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moderated Re: Roof hatch boxcar uses

George Eichelberger
 
Edited

Scott:

Sorry for the delay posting you question. A list moderator has to okay only the first post from a subscriber. There is no way to change that but it would keep us from being overrun by a spammer.

I've attached one page from the May, 1973 roof hatch car assignment list. We can post whatever is in the archives files. The lists include both 40 and 50 ft cars and
show clay, bauxite and phosphate. I can add one more commodity I have seen in the files, aluminum dross from Ford. We need to confirm but those few cars were very early and I remember only had two roof hatches. Is anyone aware of other shippers or loads?

We have accumulated plenty of material for a TIES article on these cars if anyone would like to take that on as a project.

For modelers, the WrightTrack model builds into a very good looking car. I've attached a photo of one I did before it was completely decaled and weathered.
Ike

moderated Southern Railway Valuation Section Maps

George Eichelberger
 

Before posting some examples of rolling stock data from the ICC forms, here are the "index" maps showing the Valuation Sections for the Southern Railway. Note that other parts of the "Southern Railway System" are not included. The CNO&TP, AGS, etc. had their own accounts and ICC reporting requirements. We have many of those documents in the archives but we need to do a complete inventory (and make scans if there is interest).

To limit the size of this email, they are on Google Drive at the following link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x9OWOMvx10j2tdDZbLlVmNFaJlvYuGIL?usp=sharing

Eventually, we will establish a digital archive at Chattanooga with an off-site backup. There is already a high speed fiber optic link to the archives building that gives us excellent WiFi connectivity. Anyone knowledgable about the Internet and data servers is welcome to help plan, acquire and install the server hardware. We will then be able to transition SRHA archives documents onto our own searchable platform and not rely on services such as Google Drive.

Ike

moderated Re: Southern Railway Valuation Section Maps

Tim
 

Thanks Ike. This should help finding things even in other collections. I'll be going to the Washington, DC, area this week for the MER convention. If things are on time, I may hit the Library of Congress to look at these documents there. The section I'm interested in is labeled 33. What does that refer to?

To any others that have done this before, any tips on investigating documents at the LOC?

Thanks,
Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC

moderated Re: Southern Railway Valuation Section Maps

George Eichelberger
 

Tim:

I understand the ICC records (the originals) are in a warehouse in MD. I cannot imagine how big the place must be after seeing the scope of what SRHA has for just the Southern and CofG…imagine the PRR or UP!

The “33” you are seeing is most likely the Valuation Section number for the line segment you are interested in. All of the fixed plant (i.e not rolling stock or “unassigned”) records are based on the State and Val Section. Val sections are on a state by state basis, the numbers may be repeated. I expect you want NC Val Section 33. Note also, you want to make sure you find the different accounts 15, 16, whatever, that include depots, water stations, etc. for that Section. They may appear in different books and an account may only be found in the year a change was made to that category. 

I will post some rolling stock records later today or tomorrow. Those records are reasonably good at showing predecessor railroads’ car numbers, built dates, original costs, etc. The oldest piece of Southern MoW equipment I found dated back to the Civil War. It was included in the initial Engineering Reports but gone by 1916.

 Ike


On Oct 1, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Tim <tarumph@...> wrote:

Thanks Ike. This should help finding things even in other collections. I'll be going to the Washington, DC, area this week for the MER convention. If things are on time, I may hit the Library of Congress to look at these documents there. The section I'm interested in is labeled 33. What does that refer to?

To any others that have done this before, any tips on investigating documents at the LOC?

Thanks,
Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC

moderated Re: Southern Railway Valuation Section Maps

A&Y Dave in MD
 

You actually want the National Archives and Records Administration in College Park.  Note that this is a multi-day visit most times. You order things, they find them on MASSIVE compact shelving units, they bring them to a viewing room. No pens, only pencils to avoid marking anything permanently. Digital image equipment allowed.


Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Oct 1, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Tim <tarumph@...> wrote:

Thanks Ike. This should help finding things even in other collections. I'll be going to the Washington, DC, area this week for the MER convention. If things are on time, I may hit the Library of Congress to look at these documents there. The section I'm interested in is labeled 33. What does that refer to?

To any others that have done this before, any tips on investigating documents at the LOC?

