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locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

cajordan2
 

Michael, 

If you do have some printed, I would definitely like to buy a few sets.

Chad



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...>
Date: 2/2/21 2:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io, main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

A&Y Dave in MD
 

I use Donnie’s artwork to create custom decals printed by Highball Graphics. Attached is my current project using just that.



Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Feb 2, 2021, at 1:12 PM, michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...> wrote:


Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked Re: DT&I Study of 1975

 

A fascinating what-if scenario there.


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

michael DUNNINGTON
 

Adrian:
Thanks for the info.  I've not yet heard from Mr. Dixon, but hoping he'll reach out to me.
I'm wondering if he'd be willing to allow HighBall Graphics to run some sets of the steam decals?  That sounds a whole lot easier than trying to find a functioning ALPS.  I just want a few sets for my personal use, but there might be other folks out there who'd buy them if available.
Thanks again,
Michael

On Monday, February 1, 2021, 03:09:19 PM CST, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <abridgemansutton@...> wrote:


Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot.  If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian




> 1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
> 2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
> Michael Dunnington
> St. Louis, MO, area

>






locked DT&I Study of 1975

George Eichelberger
 

Sorry attachment did not work for first attempt.

The attached is page 4 of a 1975 study of the DT&I by the Southern. The idea, revisited in 1977, was to expand the Southern north of Cincinnati at the beginning of the Conrail era for $18.161M additional SRS revenue.

Ike


locked Re: SR Trackage Rights on N&W

Robert W. Grabarek, Jr.
 

Dear Ike,

Great research and interesting correspondence.  I never saw either study, but I first heard about the trackage rights proposal in 1973.  Looks like Mr. Claytor had a bee in his bonnet about this proposal.  I see that Bob Reid wrote the 1976 reply for Mr. Tipton.  Mr. Claytor said no coal would be transported over this route, but I wonder what was in the cars to be picked up at Bulls Gap.  I never worked between Alexandria and Spencer so I'm not familiar with the customers on that route.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: George Eichelberger
Sent: Feb 1, 2021 8:34 AM
To: "main@southernrailway.groups.io"
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] SR Trackage Rights on N&W

Bob:

You may be familiar with the study that produced the attached 5-18-76 letter from J.R. Tipton to H.H. Bradley that describes traffic blocks that could be implemented with a new operating plan that included the Bristol-Lynchburg trackage.

Ike



On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Bob Grabarek wrote:

Dear Ike,

This 1976 letter was of interest to me.  When I worked in Transportation Planning in 1973 I was told that the group had looked at gaining trackage rights from Bristol to Lynchburg and had concluded that they would be of little value.  I wonder what changed.

Bob Grabarek


locked Re: Birmingham AL

John Stewart
 

HI Charles and all

 

You are very welcome.  I think the brochure was given to me by Jason Parham who is the GM&O guru in these parts.

 

John

 

John R Stewart

www.bhamrails.info

205-901-3790

 

image004

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io [mailto:main@SouthernRailway.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Harris
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 3:49 PM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Birmingham AL

 

Hi John

Thanks for this great info and maps.   Some great photos in the brochure.

 

Charles

 

 

On 1/02/21 2:30 PM, John Stewart wrote:

HI folks

 

Ingalls Iron Works in Birmingham is gone c.2006.  There is a good video of the empty plant on YouTube by Anderson Williams and friends.

 

https://youtu.be/zFMj-tT4vD0

 

2005 imagery from Google Earth Pro.  It was adjacent to the L&N mainline just SW of downtown Birmingham, and just west of I-65 at University Drive.

 

 

I’ve always understood that the locomotive was built in Pascagoula, MS, but I’m no expert on the subject.

 

John

 

John R Stewart

www.bhamrails.info

205-901-3790

 

image004

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io [mailto:main@SouthernRailway.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Harris
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Birmingham AL

 

Hi
Just for interest sake is the main railroad on attached doc Southern Railway or all possibly L&N ?    Tallking 1940-50s.       I do not have any knowledge of this area.

Note that there was a siding or a transverse thru the Ingalls Iron Works factory in Birmingham AL.  Still there ??

Thanks
Charles


locked Re: Birmingham AL

Charles Harris
 

Hi John

Thanks for this great info and maps.   Some great photos in the brochure.


Charles



On 1/02/21 2:30 PM, John Stewart wrote:

HI folks

 

Ingalls Iron Works in Birmingham is gone c.2006.  There is a good video of the empty plant on YouTube by Anderson Williams and friends.

