 Pass Train Discontinuances 1966 (MTY to indiv train files)
Box 28 File 383 Pass Train Discontinuances 1966 (MTY to indiv train files)
Box 282 File 8081 Chattanooga, TN new dam and powerhouse
Box 290 File 8170 Jacksonville Term booklet (moved to Jacksonville, FL file)
Box 292 File  Middlesborough Belt Railroad map 1903-2-27.tif
Box 293 File 8202A SAL-SR double track
Box 293 File 8209 Markham, VA stock pen
Box 294 File 8220 Augusta Terminal
Box 294 File 8224 Manassas Depot (Jackson mem)1924
Box 30 File 407  Elim Pullman Svc (in Pass Pull Opns file)
Box 302 File 8341 Fairfax Harrison equipment
Box 302 File 8342 Fairfax Harrison equipment
Box 305 File 8380 New Shops at Selma, NC
Box 305 File 8390 WWI export of horses
Box 305 File 8390 War Export Business through Southern ports
Box 305 File 8391 SR PRR tracks in New Albany, IN
Box 307 File 8416 A&CAL 1915
Box 308A File 8 Pt 2 Harrisonburg Branch Pass Trains
Box 308A Files 7 & 8 Harrisonburg Branch Pass Trains
Box 308A Files 9 & 10 NC Pass Train Retrenchments
Box 309 File 8432 wreck of Nos 38 and 32 at Saisbury, NC 11-24-1915
Box 31 File 413 Pass Tr Discontinuances (MTY to indiv train files)
Box 31 File 414 Pass Tr Discontinuances (MTY to indiv train files)
Box 31 File 415 Pass Tr Discontinuances (MTY to indiv train files)
Box 31 File 442 Passenger Services (moved to pass files)
Box 310 File 8446 Belt Rwy of Chatt
Box 312 File 8460 Jacksonville Term (moved to Jax Fl file) alias
Box 312 File 8462 Jacksonville Term (moved to Jax Fl file)
Box 312 File 8463 Jacksonville Term (moved to Jax Fl file)
Box 316 File 8503 Pass Train Svc 1917
Box 316 File 8504 Pass Train Svc 1917
Box 32 File 421, 422 & 423 passenger trains & services
Box 327 File 8685 Cincinnati Union Station 1919
Box 327 File 8686 Tennessee R. Bridge 1919
Box 327A File 8679F Steam Locos 1912-16
Box 33 File 425 Passenger Services
Box 33 File 426 Passenger Services
Box 33 File 427 Coal
Box 33 File 428 Coal
Box 331 File 8720 Charleston Coal Pier
Box 331 Files 8721, 22 & 23  Asheville Flood of 1916 (Large file not scanned)
Box 334A File 8748B USRA Troop Movements
Box 334A Files 8748A-C ARA Reports 7-15-1916
Box 336 File 8757 Private Car movements 1916-18
Box 336 File 8763 Eastern Ports congestion 1916
Box 338 File 8778 USRA equipment (to equip files)
Box 340 File 8803 Peachtree Station (1916) (to Location file)
Box 343 File 8859 ARA Circulars 6-1916 to 9-1917
Box 351 files 8930 & 8931 private car movements 1918-20 
Box 355 File 8978 1917-8-3 AB&A into Jacksonville AB&A .jpg
Box 362 Files 9061-69 USRA As & Bs
Box 363 File 9075 USRA Eq Trust A&Bs
Box 363 File 9076 USRA rolling stock
Box 370 File 9153 Cincy Terminal Improvements Pt 1
Box 370 File 9154 Cincy Terminal Improvements Pt 2
Box 370 File 9155 Cincy Terminal Improvements Pt 3
Box 370 File 9157 NO&PBL
Box 370 File 9159 W-S Union Station
Box 403 File 9508 LCL pick up & delivery (partial scan)
Box 408 File9573A Cincy Perishables
Box 420 File 9682  Wash DC office bldgs (1927)
Box 438 File 9834 (As & Bs Water Stations 1930)
Box 442 File 9870 NOLA Bananas