Thanks,
Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC

moderated Re: Southern Railway Valuation Section Maps

Tim
 

Thanks Dave. Sounds like a subject for a trip next year, since my vacation's done for this year.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 08:06 PM, A&Y Dave in MD wrote:
You actually want the National Archives and Records Administration in College Park.  Note that this is a multi-day visit most times. You order things, they find them on MASSIVE compact shelving units, they bring them to a viewing room. No pens, only pencils to avoid marking anything permanently. Digital image equipment allowed.
 
 
Dave

moderated TIES Magazine, SRHA's Quarterly Journal

Bill Schafer
 

TIES Magazine is the quarterly journal of the Southern Railway Historical Association. It is nominally 32 pages, with prototype articles, mention of notable restorations of Southern Railway equipment or structures, personality profiles (and obituaries), and many other tidbits pertaining to the Premier Carrier of the South. TIES for the 3rd quarter of 2018 (2018-3) is at the printer and will be mailed in the next week or two. TIES has been published since 1987, first as a bimonthly magazine, and, since 2012, as a quarterly. White River Productions does a professional job laying out the magazine, and they arrange for its printing and distribution.

Here's the cover of the 2018-3 TIES. Spoiler alert: much of the subject matter relates to Winston-Salem, N.C. We will also feature additional articles about the Southern in Winston-Salem in 2018-4 TIES. 

Speaking of 2018-4 TIES, here are some other articles we're planning: Southern's Spring Street office building renovation; restoration of an E8 and a 1970 boxcar; first person account of a close call on a Washington Division local freight; and (if space permits) a retrospective of Southern's 2-10-2s.

We have compiled a table of contents for all TIES since 2012. It's in an Excel spreadsheet, so it's searchable. All back issues are available from SRHA - check our website (www.srha.net) for pricing and shipping. 

We are always looking for Southern Railway-related articles to share with our membership - if you have a story to tell, send it to us. Just be sure to have enough source material to make a good article, and if you have some images to go with it, so much the better. Don't worry if think you can't write - that's what editors are for.

--Bill Schafer, Co-editor, TIES Magazine

moderated 2019 SRHA Calendar

Bill Schafer
 

All:

This is a repost since I think the original was deleted. 

—Bill


SRHA's full-color calendar for 2019 is now available. It consists of 14 images, a Southern Railway map, and extended captions for each image. It's a bargain at $10 plus $3 shipping. Here's the flyer:

moderated Re: 2019 SRHA Calendar

Doug Alexander
 

If you "give" some to Steve, you need to "give" some to me at HTK, too!
Just sayin'.
 
Doug



From: Chris Smith <smittydieseldoc@...>
To: "main@southernrailway.groups.io" <main@southernrailway.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [SouthernRailway] 2019 SRHA Calendar

Are you going to give some to Steve for sale in his store?

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018, Bill Schafer <bill4501@...> wrote:
SRHA's full-color calendar for 2019 is now available. It consists of 14 images, a Southern Railway map, and extended captions for each image. It's a bargain at $10 plus $3 shipping. Here's the flyer:


moderated Re: October Work Session at new SRHA archives building

Marv Clemons
 

Good to see it all coming together, George.  I’ll be at the museum the weekend of November 9-11 and hope to take a peek if you or someone with access is around.

 

~ Marv

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Eichelberger
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 10:47 AM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] October Work Session at new SRHA archives building

 

All:

Work on the TVRM/SRHA archives building has progressed a great deal since we put a "photo tour" on the SRHA web site (www.srha.net) in August. If you compare those photos to the two I've attached here, you'll notice a huge difference. The "new" photos are about two weeks old and do not show the completed drop ceiling framework, HVAC, electrical and lighting in place. The crates visible in the photos are a portion of SRHA's "Spacesaver" shelving removed from Kennesaw. The Spacesaver agent for GA and TN will start installing them next Wednesday and will be done by Friday of next week. With the shelves installed, we will be able to unpack more than 1,000 archives boxes of SR Presidents' files, books and Valuation Section field notes. We can continue to work in the "office" area of the building on the Southern and Central of Georgia drawing collection, the photo files and nearly 400,000 microfilm aperture cards, 300,000 in the ACL/SALHS collection covering virtually every (!) CSX predecessor and another 100,000 or so Southern and CofG cards.

The work session is set for Friday Oct 19th and Saturday the 20th. We are in the archives more than two days per month. If anyone would like to help, or just visit the facility any other time, please send an email to archives@... and we'll see what can be arranged.