 

https://youtu.be/zFMj-tT4vD0

 

2005 imagery from Google Earth Pro.  It was adjacent to the L&N mainline just SW of downtown Birmingham, and just west of I-65 at University Drive.

 

 

I’ve always understood that the locomotive was built in Pascagoula, MS, but I’m no expert on the subject.

 

John

 

John R Stewart

www.bhamrails.info

205-901-3790

 

image004

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io [mailto:main@SouthernRailway.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Harris
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Birmingham AL

 

Hi
Just for interest sake is the main railroad on attached doc Southern Railway or all possibly L&N ?    Tallking 1940-50s.       I do not have any knowledge of this area.

Note that there was a siding or a transverse thru the Ingalls Iron Works factory in Birmingham AL.  Still there ??

Thanks
Charles


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
 

Michael

I have the artwork if you still need it, but since Donnie has been
copied he'll probably sort you out very quickly.

Printing decals to work on black backgrounds normally requires you to
use a special printer that can lay down a perfectly registered opaque
white backing for the coloured inks . Inkjets and laser printers only
use transparent inks and rely on the white paper to show the colours -
if you apply them on a dark surface the decal will simply disappear.
If you know someone who has an old ALPS printer which is still in
working order, that is one way, but they are getting a bit thin on the
ground, being rather old technology and rather fragile to boot. If
you are really into printing your own, there's quite a market in
refurbished ALPS printers in Japan, and a strong enthusiast community
but it's certainly not a hobby for the impecunious.

Companies like HighBall graphics can do custom runs in reasonably
small batches, which would still be a lot cheaper than finding,
recommissioning and learning to use an old ALPS.

HTH
Aidrian

1. Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use. Are these still available, and where can I find them?
2. Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender. I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up. I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Michael Dunnington
St. Louis, MO, area


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

Michael Roderick
 

Mike:

 

Donnie has released more stuff including updates on the decals. I have CC him in on this email so you can ask him those questions.

 

 

Mike Roderick

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Young via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 13:07
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

 

You could open the image file in a graphics editing app, and use a color selection tool to select the black background area, then delete it, or replace the black pixels with white (which is basically the same thing).  That would remove the black background and leave the letters/numbers.  You may have to experiment with the selection tool's sensitivity setting, to make sure you get a clean edge to the letters/numbers.

Mike Young 

-----Original Message-----
From: michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...>
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2021 12:55 pm
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

Friends:
I have two questions.........

1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Michael Dunnington

St. Louis, MO, area


locked Re: Steam Decal Artwork

Michael Young
 

You could open the image file in a graphics editing app, and use a color selection tool to select the black background area, then delete it, or replace the black pixels with white (which is basically the same thing).  That would remove the black background and leave the letters/numbers.  You may have to experiment with the selection tool's sensitivity setting, to make sure you get a clean edge to the letters/numbers.
Mike Young 


-----Original Message-----
From: michael DUNNINGTON <cvlwrnut@...>
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2021 12:55 pm
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Steam Decal Artwork

Friends:
I have two questions.........
1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Michael Dunnington
St. Louis, MO, area


locked Steam Decal Artwork

michael DUNNINGTON
 

Friends:
I have two questions.........
1.  Several years ago, someone (Donnie Dixon, I think) offered artwork for SOU steam decals, to be printed for personal use.  Are these still available, and where can I find them?
2.  Back when I printed them, the black-background, freight, decals "disappeared" when applied to a locomotive/tender.  I had to paint white the areas where decals were to go in order for them to show up.  I'm wondering if I used the wrong (clear) inkjet decal paper, or if there is a way to only print the numbers, letters, etc, and not the black background??
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Michael Dunnington
St. Louis, MO, area


locked Re: A pleasant surprise!

Michael Young
 

I did?  I remember posting it in the Southern Ry Collectibles Group on Facebook, but I don't remember sharing it anywhere else.  That's why I was surprised to see it in A.O.  I hope I'm not having a "senior moment" LOL.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Schafer <bill4501@...>
To: main@southernrailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2021 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] A pleasant surprise!

Thank you, Mike, for submitting the material.

—Bill

On Feb 1, 2021, at 12:37, Michael Young via groups.io <michaeljy@...> wrote:

Received the Q4 edition of Ties, and was surprised to find the article re my milepost in the November 12, 2020 issue of Among Ourselves.
Just wanted to post a note of thanks to the editing team for the well-written story.

Mike Young


locked Re: A pleasant surprise!

Bill Schafer
 

Thank you, Mike, for submitting the material.

—Bill

On Feb 1, 2021, at 12:37, Michael Young via groups.io <michaeljy@...> wrote:

Received the Q4 edition of Ties, and was surprised to find the article re my milepost in the November 12, 2020 issue of Among Ourselves.
Just wanted to post a note of thanks to the editing team for the well-written story.

Mike Young


locked A pleasant surprise!

Michael Young
 

Received the Q4 edition of Ties, and was surprised to find the article re my milepost in the November 12, 2020 issue of Among Ourselves.
Just wanted to post a note of thanks to the editing team for the well-written story.

Mike Young


locked SRHA apparel now available

Kevin Centers
 


Happy Monday everyone,

SRHA is happy to announce that we now offer embroidered apparel!  You can order quality hats, shirts, jackets and vests in all sizes for ladies and gentlemen in our online store.  Some of the items can even be personalized with your name.  And filling your closet with fashionable SRHA clothing is now easier than ever.  You simply Click Here and shop all you want.  Or you can visit our web site at www.srha.net and click on the link in the What’s New announcements.  Orders are processed upon receipt and are typically delivered to your home in 10-15 days. 

Due to our partnership with SquadLocker and the fact that we don’t have to inventory these items, we are able to customize our store and offer many and varied items.  So if you have an item in mind that you don’t find in our store, please let me know, and I’ll see if we can offer it.  And part of your purchase goes to support the SRHA.  Not a member?  That’s ok, simply visit our website and sign up.  We offer several levels of membership, including a lifetime option. 

Looking for a personal endorsement?  I placed my order for two shirts and a hat on Jan. 15.  It was delivered on the 28th.  The shirts are made by Russell Athletic and Under Armor.  I chose the Pacific Headwear flexfit cap (even though I seldom wear a hat).  They all fit well and I’m very pleased with the quality of the embroidery.  Below are pictures of the items I ordered.    

So if you want to help out SRHA, and display your membership, please visit our store and get some cool gear.

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin Centers

SRHA Treasurer

 

 

        


locked Re: SR Trackage Rights on N&W

George Eichelberger
 

Bob:

You may be familiar with the study that produced the attached 5-18-76 letter from J.R. Tipton to H.H. Bradley that describes traffic blocks that could be implemented with a new operating plan that included the Bristol-Lynchburg trackage.

Ike



On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Bob Grabarek wrote:

Dear Ike,

This 1976 letter was of interest to me.  When I worked in Transportation Planning in 1973 I was told that the group had looked at gaining trackage rights from Bristol to Lynchburg and had concluded that they would be of little value.  I wonder what changed.

Bob Grabarek


locked Re: Birmingham AL

John Stewart
 

HI folks

 

Ingalls Iron Works in Birmingham is gone c.2006.  There is a good video of the empty plant on YouTube by Anderson Williams and friends.

 

https://youtu.be/zFMj-tT4vD0

 

2005 imagery from Google Earth Pro.  It was adjacent to the L&N mainline just SW of downtown Birmingham, and just west of I-65 at University Drive.

 

 

I’ve always understood that the locomotive was built in Pascagoula, MS, but I’m no expert on the subject.

 

John

 

John R Stewart

www.bhamrails.info

205-901-3790

 

image004

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io [mailto:main@SouthernRailway.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Harris
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:58 PM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Birmingham AL

 

Hi
Just for interest sake is the main railroad on attached doc Southern Railway or all possibly L&N ?    Tallking 1940-50s.       I do not have any knowledge of this area.

Note that there was a siding or a transverse thru the Ingalls Iron Works factory in Birmingham AL.  Still there ??

Thanks
Charles


locked Birmingham AL

Charles Harris
 

Hi
Just for interest sake is the main railroad on attached doc Southern Railway or all possibly L&N ?    Tallking 1940-50s.       I do not have any knowledge of this area.

Note that there was a siding or a transverse thru the Ingalls Iron Works factory in Birmingham AL.  Still there ??

Thanks
Charles


locked Ingalls 4-S Diesel Locomotive --- Construction

Charles Harris
 

Hi
This time my request is re the build did occur in Decatur of the Ingalls 4-S.   Some construction I believe was carried out in two locations, Decatur AL and Pascagoula MS.

At the Ingalls facilities in Decatur AL, could have been Iron Works or Shipbuilding divisions, a person by name of Mr. James Snow, worked on the project.  And do any Decatur-ians on this group have relatives or knowledge of the Snow family ??

Thanks

Charles Harris

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