Box 444 File 9892 USRA and Passenger Services
Box 446A File 5 Dining Car svc (1931) (Moved to pass car dining file_
Box 446A File 6 Dining Car svc (1931)
Box 459 G File 10,008 FDR Trains Archives 
Box 475 File 10147 Life Magazine
Box 477A File 4 Disc of Trs 17 & 18 Augusta-Branchville (moved to indiv Tr files)
Box 484 File 10227 Passenger Trains (moved to Pass Car Memos)
Box 490 & 491 Pass Svcs 10275, 77, 78, 81 & 82
Box 490 File 10275 Pass Svcs (MTY to Box 490 File 10275-File 82)
Box 490 File 10276 Pass Svcs (MTY to Box 490 File 10275-82)
Box 490 File 10277 Pass Svcs (MTY to Box 490 File10275)
Box 490 File 10278 Pass Svcs (MTY to Box 490 & 491
Box 490 File 10278 Pass Svcs (MTY to Box 490 File 10275)
Box 491 File 10277 Pass Trains (MTY to Box 490 File 10275) 
Box 491 File 10281 Pass Svcs (MTY to Box 490 File 10275)
Box 491 File 10282 Pass Svcs  (MTY to Box 490 File 10275)
Box 495 File 10311 Line Abandonments 1941-43
Box 496A File 1 AFEs 1941-45
Box 496A File 3 WWII Freight Car Supply
Box 498 File 10328 post war car shortages
Box 498 File 10329 post war car shortages
Box 498 File 10330 post war car shortages
Box 498 File 10333 Tallulah Falls Rwy
Box 498 File 10334 Meridian Terminal Co 
Box 499 File 10335 Augusta Union Station (in location files)
Box 499 File 10335 interlockings (in location files)
Box 509A File 7 Jim Crow
Box 509A File 7 Segregation
Box 517 File 10517 Holston Ord Works trackage rights
Box 519 File 10533 NOUPT
Box 523A File 1 Sunbeam and New Royal Palm (moved to indiv files)
Box 526 File 10602 Ferdinand Magellan
Box 526 File 10604 GE U-30-C maint facility
Box 527 File 10612 Passenger car correspondence 1950s (moved to indiv files)
Box 527 File 10613 Passenger car correspondence 1950s (moved to indiv files)
Box 528 File 10614 Passenger Disc (partial scan) (moved to indiv files) (moved to indiv files)
Box 528 File 10615 Passenger Disc (partial scan) (moved to indiv files)
Box 528 File 10616 Passenger Disc (partial scan) (moved to indiv files)
Box 528 File 10617 Package Cars
Box 528 File 10618 Passenger Disc 
Box 529 File 10622 Charleston Union Station (to location file)
Box 530 File 10630 postwar Gen Freight Car Pgm
Box 531C File 12 Mail & RPOs (moved to pass RPO svcs file)
Box 531C File 13 & 14 Tr 1-2 Sheffield-Parrish (to indiv file)
Box 531D File 19 Passenger Train Discontinuances (status)(Moved to Passenger-Disc)
Box 531D File 20 Passenger Train Discontinuances (status)(Moved to Passenger-Disc)
Box 531D File 21 Passenger Train Discontinuances (status)(Moved to Passenger-Disc)
Box 531D File 22 Passenger Train Discontinuances
Box 531D File 23 Passenger Train Discontinuances (to indiv files)
Box 531D File 24 Passenger Train Discontinuances 47-49
Box 531D File 25 Passenger Train Discontinuances
Box 531D File 26 Asheville-Murphy Tr 17, 18, 19 & 20 (Moved to pass train files)
Box 531E File 27 Tr  7-14 & 11-12 (moved to indiv files)
Box 531E File 30 Tr  11-12 Harrisonburg Branch (moved to indiv files)
Box 531F File 36 (To pass tr file) Disc of Trs 26 & 47 "Cracker" (to indiv train file)