Ike


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moderated Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

George Eichelberger
 

Every trackage rights or joint trackage arrangement, Union Station agreement, crossing or interchange between railroads was documented by a contract or agreement negotiated and signed by the parties. Many use essentially the same "boilerplate" language, with specific details added, multiple times. Terms and conditions for different kinds of agreements became almost standardized. That served to simplify negotiations and give everyone a basic understanding of what an agreement included. Many of the points included in the trackage rights agreement between the NC&StL, the Memphis and Charleston and the East Tennessee and Georgia dated October 1, 1880 can be found in agreements negotiated many years later. In fact, many of the the Main and Supplemental agreement conditions contained in Southern Railway contract file No.9 are still in effect between Norfolk Southern and CSX between Stevenson, AL and Wauhatchie, TN today. (NC&StL trackage was used from Wauhatchie to Chattanooga by both the M&C and what became the AGS until the Southern built its own line, through the Lookout Mtn. tunnel.) Reading past the boilerplate we find very specific details about what is covered.

The second example in the Google Drive file illustrates the kinds of maps or drawings attached to some agreements. It is from a 1948 agreement between the Southern and the NC&StL for Howell Jct in Atlanta. Here, the details are all important; which railroad was responsible for every signal, crossing and turnout, which controlled the crossing, etc. Howell i particularly interesting because of its complexity and that there were individual agreements covering the NC&StL (W&A), Seaboard and Southern. The agreement pages were scanned in bound books so they are not "pretty" but include the entire agreement. The Howell Jct. drawing was a fold out attachment that was unbound to make a high quality copy that could be published if someone wrote a "TIES" or L&NHS magazine article on the subject.

Although only a small number of agreements have been scanned completely, the SRHA archives contain approximately 1,203 different examples. The Southern accumulated and bound contracts in books that were distributed to officials through the system. When each of twenty-six (known?) books were produced, a cumulative index was added that included every agreement in force at that time. When contracts expired or were cancelled, they were omitted from the index. The index from Volume XXII issued September 1, 1945 is the third document in the Google Drive file and provides an idea of the scope of the collection. (The first number in an entry is the volume that includes the agreement, the second number is the contract number.)

Scanning contracts and attachments is an on-going task for archives volunteers.

Ike

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B-S_UsKX7JpYfl7acZZ2Zrl1_b8Mmjnw?usp=sharing

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Ike,

A good restoration librarian can unbind a bound book so it can be scanned flat and then rebound in the original manner, preserving the original and improving the digital edition. My friend at the Michigan State University archive helped with the CF&YV 1892 Prospectus that Matt Bumgarner had reproduced.

You might see if you can get someone at UT Chattanooga or other nearby archive library to see if a deal could be struck.

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Oct 5, 2018, at 6:06 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

Every trackage rights or joint trackage arrangement, Union Station agreement, crossing or interchange between railroads was documented by a contract or agreement negotiated and signed by the parties. Many use essentially the same "boilerplate" language, with specific details added, multiple times. Terms and conditions for different kinds of agreements became almost standardized. That served to simplify negotiations and give everyone a basic understanding of what an agreement included. Many of the points included in the trackage rights agreement between the NC&StL, the Memphis and Charleston and the East Tennessee and Georgia dated October 1, 1880 can be found in agreements negotiated many years later. In fact, many of the the Main and Supplemental agreement conditions contained in Southern Railway contract file No.9 are still in effect between Norfolk Southern and CSX between Stevenson, AL and Wauhatchie, TN today. (NC&StL trackage was used from Wauhatchie to Chattanooga by both the M&C and what became the AGS until the Southern built its own line, through the Lookout Mtn. tunnel.) Reading past the boilerplate we find very specific details about what is covered.

The second example in the Google Drive file illustrates the kinds of maps or drawings attached to some agreements. It is from a 1948 agreement between the Southern and the NC&StL for Howell Jct in Atlanta. Here, the details are all important; which railroad was responsible for every signal, crossing and turnout, which controlled the crossing, etc. Howell i particularly interesting because of its complexity and that there were individual agreements covering the NC&StL (W&A), Seaboard and Southern. The agreement pages were scanned in bound books so they are not "pretty" but include the entire agreement. The Howell Jct. drawing was a fold out attachment that was unbound to make a high quality copy that could be published if someone wrote a "TIES" or L&NHS magazine article on the subject.

Although only a small number of agreements have been scanned completely, the SRHA archives contain approximately 1,203 different examples. The Southern accumulated and bound contracts in books that were distributed to officials through the system. When each of twenty-six (known?) books were produced, a cumulative index was added that included every agreement in force at that time. When contracts expired or were cancelled, they were omitted from the index. The index from Volume XXII issued September 1, 1945 is the third document in the Google Drive file and provides an idea of the scope of the collection. (The first number in an entry is the volume that includes the agreement, the second number is the contract number.)

Scanning contracts and attachments is an on-going task for archives volunteers.

Ike

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B-S_UsKX7JpYfl7acZZ2Zrl1_b8Mmjnw?usp=sharing

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

George Eichelberger
 

Dave:

Thanks for you comments…..

One set of bound contracts came from the GA Div office in Atlanta. It sat in a bookcase, apparently unused, for years wth direct sunlight on the bindings. The silk thread used in the binding were in good shape but most of the spines were too far gone to save. Although the NC&StL contract in my example was in a bound book, most of the other volumes have been unbound. The fact that bindings were in such poor shape (in many cases) plus the impossibility of scanning their attachments made unbinding them a logical decision.)

Some will certainly disagree but our approach with the SRHA archives materials has been to organize and preserve it to be used, rather than be kept as artifacts. We recently acquired a second set of the contract books and know of a third so the decision to unbind one set was not difficult. By making a full set of scans (a big job with 1,200 agreements), copies can be sent to people doing research without having to go to Chattanooga.

One overriding issue is the fact that people that worked for, or knew, the Southern are aging. If our archives materials are not made use of in the next ten or so years, we will have a marvelous pile of paper that few people will care about.

Because we have the entire Southern Railway President’s files, there are many cases where we have both the printed contracts AND the Executive Dept files that led up to those agreements. They contain draft agreements, correspondence and internal memos on the subject. When research combines those assets with photos and drawings in the collection, we can describe important events in the history of the Southern in ways we never expected. I suggest finding a copy of TIES with the article on the collapse of the Tennessee River Bridge in Chattanooga as an example.

Ike



On Oct 5, 2018, at 9:19 PM, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:

Ike,

A good restoration librarian can unbind a bound book so it can be scanned flat and then rebound in the original manner, preserving the original and improving the digital edition. My friend at the Michigan State University archive helped with the CF&YV 1892 Prospectus that Matt Bumgarner had reproduced.

You might see if you can get someone at UT Chattanooga or other nearby archive library to see if a deal could be struck.

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Oct 5, 2018, at 6:06 PM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

Every trackage rights or joint trackage arrangement, Union Station agreement, crossing or interchange between railroads was documented by a contract or agreement negotiated and signed by the parties. Many use essentially the same "boilerplate" language, with specific details added, multiple times. Terms and conditions for different kinds of agreements became almost standardized. That served to simplify negotiations and give everyone a basic understanding of what an agreement included. Many of the points included in the trackage rights agreement between the NC&StL, the Memphis and Charleston and the East Tennessee and Georgia dated October 1, 1880 can be found in agreements negotiated many years later. In fact, many of the the Main and Supplemental agreement conditions contained in Southern Railway contract file No.9 are still in effect between Norfolk Southern and CSX between Stevenson, AL and Wauhatchie, TN today. (NC&StL trackage was used from Wauhatchie to Chattanooga by both the M&C and what became the AGS until the Southern built its own line, through the Lookout Mtn. tunnel.) Reading past the boilerplate we find very specific details about what is covered.

The second example in the Google Drive file illustrates the kinds of maps or drawings attached to some agreements. It is from a 1948 agreement between the Southern and the NC&StL for Howell Jct in Atlanta. Here, the details are all important; which railroad was responsible for every signal, crossing and turnout, which controlled the crossing, etc. Howell i particularly interesting because of its complexity and that there were individual agreements covering the NC&StL (W&A), Seaboard and Southern. The agreement pages were scanned in bound books so they are not "pretty" but include the entire agreement. The Howell Jct. drawing was a fold out attachment that was unbound to make a high quality copy that could be published if someone wrote a "TIES" or L&NHS magazine article on the subject.

Although only a small number of agreements have been scanned completely, the SRHA archives contain approximately 1,203 different examples. The Southern accumulated and bound contracts in books that were distributed to officials through the system. When each of twenty-six (known?) books were produced, a cumulative index was added that included every agreement in force at that time. When contracts expired or were cancelled, they were omitted from the index. The index from Volume XXII issued September 1, 1945 is the third document in the Google Drive file and provides an idea of the scope of the collection. (The first number in an entry is the volume that includes the agreement, the second number is the contract number.)

Scanning contracts and attachments is an on-going task for archives volunteers.

Ike

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B-S_UsKX7JpYfl7acZZ2Zrl1_b8Mmjnw?usp=sharing

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

Jason Greene
 

Any chance Vol. 4 Contract 263 has been scanned? I would like to see if it might fill a gap in the history that I have been working on for the Sloss Sheffield/US Pipe railroad history. It is fairly complete but there are a few gaps still.

Jason Greene

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

Jason Greene
 

6-361 would also be of interest for the history I mentioned before.

Jason Greene

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

George Eichelberger
 

Jason:

Good to hear from you…

Sorry, I don’t see “361” in the scanned files. It may be simply because we have not got to it yet. What is it about?

I know you are interested in the BIrmingham area. It may be the largest number of contracts of any specific area. The trackage rights agreements around B’ham, plus the Terminal Station agreements, street trackage, etc. all need to be researched and written up in TIES.

Ike

On Oct 5, 2018, at 10:11 PM, Jason Greene <jason.p.greene@...> wrote:

6-361 would also be of interest for the history I mentioned before.

Jason Greene

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

George Eichelberger
 

Jason:

Sorry no again! There is a “hole” in the scaned files from 245 to 268. That may be a book we do not have or have not worked on yet. The second set of bound contracts may have books that were missing from the first set. We are now at the point where we will be able to locate and organize everything in our archives in the next month or so.

As you may recognize, while we have many projects to do, the SR Contracts files need some attention.

Ike



On Oct 5, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Jason Greene <jason.p.greene@...> wrote:

Any chance Vol. 4 Contract 263 has been scanned? I would like to see if it might fill a gap in the history that I have been working on for the Sloss Sheffield/US Pipe railroad history. It is fairly complete but there are a few gaps still.

Jason Greene

moderated Re: Southern Railway Contracts and Agreements in the SRHA Archives

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Ike,

That's good news on the bindings.  I agree on the idea of getting the stuff to people who understand and know it while they are alive!  Good priorities.  I truly wished I lived closer to help!

I can tell you I wish I could chat with the survey engineers who did the ICC valuation in 1916-1918 on the A&Y!  Much of it is legible (100 year old pencil on graph paper digitally imaged with 2nd generation Nikon CoolPix 950 digital camera in 2000), but there are terms and some notations that I would dearly love to understand better.  Modern engineers have not been able to help.  I have not been able to clean up the images enough to put them on the web and ask others.  But I've already lost the battle with time. So there's no hurry and I might get back to the Archives one day with an LED flatbed scanner (they let me use a handheld one last time I was there, but it was worse than digital camera image and a LOT slower).  Then I can get much better images of the reports.  Maybe then I can learn more.

Good luck with your race against time!

Dave

Friday, October 5, 2018, 10:19:46 PM, you wrote:


Dave:

Thanks for you comments…..

One set of bound contracts came from the GA Div office in Atlanta. It sat in a bookcase, apparently unused, for years wth direct sunlight on the bindings. The silk thread used in the binding were in good shape but most of the spines were too far gone to save. Although the NC&StL contract in my example was in a bound book, most of the other volumes have been unbound. The fact that bindings were in such poor shape (in many cases) plus the impossibility of scanning their attachments made unbinding them a logical decision.)

Some will certainly disagree but our approach with the SRHA archives materials has been to organize and preserve it to be used, rather than be kept as artifacts. We recently acquired a second set of the contract books and know of a third so the decision to unbind one set was not difficult. By making a full set of scans (a big job with 1,200 agreements), copies can be sent to people doing research without having to go to Chattanooga.

One overriding issue is the fact that people that worked for, or knew, the Southern are aging. If our archives materials are not made use of in the next ten or so years, we will have a marvelous pile of paper that few people will care about.

Because we have the entire Southern Railway President’s files, there are many cases where we have both the printed contracts AND the Executive Dept files that led up to those agreements. They contain draft agreements, correspondence and internal memos on the subject. When research combines those assets with photos and drawings in the collection, we can describe important events in the history of the Southern in ways we never expected. I suggest finding a copy of TIES with the article on the collapse of the Tennessee River Bridge in Chattanooga as an example.

Ike



On Oct 5, 2018, at 9:19 PM, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:

Ike,

A good restoration librarian can unbind a bound book so it can be scanned flat and then rebound in the original manner, preserving the original and improving the digital edition. My friend at the Michigan State University archive helped with the CF&YV 1892 Prospectus that Matt Bumgarner had reproduced.

