locked Southern Railway divisions


Michael Shirey
 

What divisions did Southern Railway operate up until 1982? I had a list of Divisions here somewhere and I can't find them. I need someone to remind me of what there was before NS. Thanks...


Cohen Bob
 

I can tell you that the old Norfolk Division was combined in the Richmond Division in 1932 and that Danville-Washington-Richmond divisions that had been separate were combined into the Eastern Division 1965-1968 after going by the 3 former named divisions about 1965. Since the 1970s and 80s lots more changes have occurred.

That's all I can recall.

Bob Cohen


John
 

Division with HQ location in ().   
Eastern (Greensboro)
Piedmont (Greenville)
Carolina (Asheville)
Georgia (Atlanta)
Coastal (Macon)
Alabama (Birmingham)
Tennessee (Knoxville)
Kentucky (Somerset)
Western (Louisville)
Crescent (Hattiesburg)
Appalachia (Andover)


Steve Ellis
 

It would seem that Piedmont would fit Greensboro better and Eastern would fit Greenville better.


On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:27 PM, John via groups.io <jcurtrig@...> wrote:

Division with HQ location in ().   
Eastern (Greensboro)
Piedmont (Greenville)
Carolina (Asheville)
Georgia (Atlanta)
Coastal (Macon)
Alabama (Birmingham)
Tennessee (Knoxville)
Kentucky (Somerset)
Western (Louisville)
Crescent (Hattiesburg)
Appalachia (Andover)


Tim
 

That's Greenville, SC. Piedmont Division main line was Salisbury to Atlanta, so Greenville was near the center. Eastern Division, on the main line, was Salisbury to Pot Yard. Of course, both divisions included other lines.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC (on the former Carolina Division SB line, Marion, NC to Kingville, SC)


Steve Ellis
 

Well, Greenville South Carolina is definitely in the Piedmont. I thought they met Greenville North Carolina which is quite far east in the Atlantic coastal plain.


On Feb 10, 2022, at 1:09 PM, Tim <tarumph@...> wrote:

That's Greenville, SC. Piedmont Division main line was Salisbury to Atlanta, so Greenville was near the center. Eastern Division, on the main line, was Salisbury to Pot Yard. Of course, both divisions included other lines.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC (on the former Carolina Division SB line, Marion, NC to Kingville, SC)


Kyle Shannon
 

It definitely depends on the timeframe you are talking about. Division names and lines changed over time. These are best reflected in the employee time tables from the eras. Earlier on, most divisions were named for one of the primary cities along the primary line for that division.

For a long time, Greenville SC would have been considered part of the Charlotte Division for the mainline, but also with a line that was part of the Columbia Division. 

Lots of major cities did not belong to any particular division, but rather the lines within did. Chattanooga for example had the Knoxville, Atlanta, CNO&TP, and AGS, as well as the Chattanooga Terminal.

Kyle



On Thursday, February 10, 2022, 1:14 PM, Steve Ellis via groups.io <meadowbrookdairy@...> wrote:

Well, Greenville South Carolina is definitely in the Piedmont. I thought they met Greenville North Carolina which is quite far east in the Atlantic coastal plain.


On Feb 10, 2022, at 1:09 PM, Tim <tarumph@...> wrote:

That's Greenville, SC. Piedmont Division main line was Salisbury to Atlanta, so Greenville was near the center. Eastern Division, on the main line, was Salisbury to Pot Yard. Of course, both divisions included other lines.

Tim Rumph
Lancaster, SC (on the former Carolina Division SB line, Marion, NC to Kingville, SC)


Bill Schafer
 

Division with HQ location in ().   
Eastern (Greensboro)
Piedmont (Greenville)
Carolina (Asheville)
Georgia (Atlanta)
Coastal (Macon)
Alabama (Birmingham)
Tennessee (Knoxville)
Kentucky (Somerset)
Western (Louisville)
Crescent (Hattiesburg)
Appalachia (Andover)

I think these were the divisions as of the Norfolk Southern merger in June 1982. All divisions were given new names in 1968 - a change from some of the cumbersome titles that resulted from the wholesale division consolidation that occurred in 1964 (“Eastern” is much better than “Danville—Washington-Richmond” and “Carolina” is an improvement on “Asheville-Charleston-Winston Salem). 

—Bill