Box 531F File 40 Disc of Trs 31 & 32 Atl-Chatt (to indiv train file)
Box 531F File 41 Disc of Trs 15 & 16 Cincy-Chatt (to indiv train file)
Box 531F File 42 Disc of Trs 11 & 12 Columbia-Charleston (to indiv train file)
Box 531F File 43 Disc of Trs 13 & 14 W-S -Wilkesboro (to indiv train file)
Box 531F File 44 Disc of Trs 13 & 14 W-S -Wilkesboro (to indiv train file)
Box 531F File 45 Charleston banana traffic 1947-53
Box 531F File 47 Watermelon business 1947
Box 532 File 10660 Pregnall, SC ex ACL branch
Box 533A File 2 Pullman 1948 Study
Box 533A File 2 Pullman 1948 Study copy
Box 535 File 10686 Atl Term Co 1950
Box 535 File 10686A Atl Term Co 1950
Box 539B File 5 Disc D&W Trs 3 & 4 (to indiv file)
Box 539B File 6 Disc Disc Trs 21 & 22 Salisbury-Charlotte (to indiv file)
Box 539B File 8 Disc of Trs 23 & 24 L'ville to Danville, KY (to indiv train file)
Box 539B File 9 Disc of Trs 23 & 24 in Ill Louisville-E St Louis & 15-16 Somerset-Cincy (to indiv file)
Box 542 File 10,748 Railway Mail Svc Rates-1950 (moved to Pass - RPO file)
Box 543 File 10750 general frt file (mostly auto)
Box 543 File 10754 Pullman Operations (to Passenger Pullman file)
Box 543 File 10756 Pullman Operations  (to Passenger Pullman file)
Box 544 File 10761 Army horses
Box 545 File 10765 Piggyback (moved to Intermodal memos)
Box 545 File 10766 Piggyback (moved to Intermodal memos)
Box 545 File 10767 Piggyback (moved to Intermodal memos)
Box 545 File 10768 Piggyback (moved to Intermodal memos)
Box 545 File 10769 Piggyback (moved to Intermodal memos)
Box 547A File 4 Tr 5 & 8 Greensboro- W-S (to indiv file)
Box 547A File 5 Tr 5-6 Lula-Athens (to indiv file)
Box 547A File 6 Tr 3-4 Toccoa-Elberton (to indiv file)
Box 547A File 7 Tr 71-72 Rock Hill - Kingville, SC (to indiv files)
Box 559A File 1 Nailable Steel Floors (not scanned)
Box 559A File 9 Disc 9-10 Bulls Gap Rogersville (indiv file)
Box 559A, File  8  Disc Tr 17-18 & 115-116 Selma-Demopolis (Moved to Indiv file) 
Box 559A, File 4 Painting Pass Cars (Moved to pass car paint & stencil file)
Box 559A, File 5 Painting Pass Cars (moved to paint file)
Box 559A, File 6 NO&NE freight cars to Sou (to flat & gon file)
Box 563 File 10906 Penn Central freight at DC
Box 565 File 10913-14-15 COFC mail (all moved to rolling stock-intermodal)
Box 565 File 10914 COFC mail (moved to File 10913)
Box 565 File 10915 COFC mail (moved to File 10913)
Box 566 File 10918 Interstate Railroad purchase
Box 566 File 10919 Interstate Railroad purchase
Box 569 File 10947 (1962 PB items to Intermodal files)
Box 572 File 10965 Southern Crescent - history
Box 572 File 10971 CTC Signaling
Box 572 File 10976A Dining Car Svc (moved to Dining Car Routes & Svcs Folder)
Box 579 File 11018 freight car
Box 579 File 11019 Freight Cars ( MTY to car files)
Box 579 File 11020 Freight Cars (moved to indiv files)
Box 579 File 11021 Freight Cars
Box 579 File 11022 Freight Cars
Box 579 File 11023 Freight Cars
Box 580 File 11024 frt equip  (moved to indiv files)
Box 580 File 11025 frt equip
Box 580 File 11026 frt equip (moved to Retirement Recom file)
Box 580 File 11027 frt equip (moved to Retirement Recom file)
Box 586 File 11062 670 CG loads
Box 586 File 11062 Four Bi-level autoracks (to auto rack file)
Box 588B File 11079A SCL Merger
Box 588B File 11079D SCL Merger
Box 588B File 11079E SCL Merger
Box 591A File 11101A Trust Cert Specimens
Box 594 File 11121 Passenger Train Services
Box 594 File 11122 Passenger Train Services
Box 596 File 11351 (Rail-Highway) To Intermodal
Box 598 File 11,152 & 53 (Mty to Intermodal)
Box 598 File 11,152 (Mty to Intermodal)
Box 598 File 11150 (moved to Intermodal)
Box 598 File 11151 freight cars
Box 598 File 11151-53 PB Services (to Intermodal)
Box 598 File 1148 Western Trip 
Box 598A File 3 asst rolling stock (moved)
Box 6 File 78 Wash Sta 1896-98 (mty to location file)
Box 609 File 11224 Passenger Trains (to indiv files)
Box 609 File 11225 Passenger Trains (to indiv files)
Box 609 File 11226 Passenger Trains (to indiv files)
Box 609 File 11227 Passenger Trains (to indiv files)
Box 609 File 11228 Passenger Trains (to indiv files)
Box 610 File 11238 RC trains
Box 610 File 11239 RC trains
Box 615 File 11270 TTX cars (moved to Intermodal)
Box 615 File 11272 Cincinnati Union Terminal expansion 1943
Box 615 File 11273 Passenger Trains
Box 615 File 11274 Passenger Trains
Box 615 File 11275 Passenger Trains (mty to passenger files)
Box 616 File 11283 RC Trains copy (moved to diesel files)
Box 617 File 11287 W&A Lease
Box 617 File 11288 W&A Lease (not scanned) (Carl has scanned)
Box 617 File 11293 (Moved to Intermodal)
Box 617 File 11293 Rail-Highway (Equip moved to Intermodal)
Box 626 File 11353 Fruit Growers Express & Pass Disc??
Box 627 File 11367 & 368 "Nancy Hanks" (MTY moved to indiv file)
Box 627 File 11370 CNOTP:Carolina Spl Pass Train off file (to indiv files)
Box 627, File 11366 "Nancy Hanks" & Trs 31-32 Disc (to indiv train files)
Box 627, File 11369 Tr 2-28 & 27-2 Disc (to indiv files)
Box 628 File 11372 pass trains & mail misc (to indiv files)
Box 628 File 11373 pass trains & mail misc (to indiv files)
Box 634 File 11421 Atlanta Term Sta Demolition (moved to location file)
Box 634 File 11422 Atlanta Term Sta Demolition (to Atl Sta location file)
Box 634 File 11423 CTC
Box 634 File 11424 CTC
Box 638 File 11456 1of2 Intermodal (& CUT property) (most items moved to Intermodal)
Box 638 File 11457 2of2 Intermodal (moved to Intermodal file)
Box 638 File 11458-61 Macon Terminal (to Macon, GA location file)
Box 646 File 11552 4501 and TVRM
Box 646 File 11552 West Point, VA (1917-36) & Box 206 File 6878 (1912-16) Bill S is doing filenames
Box 647 File  11553 Pass Train Discontinuances (to indiv files)
Box 647 File  11554 Pass Train Discontinuances (to indiv files)
Box 647 File  11555 Pass Train Discontinuances (to indiv files)
Box 647 File 11556 Pass Train Discontinuances
Box 653 File 11597 Freight Car information
Box 653 File 11598 freight and MoW rolling stock
Box 653 File 11600 Rolling Stock 1970-71
Box 653 File 11601 Rolling Stock 1970-71 (mty)
Box 662 File 11670 Passenger Train Services (indiv train file)
Box 662 File 11671 Passenger Trains ! & 2 Services (to indiv train file)
Box 662 File 11672 Passenger Train Services (to pass car memos)
Box 662 File 11673 Passenger Train Services (to pass memos)
Box 663 File 11680 Freight & RPOs (mty to indiv files)
Box 666 File 11702 Battle of Britan loco restoration
Box 66A File15 Decatur, AL bridge 1900
Box 671 File 11751 SR-MoPac Merger 1973
Box 675 File 11,782 TTX (to Intermodal file)
Box 692 File 11908 Southern Crescent
Box 693 File 11919B Trackage Rights
Box 698 File 11958 Equip Leases (MTY moved to indiv files)
Box 698 File 11959 Purch of New Equip (mty)
Box 698 File 11960 equipment (moved)
Box 698 File 11961 equipment retirement recommendations (moved to retirement file)
Box 7 File 93 Florida RRs
Box 702 File 11988 New Eq (Mty)
Box 702 File 11989 (Moved to Eq Files)
Box 72 File 3430 Carolina Midland Savannah Extension 1899_1
Box 72 File 3430 Carolina Midland Savannah Extension 1899_2 (in file 1)
Box 72 File 3430 Carolina Midland Savannah Extension 1899_3 (in file 1)
Box 72 File 3430 Carolina Midland Savannah Extension 1899_4 (Fin data not scanned)
Box 791 File 10283 WWII compliments
Box 81 File 3778  Banana Car
Box 81 File 3779 Motor Wagons
Box 81 File 3784 air brakes
Box 81 File 3802 Atlanta Union Station ticket shortage
Box 81 File 3819 West Pt VA prop lease
Box 83 File 3859 RF&P (1899-1901)
Box 88 File 3920 Hardeevile Extension Pt 1
Box 88 File 3920 Hardeevile Extension Pt 2
Box 88 File 3924 LE&StL 1900
Box 89 File 3944 SAL comb with GC&N May 1901
Box 89 File 3945 Obs on Tr 37 &38
Box 89 File 3970 joint use contract 374 Harriman Jct TN 1904
Box 9 File 23 1940-51 Railroad Equip 
Box 9 File 41 AGS Shops
Box 9 File 45 Charleston, SC depot track blueprints (mty to location file)
Box 9 File 46  Charleston, SC depot tracks (mty to location file)
Box 9 File 47 Mobile Union Sta partial floorplan
Box 9 File44  Bham 27th St Interlocking blueprints (mty to location files)
Box 9 Files 42 & 43 Birmingham Term Sta blueprints
Box 93 File 4206 1900 Tr 34 comb with ACL
Box 93 File 4239 Bowdon, GA
Box 93 File 4240 Freight Car Status - 1900
Box 94 File 4260 Jessup, GA (1900) (mty to loc file)
Box 99A File 2 1900 C&WC contract 159
Box 99A File 4 Central Junction (to location file)
Box A File 1-775 Florida Train 1906 (moved)
Box A File 5 Southern Fla Spl consist 1894-1895 (moved to in dividual train files)
Box C File 38 Palm Ltd electric lighting 1906 copy (moved to indiv train file)
Box D File 46 Selma, NC (moved to location file)
Box D File 47 Chattanooga Station Co (moved to location file)
Box D File 50 Y and turntable at Orange, VA
Box D File 56 Greensboro track changes 1906 (to location file)
Box D File 58 Asheville, NC changes 1905-1911 (to location file)
Box F File 75 Dining Car Service 1905-07 (mty to dining car services file)
Box F File 77 Louisville Shop 1905-07 (moved to location files)
Box H File 85 Track Scales 1905-15 (to location files)
Box H File 91 Lake Toxaway, NC pass service (moved to location file)
Spencer File 1894
box 309 file 8436


