locked Pro[osed Discontinuance of Trs 21-22 Between Greensboro and Goldsboro, NC in 1953


O Fenton Wells
 

Is there a page 1?  Would love to see it
Thanks Fenton

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 12:22 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
A (perverse) benefit of having many train-off petitions and documents in the SRHA archives, is that they contain some of the best information on how trains were operated that the Southern wanted to eliminate (there were many in the post-war years).

The attached six pages* are part of a response to an internal request to document trains 21 and 22 between Greensboro and Goldsboro, NC. Although the trains were not discontinued at that time, the response provides rare information on Southern's secondary passenger services in Eastern NC.

Ike

*PS To reduce storage space on the .io group server, several "topics", mostly contain attachments or for events that have come and gone. More will be deleted as time permits. These attachments will be deleted in a few weeks.....



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Tim
 

Page one is the 5th attachment, with the title on top.

Thank you Ike, this is great.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC


George Eichelberger
 

Fenton:

There is no Page 1 per se’. The original inquiry that led to the report was responded to with a cover note and the report starting with Pg 2. Bill Schaffer thinks “Page 1” was the respondent’s cover note. I agree with that because “Page 2” begins with “when the train leaves Greensboro”.

Ike

PS The binder Marvin Black put together on discontinuing trains 21/22 (it took years and multiple attempts by the railroad) probably contains 100+ pages, mostly internal memos with some local newspaper clippings. Like many (!) things in the SRHA archives, if someone is interested enough to get to Chattanooga and look through the archives, they will find material they are personally interested in or for an article for TIES, the R&LHS, "Classic Trains" magazine or whatever.

PPS For a completely honest “Editorial” comment from the SRHA Archives Director….After multiple suggestions, there have been very few cases where anybody actually followed up and went to the archives to do research. I suppose the one or two percent of people that do make it to Chattanooga, or ask if there are alternatives, make the effort worthwhile. 

(Re: “alternatives” such as “would you send me a scan of the entire file?” are usually “DOA” unless there is a very good reason for asking, living many hundreds of miles from Chattanooga, making a significant donation to the archives or being a well known, author or expert on a subject are all examples.) (A “shout out” to the Greensboro NRHS is in order. Their folks made the effort to get to Chattanooga to gather material on a book they are producing. I think it correct to say we almost “buried” them with help and access to the collections.) 



On May 23, 2022, at 10:09 AM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Is there a page 1?  Would love to see it
Thanks Fenton

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 12:22 PM George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
A (perverse) benefit of having many train-off petitions and documents in the SRHA archives, is that they contain some of the best information on how trains were operated that the Southern wanted to eliminate (there were many in the post-war years).

The attached six pages* are part of a response to an internal request to document trains 21 and 22 between Greensboro and Goldsboro, NC. Although the trains were not discontinued at that time, the response provides rare information on Southern's secondary passenger services in Eastern NC.

Ike

*PS To reduce storage space on the .io group server, several "topics", mostly contain attachments or for events that have come and gone. More will be deleted as time permits. These attachments will be deleted in a few weeks.....




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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks I missed that
Fenton

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 11:31 AM Tim <tarumph@...> wrote:
Page one is the 5th attachment, with the title on top.

Thank you Ike, this is great.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


George Eichelberger
 

Thanks, Tim that’s appreciated.

Ike

PS Another “shout out" is needed that people may not be aware of…..

Although it has been a number of years, the folks at the South Carolina Railroad Museum (SCRM) took it upon themselves to clean out a trove of Charleston Division documents that had been sitting in Pullman “Bizet” for years, loaded and moved it to the SRHA archives. That material has resulted in TIES articles and RPM/Convention clinics on Hospital Trains out of Charleston during WWII and shipments out of the Southern owned banana pier at Charleston among others. Their effort, in addition to material already in the archives, makes the Charleston Division one of the most well documented.)



On May 23, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Tim <tarumph@...> wrote:

Page one is the 5th attachment, with the title on top.

Thank you Ike, this is great.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC