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locked NKP Car Company sides for The Tennessean
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Hi,
Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show. Very little supplemental information was provided. Did not see any info on the NKP site. Anyone know which cars were offered? TIA, Patrick
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George Eichelberger
Patrick:
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I’m reasonably sure virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM. Ike PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555.
On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi, Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show. Very little supplemental information was provided. Did not see any info on the NKP site. Anyone know which cars were offered? TIA, Patrick
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Hi Ike, Is this info open to the public? Regards, Patrick
On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:26:08 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Patrick: I’m reasonably sure virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM. Ike PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555.
On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi, Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show. Very little supplemental information was provided. Did not see any info on the NKP site. Anyone know which cars were offered? TIA, Patrick
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George Eichelberger
Patrick:
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Yes! I was “shocked” to find they even existed. Someone will make good use of them…and the data on the cars in the SRHA archives…. I already have the PSC sets and several of the NKP kits or I would have bought them on the spot. I think (!) the price was about $1,200. Ike
On Aug 30, 2022, at 10:33 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi Ike, Is this info open to the public? Regards, Patrick
On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:26:08 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Patrick: I’m reasonably sure virtually EVERY piece of information on the Southerner and Tennessean, including specs. and drawings is in the SRHA archives at TVRM. Ike PS I stopped by Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, KY on the way to the Collinsville RPM. Bill Harris showed me a complete set of the Tennessean (Southerner?) NKP kits. If anyone is interested, contact Bill at (270) 994-2555. On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote: Hi, Many years ago, I obtained five NKP kits for The Tennessean at a local show. Very little supplemental information was provided. Did not see any info on the NKP site. Anyone know which cars were offered? TIA, Patrick
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Kevin Kell
Patrick:
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The July-August 1991 issue of the Ties was devoted to the SOUTHERNERand the TENNESSEAN, and provides some good information as a starting point for modeling. Regards,
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Thanks Kevin, Was simply looking for the NKP Car Company information on those kits. Were they only offered to your organization or were they available to anyone? What cars were available, what was included in the kits and what did they cost? At this point in time, I don't need any factual construction/prototypical info, unless it is available online to the public (ie, no membership required). Can't see traveling to TVRM, whatever that is. Thanks, Patrick
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022, 08:19:05 AM EDT, Kevin Kell <kkell11@...> wrote:
Patrick: The July-August 1991 issue of the Ties was devoted to the SOUTHERNERand the TENNESSEAN, and provides some good information as a starting point for modeling. Regards,
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Kevin Kell
Patrick: The website that I have record of is NKPCARCO.com. It is still live, but has not been updated in a while. Kevin
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 07:41:31 AM CDT, Patrick Howle via groups.io <iggi.geo@...> wrote:
Thanks Kevin, Was simply looking for the NKP Car Company information on those kits. Were they only offered to your organization or were they available to anyone? What cars were available, what was included in the kits and what did they cost? At this point in time, I don't need any factual construction/prototypical info, unless it is available online to the public (ie, no membership required). Can't see traveling to TVRM, whatever that is. Thanks, Patrick
On Wednesday, August 31, 2022, 08:19:05 AM EDT, Kevin Kell <kkell11@...> wrote:
Patrick: The July-August 1991 issue of the Ties was devoted to the SOUTHERNERand the TENNESSEAN, and provides some good information as a starting point for modeling. Regards,
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I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
-- David Bott
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C J Wyatt
The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
-- David Bott
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George Eichelberger
Jack:
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Per my earlier post, a complete train would cost about $1,200. Bill Harris at Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, (270) 994-2555, has one or two sets (?) available. Ike PS None of the cars on the list below are for either train, the Tennessean and Southerner cars for the 1941 trains were built by P-S . (The Tennessean ran shadow-lined painted HWT Pullmans behind the flat-end obs, the Southerner was coach only.) The only consist changes I have seen during the war was one car from the Memphis train was moved to the New Orleans train for wartime traffic after it was determined a single E-6 could keep the Southerner’s schedule with an eight car train.
On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:59 AM, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote: The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
-- David Bott
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C J Wyatt
Thanks Ike. Not a bad price for brass. Jack
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:33:48 PM EDT, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:
Jack: Per my earlier post, a complete train would cost about $1,200. Bill Harris at Classic Trains & Ferraris in Paducah, (270) 994-2555, has one or two sets (?) available. Ike PS None of the cars on the list below are for either train, the Tennessean and Southerner cars for the 1941 trains were built by P-S . (The Tennessean ran shadow-lined painted HWT Pullmans behind the flat-end obs, the Southerner was coach only.) The only consist changes I have seen during the war was one car from the Memphis train was moved to the New Orleans train for wartime traffic after it was determined a single E-6 could keep the Southerner’s schedule with an eight car train.
On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:59 AM, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote: The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
-- David Bott
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Hi Jack, Thanks for the time line. Were there also specific Crescent cars? Thanks, Patrick
On Thursday, September 1, 2022, 11:59:35 AM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
The cars offered for The Tennessean / The Southerner have long been dropped from the NKP website. If I recall the cars were offered around 25 years ago and I think included everything in the train. I seem to remember the original owner of NKP telling me that he screwed up and missed the top rib. Maybe someone can confirm. If Patrick is interested in putting together a whole train, I would suggest selling the NKP sides and going the Union Station Products route (I hate to think what a PSC train would sell for if you could find one). Jack Wyatt
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 08:04:11 AM EDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
I found this info on the website. Perhaps all Patrick needs to know is which are for The Tennessean?
-- David Bott
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I’m in the process of building the Southerner using Union Station products. So far, I’ve only done dining car Virginia.
 -- Doug Alexander Atlanta
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Looks good Doug, can't wait to see the total train Fenton
On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 10:47 AM Doug Alexander <doug_alexander@...> wrote: I’m in the process of building the Southerner using Union Station products. So far, I’ve only done dining car Virginia. --
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