Locked Re: 1400 series retirements

George Courtney
 

BIll Wade, owner of BTS, has the Prince book for sale at $115.  If you can't find it anywhere else.

George Courtney


Locked Early Southern & Q&C Freight Car Number Series

George Eichelberger
 

All:

Here is a response sent to Dave Queener asking about early Southern freight cars. The subject needs more serious research but here is my “take” on the subject. If anyone has other comments, please post them.

Ike


Dave:

Operations that became part of the SRS after 1894 continued to buy their own rolling stock until, and after, they were absorbed into the Southern. The Southern attempted to organize its freight and passenger car documentation starting about 1906. Integrating everything from the predecessor (usually bankrupt) railroads, in some cases, took until the equipment was scrapped. Researching freight cars of that period is made more difficult because cars from different builders, construction dates and even dimensions were lumped into the same car series. Car interchange rules were simpler and things such as car leases and trusts took priority as the company “books” were organized.

SRHA does have the original car numbers for most of the acquired equipment, and their new Southern numbers. In most cases, not much more is know about many cars except what we can find in the ICC Valuation files that began in 1916. Many of the entries there are only estimates by various Master Mechanics because no earlier data was available.

Research is needed but I expect that was simply because of the amount of work needed to get everything organized with the fact that wooden cars of the era either wore out quickly or became obsolete as new truck and underframe designs allowed 40 and 50 ton cars.

To anyone’s knowledge, there are NO “wood car era” freight car diagram books. The four volume version set SRHA published, and sold hundreds of copies, were drawn in the mid 70s. The oldest known version, which we have, dates to the late 50s. It does include some very early cars but not many. For whatever reason, the Southern did not create or publish “diagram book” style drawings before that. If there were any, we would have found at least individual pages or drawings after all these years of looking.

The pre-70s diagram book could be published, in addition to another passenger car book. It’s just a question of time and effort.

Ike


Locked September Work Session

Carl Ardrey
 

Due to the close proximity to the SRHA/LNHS/RPM at the end of the month the September work session scheduled for the 16th and 17th is annulled. SRHA will have a table at the Collinsville RPM this month. Stop by and see us.

CEA

 

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Locked News from the Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society

Cohen Bob
 

Just in case you hadn't already heard this news:



 Notes and News from the Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society

 

The C&O Historical Society is excited to share news of the launch of a new Virginia-based railroad excursion service with our members and friends.

 

 

All Aboard!

Virginia Scenic Railway to Launch in August 

 

 

 

The C&O Historical Society is excited to share news of the launch of a new Virginia-based railroad excursion service with our members and friends.  

 

Our colleagues at the Buckingham Branch Railroad are starting up Virginia's first regularly scheduled passenger excursion service next month, and you are invited to be among the first to be able to reserve a ticket on the Virginia Scenic Railway!

 

Starting August 4th, the Virginia Scenic Railway will offer twice-daily sightseeing excursions through the legendary Shenandoah Valley — complete with tabletop meal service in a beautifully modernized 1940's-era Budd passenger car. 

 

·     The Blue Ridge Flyer goes east from Staunton towards the town of Ivy. On the way, you’ll pass by Staunton and Waynesboro before ascending roughly 1,000 feet up to Afton Mountain where you’ll experience the thrill of roaring through the Blue Ridge Tunnel before turning around for a repeat run through the tunnel. 



·     The Alleghany Special heads west from Staunton’s historic downtown, passing through the rural landscape and working farms of western Virginia as you wind your way towards the George Washington and Jefferson National Forest before turning around in Goshen for the trip back to Staunton.

 

All rides are three-hour round trips, and trains depart from the Amtrak station in historic Staunton, Virginia. Excursions will be available every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Advance reservations are required (see website for online ticketing.) 

Additional routes will be added in the future, as well as shorter seasonal excursions for younger train fans. 

 

As you might imagine, demand for this new service is expected to be high so we encourage you to reserve your ticket as soon as possible.

 

More information, including route descriptions, social media links, online ticketing, and FAQs are available online. To stay in the loop with the Virginia Scenic Railway's latest news and special event information, sign up on the website.

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information or questions please

Call: 434-391-9772

 

 

C&O Historical Society | 312 East Ridgeway Street, Clifton Forge, VA 24422



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Locked Re: 1400 series retirements

Evan Whatley
 

Will-  Let me second your thoughts. The Prince book is well worth the cost.
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-Evan Whatley


Locked Re: 1400 series retirements

Will Kesler
 

I might has well just buy the book so I can answer all my questions so that’s okay.


Locked Re: 1400 series retirements

Doug Alexander
 

The Price book has a comprehensive list of dispositions of all Southern steam, including the Ps-4s.  If you don't have it, perhaps I can scan the appropriate sections, or someone else has it already done.


Doug Alexander

Model Trains Department
HobbyTownUSA
840 Barrett Parkway NW 
Kennesaw, GA 30144

Main   770-426-8800
Cell     404-272-2986


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Doug Alexander
Atlanta


Locked 1400 series retirements

Will Kesler
 

I’ve seen a sheet of the retirements of 4-6-2 pacific engines 1318-1399. Is there any kind of documentation of the 1400 series pacifics?