You might see if you can get someone at UT Chattanooga or other nearby archive library to see if a deal could be struck.

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Oct 5, 2018, at 6:06 PM, George Eichelberger <
geichelberger@...> wrote:


Every trackage rights or joint trackage arrangement, Union Station agreement, crossing or interchange between railroads was documented by a contract or agreement negotiated and signed by the parties. Many use essentially the same "boilerplate" language, with specific details added, multiple times. Terms and conditions for different kinds of agreements became almost standardized. That served to simplify negotiations and give everyone a basic understanding of what an agreement included. Many of the points included in the trackage rights agreement between the NC&StL, the Memphis and Charleston and the East Tennessee and Georgia dated October 1, 1880 can be found in agreements negotiated many years later. In fact, many of the the Main and Supplemental agreement conditions contained in Southern Railway contract file No.9 are still in effect between Norfolk Southern and CSX between Stevenson, AL and Wauhatchie, TN today. (NC&StL trackage was used from Wauhatchie to Chattanooga by both the M&C and what became the AGS until the Southern built its own line, through the Lookout Mtn. tunnel.) Reading past the boilerplate we find very specific details about what is covered.

The second example in the Google Drive file illustrates the kinds of maps or drawings attached to some agreements. It is from a 1948 agreement between the Southern and the NC&StL for Howell Jct in Atlanta. Here, the details are all important; which railroad was responsible for every signal, crossing and turnout, which controlled the crossing, etc. Howell i particularly interesting because of its complexity and that there were individual agreements covering the NC&StL (W&A), Seaboard and Southern. The agreement pages were scanned in bound books so they are not "pretty" but include the entire agreement. The Howell Jct. drawing was a fold out attachment that was unbound to make a high quality copy that could be published if someone wrote a "TIES" or L&NHS magazine article on the subject.

Although only a small number of agreements have been scanned completely, the SRHA archives contain approximately 1,203 different examples. The Southern accumulated and bound contracts in books that were distributed to officials through the system. When each of twenty-six (known?) books were produced, a cumulative index was added that included every agreement in force at that time. When contracts expired or were cancelled, they were omitted from the index. The index from Volume XXII issued September 1, 1945 is the third document in the Google Drive file and provides an idea of the scope of the collection. (The first number in an entry is the volume that includes the agreement, the second number is the contract number.)

Scanning contracts and attachments is an on-going task for archives volunteers.

Ike

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B-S_UsKX7JpYfl7acZZ2Zrl1_b8Mmjnw?usp=sharing



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC

moderated Whatever happened to SOU 390399?

Bill Schafer
 

We received an interesting question on the SRHA Facebook page: does anyone know what happened to SOU 390300, an Ortner rapid-discharge hopper? It was painted in a one-of-a-kind paint scheme for a little while. See attachment. What prompted this question was the recent restoration, by the North Carolina Transportation Museum, of SOU 550555, a 50' boxcar built in 1970, that was the 200,000th car outshopped by Pullman-Standard's Bessemer (Ala.) Works. 550555 was also painted in a unique scheme that lasted for at least a decade; this car's history will be featured in 2018-4 TIES, which, hopefully, will be mailed to SRHA members between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

moderated Re: Whatever happened to SOU 390399?

mclemons@...
 

Bill, I’ve just listed on Ebay a slide of SOU 550555 taken the month the car was released by Pullman-Standard.  It’s probably too late to be used with your article, but let me know if you need a scan for your file. You can view it on Ebay under my ID “birminghamrails”.

 

Best regards,

Marv

 

From: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io <main@SouthernRailway.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Schafer
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@SouthernRailway.groups.io
Subject: [SouthernRailway] Whatever happened to SOU 390399?

 

We received an interesting question on the SRHA Facebook page: does anyone know what happened to SOU 390300, an Ortner rapid-discharge hopper? It was painted in a one-of-a-kind paint scheme for a little while. See attachment. What prompted this question was the recent restoration, by the North Carolina Transportation Museum, of SOU 550555, a 50' boxcar built in 1970, that was the 200,000th car outshopped by Pullman-Standard's Bessemer (Ala.) Works. 550555 was also painted in a unique scheme that lasted for at least a decade; this car's history will be featured in 2018-4 TIES, which, hopefully, will be mailed to SRHA members between Thanksgiving and Christmas.


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